Want to Borrow: EF 14mm f/2.8L and/or EOS-1Ds
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please let me clarify.
for what sehsuan is doing, he is not paid. for what he is shooting, he's the ONLY person shooting. yes sometimes another person might join him, but that person more or less will be using the same limited equipment. so nobody else will get the same images as sehsuan will get. that's all. lending him your equipment might make him happy with his images, it might not, but at least he tried.
as for moving forward or backward, unfortunately that place doesn't allow it.
as for saying volunteering for an event without the proper equipment - i thought there were discussions on like you know, photogs aren't limited by their equipment blah blah blah.. only their "eye".. "willingness"... well, this is the first time anybody is shooting from that location. no photog has been allowed access there before so since it's the first time, give this guy some credit.
and yes sehsuan there's always a 12-24 and a 15 fish to look at. as mentioned thru pm, take 12-24 though. superwide, you might be happy. though i don't really know exactly what you mean.
you could take panoramic also.. stitch a few images. should be okay. an xpan with 35mm lens won't work because FOV is same as max angle of 16mm. 16, 17mm.. sama sama.
for what sehsuan is doing, he is not paid. for what he is shooting, he's the ONLY person shooting. yes sometimes another person might join him, but that person more or less will be using the same limited equipment. so nobody else will get the same images as sehsuan will get. that's all. lending him your equipment might make him happy with his images, it might not, but at least he tried.
as for moving forward or backward, unfortunately that place doesn't allow it.
as for saying volunteering for an event without the proper equipment - i thought there were discussions on like you know, photogs aren't limited by their equipment blah blah blah.. only their "eye".. "willingness"... well, this is the first time anybody is shooting from that location. no photog has been allowed access there before so since it's the first time, give this guy some credit.
and yes sehsuan there's always a 12-24 and a 15 fish to look at. as mentioned thru pm, take 12-24 though. superwide, you might be happy. though i don't really know exactly what you mean.
you could take panoramic also.. stitch a few images. should be okay. an xpan with 35mm lens won't work because FOV is same as max angle of 16mm. 16, 17mm.. sama sama.
thanks to sequitur, jbma, dkw and many others for the highly constructive posts. especially sequitur for his clarification. 
indeed, i'm looking at a big WIDE scene especially for those fireworks + field performers + gallery shots. i'm dreaming big, but at least i dare to dream. roygoh, you have a point about stitching, but it's next to impossible to stitch up a dynamic background, along with changing lightings etc.. 
stylus c34, i don't know who you are, what got into you, but from my memory of your posts, you seem to have this discriminatory feel about your message when you address it to me. come on. animosity here isn't going to help. if you want to help, of course i'd be VERY happy. if you don't want to help, there's no obligation. but surely you need not have a condescending manner in the reply hinting about volunteering for a job without the right equipment. i'm making the best of what i have access right now to, but i would seriously like to borrow the tools to create the visual image. our equipment are personal (yes, all ndp photogs are using personal gear, in case you didn't know), and sometimes we do scratch each others' backs as well, and in my case, i'm one of the smaller framed chaps who can tahan carry some camera load to the roof and shoot. it's just like i'm chosen for this particular shoot, and i gladly embrace it - but i'm trying to make the most out of it.
i'm serving the best part of my NS ever, and i am honored to be able to contribute in what i enjoy - if i manage to pull a good picture - hey, at least it's not me who enjoys that view of the stadium. clive, as for helicopter shooting, there's some other issues that must be resolved, you can find out more from those who have done aerial photography. also, there's no one else to elbow with up there, otherwise you'd be seeing a lot of Ethan Hawkes' doing the Mission Impossible wire-dangling act... :bsmilie:
sequitur, i cannot confirm it myself, i don't thinnk this is the first time someone is shooting from there, but at least for the past two years, no one was allowed roof access to shoot. one slight technicality - shooting from the top of the roof area is a little "resonant" because when the speakers go "boom boom boom"... :sweat: nah, but actually it ain't that scary. just that shooting may suffer from a little uncontrollable Image Destabilization :bsmilie:
indeed, i'm looking at a big WIDE scene especially for those fireworks + field performers + gallery shots. i'm dreaming big, but at least i dare to dream. roygoh, you have a point about stitching, but it's next to impossible to stitch up a dynamic background, along with changing lightings etc.. stylus c34, i don't know who you are, what got into you, but from my memory of your posts, you seem to have this discriminatory feel about your message when you address it to me. come on. animosity here isn't going to help. if you want to help, of course i'd be VERY happy. if you don't want to help, there's no obligation. but surely you need not have a condescending manner in the reply hinting about volunteering for a job without the right equipment. i'm making the best of what i have access right now to, but i would seriously like to borrow the tools to create the visual image. our equipment are personal (yes, all ndp photogs are using personal gear, in case you didn't know), and sometimes we do scratch each others' backs as well, and in my case, i'm one of the smaller framed chaps who can tahan carry some camera load to the roof and shoot. it's just like i'm chosen for this particular shoot, and i gladly embrace it - but i'm trying to make the most out of it.
i'm serving the best part of my NS ever, and i am honored to be able to contribute in what i enjoy - if i manage to pull a good picture - hey, at least it's not me who enjoys that view of the stadium. clive, as for helicopter shooting, there's some other issues that must be resolved, you can find out more from those who have done aerial photography. also, there's no one else to elbow with up there, otherwise you'd be seeing a lot of Ethan Hawkes' doing the Mission Impossible wire-dangling act... :bsmilie:
sequitur, i cannot confirm it myself, i don't thinnk this is the first time someone is shooting from there, but at least for the past two years, no one was allowed roof access to shoot. one slight technicality - shooting from the top of the roof area is a little "resonant" because when the speakers go "boom boom boom"... :sweat: nah, but actually it ain't that scary. just that shooting may suffer from a little uncontrollable Image Destabilization :bsmilie:
i suggest getting someone to bring up another tripod, mount two 10D cams side by side with 17mm (i'm sure you know how to get hold of the other 10D cam with a tokina) get two cable releases compose everything and then fire off auto. you get a nearly 12 megapixels image. throw in multiple 10D cams for multiple megapixels. heh.
i think it's a feasible idea. you get more than 17mm and you get a panorama. maciam like xpan on digital steriods.
i think it's a feasible idea. you get more than 17mm and you get a panorama. maciam like xpan on digital steriods.
i think somebody has done that before...a fireworks + performers + surroundings shot, from last year if i'm not wrong; there were this downloadable wallpapers from the website last year and they had such a picture and if i'm not wrong it still has its EXIF tag on it maybe u can see how they did that one? haha.
and there's this very wonderful photo from 2002 i've seen before, also of fireworks + spectators, done with this unusual, almost-3d toning.
upzzz for u sehsuan. have fun shooting
and there's this very wonderful photo from 2002 i've seen before, also of fireworks + spectators, done with this unusual, almost-3d toning.
upzzz for u sehsuan. have fun shooting
Hi sehsuan
Since you just plan to loan the lens (for free), there is no harm in trying the Sigma 14mm or 12-24mm.. Sticking to canon is good if you wanna buy it..
btw somebody was selling a Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fisheye on offstone, check Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fisheye ..
I have a sigma 14mm f/2.8.. if you want to try, I can loan it to you.. But you need to tell me when do you want it.. To be frank, you can collect it from me on the day you want to use it and return the same day.. Sorry but I use the lens and can't let it go out of my sight for too long..
cheers
Since you just plan to loan the lens (for free), there is no harm in trying the Sigma 14mm or 12-24mm.. Sticking to canon is good if you wanna buy it..
btw somebody was selling a Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fisheye on offstone, check Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 fisheye ..
I have a sigma 14mm f/2.8.. if you want to try, I can loan it to you.. But you need to tell me when do you want it.. To be frank, you can collect it from me on the day you want to use it and return the same day.. Sorry but I use the lens and can't let it go out of my sight for too long..
cheers
sehsuan, sounds like you are asking for the best equipment to try out a massive task you still quite unsure of. Seriously, you may want to consider other alternatives like using non-canon, and doing bracketing on a film body. I do appreciate your "courage" to at least try to ask for the sky, but to accomplish your task you may want to ask for less.
pardon me but you've always come across as an "equipment" person to me. A huge white lens never fails to impress you. Still remember the time when you blamed your 4040z for taking bad pictures. Look beyond the equipment...if you can achieve more with less, you will certainly feel more proud of yourself.
Good luck for your quest...can't help you out as I'm currently using more lowly stuffs than what you have. Cheers!
pardon me but you've always come across as an "equipment" person to me. A huge white lens never fails to impress you. Still remember the time when you blamed your 4040z for taking bad pictures. Look beyond the equipment...if you can achieve more with less, you will certainly feel more proud of yourself.
Good luck for your quest...can't help you out as I'm currently using more lowly stuffs than what you have. Cheers!
Tweek, indeed I may have criticized the 4040 then for not getting the shots I would have wanted, but that's in the past. Why are you holding on to the past when it's not relevant to this task I have at hand? I don't mind non-Canon's really.
akdwivedi, thanks for the offer, but I think it's best you keep the lens for yourself, since you're using it that much. My work day starts about 830am onwards, stretching to 11+pm. I don't think you can stay awake for me to return the lens...
fw007, 3d toning? what's that? i haven't been digging through the site for photos... :embrass:
sequitur, bring tripods? kenna one tripod decide to do a diving act, then i will d-i-e... :bsmilie:
akdwivedi, thanks for the offer, but I think it's best you keep the lens for yourself, since you're using it that much. My work day starts about 830am onwards, stretching to 11+pm. I don't think you can stay awake for me to return the lens...
fw007, 3d toning? what's that? i haven't been digging through the site for photos... :embrass:
sequitur, bring tripods? kenna one tripod decide to do a diving act, then i will d-i-e... :bsmilie:
sehsuan said:i'm looking at a big WIDE scene especially for those fireworks + field performers + gallery shots. i'm dreaming big, but at least i dare to dream. roygoh, you have a point about stitching, but it's next to impossible to stitch up a dynamic background, along with changing lightings etc..
Well, not sure if you dare to try, may be just in case you can't get hold of a 1Ds + 14mm, consider stitching and stacking. It can be done depends how you want to do it and if u want to spend the time to do it.
I thought of borrowing a 1Ds from someone that i know and even offered to pay him a deposit. But in the end never because if something bad happened to the camera, i don't have so much money to pay him back and how am i going to compensate his loss when he got no camera to use for his assignment?
In the end I took 4 separate photo to do stitching, one for background, 3 for the people inside.
Final resolution was 7111 x 2844, they send it to print into a 12 feet long banner and they were happy with the final output, there were 100+ pple inside and all their faces are clearly shown
If you want to capture fireworks, may be can consider stacking, cos if u want to use long shutter speed, the field will probably completely washed-out, so u can consider taking the field and firework separately
A stack of 3 frames, one for firework, one for background and one for merlion. My PS skills sucks, but I am just trying to make full use of what I have to overcome the limitation
sehsuan,
do proper tripod placement so they won't dive forward. standard placement is the same for all tripods, two legs behind one leg in front.
secure the camera and tripod together and secure the tripod to a form of support so if it dives, hardly anyone will notice and nobody will get hurt. anyway it's not that hard for a tripod to dive unless you knock it. just don't knock it. i'm more likely to knock it if i'm there coz i got phobia.
just secure and it should be okay.
do proper tripod placement so they won't dive forward. standard placement is the same for all tripods, two legs behind one leg in front.
secure the camera and tripod together and secure the tripod to a form of support so if it dives, hardly anyone will notice and nobody will get hurt. anyway it's not that hard for a tripod to dive unless you knock it. just don't knock it. i'm more likely to knock it if i'm there coz i got phobia.
just secure and it should be okay.
ok this has gone on far enough. i'm closing this thread cos it's certainly gone way OT. sehsuan, if you have issue with this and wanna re-open this thread, you know how to get me. in addition, i'd suggest you check with your "boss" about asking for the loan of such equipment - you're not shooting in a personal capacity and such actions reflect on the organization you represent.
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