http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/photo-biz/1212353-budget-photographer-needed-event.html
show your honest views here.
show your honest views here.
IMHO, I think should not allow the faithopejoy Jolene Ng girl and her cronies to open a low balling thread, stir a lot of emotions, then she posing her lame sick reasons and closing her own thread before other members can reply to that thread.
But I trust the good judgement of the admin and mods here if the thread need to stay closed. Anyway...
Photo hobby is popular, I am sure they can find there own friends to do it if they are really poor and low income people (though I know many poor and low income people still have the dignity and mutual respect for people of other profession), but instead they choose to hunt for a Goon Doo here. And that is shameful.
Maybe that day will drop by to see which OCS and which photographer shooting. Ok joke, where got time.
Maybe should see what her clients are impressed about regarding her work. Opps, her website is down.
Yea, noticed that she puts herself out as a photography service provider with a quick google. So she is actually farming out low-paying jobs and using CS as her hunting ground? wow.
A bit sad to see fellow photographer earning $100 for 4 hours of work, some more at after office hour.
Hope that he is not doing it for a living.
For those who are earning $6000 per month, he can earn this money just by sitting in office for less than 3 hours.
For those who earning $1800 per month, it is more than his one day of salary.
For hourly paid staff earning $6.00 per hour, he needs to work 17 hours instead of 4.
For students, $100 is good income for extra pocket money.
It's a matter of different perspective.
If i am a student, i am happy to get the $100.00.
If have have a family to support, i will think $100.00 is peanut to me and might as well use the time to have a family outing.
There is no right or wrong. Only willing parties.
We can claim that you pay peanut then you will get monkey, but what if TS is ok to get monkey.
To some, it is a career, but to some, it is hobby.
If i am a student and i love magic trick as a hobby, and people pay me $100.00 to perform in a street magic performance, i am more than happy.
However, if i am a professional magician and i charge thousands for a show, then i will see $100 as peanut.
So who's in the wrong? No one is in the wrong.
We cannot expect to bring all photographers and judge them as if everyone is on the same level because we are not.
Your are right, we are not all on the same level so why gave those examples which its totally not the same comparison. So don't try to generalize this situation.
For an event shoot, you will firstly need a decent camera/DSLR body which cost min. $1k or $30 if you are renting, unless you are someone famous guy who can shoot with a pns or iphone I don't care.
For shooting with a camera body, of course you will need a lens which cost min. $100 (cheap 2nd-hand kit lens) or maybe $20 (renting).
For shooting a low-light event, you will definitely need a decent flash which cost min. $200 or $20 (renting).
For all to happens, you will need memory cards which ranges from $20 onwards for a 8gb.
Forget about owning these equipments and just for renting cost alone, it all add up to min. $100 (not including transportation of getting/returning equipments, to location etc).
Oh not forgetting some cheapos client wants some basic processing thus adding computers, editing time blah blah blah...
So let me ask you, any goondus here still thinks there's nothing wrong with that pathetic rates? We should just stood by and watch this exploitation takes place because of your "willing parties" crap theories??
Hope it is not a case of exploiting other photographers who are willing to work for a very cheap rate.
The TS mentioned that she is looking for a photographer on behalf of a friend.
But TS herself is offering photography service in CS forum at "very affordable price".
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/photo-biz/1212353-budget-photographer-needed-event.html
show your honest views here.
In business, you do your business with your head and not your emotion. If people want to charge cheap, let them. It is really none of your or my business.
In business, you can either do it honestly and make an honest living, or you could choose to stretch the truth and cover your conscience as long as it makes money. Either way, it works as business. Just find one that fit your own personality.
We know charging low isn't the way for photographers who is looking stay in the business, I would find it a lot more productive if people give suggestion to remidiate the issue rather then bitching about it. Thing won't get better if we continue to bitch about low budget.
Regards,
Hart
Exposure said:well... do let the requester know this, it will be like taking budget airlines, don't expect for the same things found in Singapore Airlines.
Just out of curiosity. When the pro were just starting out their photo biz. When they are still nobody, not much portfolio. How do they start? How much will they charge? Cos if a "nobody" photographer come with small portfolio or even with a very good portfolio (cos not sure if his own works). I will also think twice when he trying to charge a pro pricing. esp when Google him and nothing come out. I would rather use that money to pay a real pro to do the job.