Wait for D800 or buy D700 now
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bethpapa74
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the longer you wait, ...
1) price for d700 is gradually stepping up
2) prob your chances of obtaining a copy of ''made in Japan'' d700 is slimmer
Not to mention chances of a Made in China / Malaysia / Mexico D800 that costs more than the D700 being higher as well.
When the D3s came to market, D3 prices didn't fall. When the D3x came to market, D3s prices didnt fall either. When D700 came to market, D3 prices still held on. When the D7000 was released, I don't recall D90 prices plunging either.
When the D3s came to market, D3 prices didn't fall. When the D3x came to market, D3s prices didnt fall either. When D700 came to market, D3 prices still held on. When the D7000 was released, I don't recall D90 prices plunging either.
The price of the camera do drops gradually actually. Street price & BnS that is. I haven't been fortunate enough to witness a change of command in the top tier pro body yet, but I do see a drop in price when D3100 replacing D3000. Even the major store madly pushing this model out during the impending replacement period. It is happening now for D5000.
Not the same argument. The D3s did not repose the D3, and the D3x didn't replace either. Neither did D700 replace the D3
Likewise, the 7000 was not a replacement for the 90. But the 90 was a replacement for 80, which was the replacement for the 70
On the other hand, the 3100 was slated to replace the 3000 and the 5100 was created to replace the 5000.
No one can say that the 800 replaces the 700, but my guess is that 800 will be to 700 in the same way that d3x is to d3s
Likewise, the 7000 was not a replacement for the 90. But the 90 was a replacement for 80, which was the replacement for the 70
On the other hand, the 3100 was slated to replace the 3000 and the 5100 was created to replace the 5000.
No one can say that the 800 replaces the 700, but my guess is that 800 will be to 700 in the same way that d3x is to d3s
bethpapa74
Senior Member
The introduction of d7000 is kinda of confusing ... it is not suppose to replace d90, and it stood slightly in between d300s and d90.
I think d7000 was introduced to TOP the 'thousand' models like d3100, d5100.
I think d7000 was introduced to TOP the 'thousand' models like d3100, d5100.
Sgdevilzz
Senior Member
The D7000 was meant to be the higher end of a D90. Just like last time, D90 stood in between the D200 and D80.
Exactly. Many shops were claiming the D7000 as the D90's sucessor, but that was speculation. If anything, the D90 still shines as a [relatively] low-cost alternative to the D7000, which is, in turn, a slightly lower cost alternative to the D300s.
That the D7000 outperforms the D300(s) in some ways is unfortunate, but sports shooters I know still swear by the D300 for better focusing speed.
Apparently, the screw-drive motor on the D300 is similar to the one found on the D700 (i.e. fast), while the D7000's is only just slightly slower. I have neither, so I cannot comment from experience.
In any case, it is premature to speculate that the D800 will replace the D700.
That the D7000 outperforms the D300(s) in some ways is unfortunate, but sports shooters I know still swear by the D300 for better focusing speed.
Apparently, the screw-drive motor on the D300 is similar to the one found on the D700 (i.e. fast), while the D7000's is only just slightly slower. I have neither, so I cannot comment from experience.
In any case, it is premature to speculate that the D800 will replace the D700.
hamasakilee
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Just get my d700 from JB/ Angsana/ Mee Too, at RM6k, about SGD2.5k.
But it is last two pieces at MEE TOO, and berlian also claim that they only left 1pc of D700, which is Feb shipment.
Mar JP kena 311 earthquake/ tsunami, so they also have no idea when will next batch of shipment coming...
But it is last two pieces at MEE TOO, and berlian also claim that they only left 1pc of D700, which is Feb shipment.
Mar JP kena 311 earthquake/ tsunami, so they also have no idea when will next batch of shipment coming...
According to my friend who own a shop at KL,
he said the rumour of price going up is FAKE,
it is just those heartless shop owner wish to earn more,
that's where the rumour came out.
That's what I thought too. I'm hearing from friends in the US now that certain lenses and bodies are currently out of stock at the usual retailers. It may not be so much that Nikon itself has raised prices, but as was (and still is) the case with the X100, dealers were selling them online for much more than RRP - simple laws of demand and supply.
Bottom line - either buy or don't buy, there's someone out there prepared to pay the asking price. That's life.
Bottom line - either buy or don't buy, there's someone out there prepared to pay the asking price. That's life.
kentwong81
Senior Member
The law of Demand & Supply. The consumers can choose not to buy if they can't afford or the price is not reasonable. The market will correct itself in the end. It's out of our reach to manipulate and influence the market prices. So no point to worry too much. Better work harder and hope for more salary increment and bonus from your employer, then you can buy whatever camera and lenses without worrying the price jump.
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szeping
Senior Member
"like" +1
In fact I'm already very impressed with the high ISO performance for D700. So the next big thing to expect (for me) on the successor would be similar performance as D3s and better video function.
I shoot events the most, and think that even though a good sensor can deliver a clean image under very very dim lighting, the color rendition wouldn't be pleasant for me
So I still prefer some fill in flash to give me better colors, thus I can also do it in lower ISO.But not for sports photography, where higher ISO = even faster shutter speed or DOF under proper lighting.
Just my 2 cents ~
oh btw, I just got my D700 recently
In the past before the days of D5000, D7000, and 7D, there was sort of a misalignment in terms of competition between Nikon and Canon.
Canon's 40/50D feature set sits in between Nikon's D300 and D90.
Canon's 500/550D feature set sits in between Nikon's D90 and D60
Canon's 1000D sits very slightly below Nikon's D60.
This is evident in the features offered, as well as the price they are offered at. But then, as we all know, people are kind of funny. They like to compare, and make direct 1 to 1 comparisons. This makes some models look bad or good depending on how it was worded. Eg. D90 is so much more ex than the 550D! D90 is not as good as a 50D! 50D cannot touch the D300 in performance! etc etc and the list goes on.
So Nikon released the D5000 to address the upper entry level gap to go head to head with the Canon 550D. The D60 is repackaged and launched as D3000 to go head to head with 1000D. Canon on the other hand, launched the 7D to go head to head with the D300s. I believe that Nikon's launch of D7000 is to go head on against the 50D. However, it is just surprising that Canon decided to dumb down the 60D by removing features like mag alloy body and AF fine-tune, I think probably in fear that it will cannibalize the market for the 7D. This made the D7000 so much more attractive in specs and features than the 60D now. However, there is definitely some cannibalization of D300s' market. I believe that Nikon is not too concerned about that, since the D300 series product lines are nearing the end of their life cycle.
So in the end, it is just a re-alignment of the product mix for both companies.
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MacroMarlin
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...yeah....waiting for some good local shooters to be the lab mice to try out the D800, before comparing and deciding on the D700 or D800......:bsmilie:
.....other than a general guide and points for observation, those online 'professional reviews' hold very low weightage to my decision, coz...it will be highly unlikely that I will shoot in their kind of environment.
.....other than a general guide and points for observation, those online 'professional reviews' hold very low weightage to my decision, coz...it will be highly unlikely that I will shoot in their kind of environment.
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Actururss said:
MacroMarlin said:
Actually, the moment I saw them controlling the D4 thr mobile devices, I feel it will attract a lot of geeks (rich ones of cos) wanna piece of action with this thing. It's like a geek magnet for they can say, "hey, I can control my camera across the room with my iPad, can you?"
My guts feel tells me that local camera rental will likely stock this camera along with the wireless WT5A unit to satisfy this market.
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