Thaipusam 2011 and recommended film speed

[Royale With Cheese]

wow... good that Thaipusam is coming again. I remembered it was the event that finally tied up most of the RF users in SG back then :bsmilie:

ah......

The night when RF cameras where overpowering DSLRs at the Tank Road temple!!!!! :thumbsup:

Yes, M6 users were crying because of flare :sticktong

btw, I think Fotohub is only able to push 1 1/2 stops these days with the new machine. So Provia 400x will take you to asa1250

 

[ZoomP]

hey, i expose the film at 1600 doesnt mean the lab will push for me. So, i have to ask the lab to "push 2 stops" to 1600 else they will process it at 400iso by default Maximum push for slide is 2stops..



cool m an. thanks for the info. I will check it out.. but if its on a weekday.. abit hard for all to turn up

Thought Fotohub can only push 1.5 stops on slides these days. Take note guys and better confirm with them. The last time I did it, I was only able to do 1.5 stops.

I remembered last year Thaipusam was the first time I met Meven and some of the other guys. It's also the start of my friendship with Wongsan.

 

[hookonclassic]

Thought Fotohub can only push 1.5 stops on slides these days. Take note guys and better confirm with them. The last time I did it, I was only able to do 1.5 stops.

I remembered last year Thaipusam was the first time I met Meven and some of the other guys. It's also the start of my friendship with Wongsan.

Correct. Fotohub can only push 1.5 stop due to their machine limitation. i.e. Provia 400F can only be push processed to ISO 1250 in Singapore.

 

[theRenaissance]

wow... good that Thaipusam is coming again. I remembered it was the event that finally tied up most of the RF users in SG back then

Surely this time round we will have overwhelmingly good response again and more RF users attending.

Anyway just to share on this amazing Provia 400X which is my fave slide of all time. It has the richest colours and is best used in the dark alley or to achieve a cinematic feel. My fave setting is to expose this film at 1600 and later push it in the lab to pump the colours up. Very fine micro details can be seen across the entire image but surely it is the colour that draws me to it... So do consider it for this Thaipusam if you are not shooting fanatically. Anyway the most you might expose is 3 rolls. If it gives you the best, why not? Just shoot sparely and you will be sure to get some wonderful cinematic pictures...

some samples:

Of course I find Iford 3200 a very appropriate film to use for Thaipusam also. Superia is nice but I find the colours to be very funny. Maybe I just prefer cooler tones and the grains... Colours with grains is not really good for me but of course this is subjective. Provia is the "cleanest" so far... "Almost digital but still renders like a film" if I have to sum it up in 1 line. Aiyo, I'm like the promoter for Provia 400. haha

This is freaking poison! Solid colours man, the mood is :devil:!

 

[meven]

Thought Fotohub can only push 1.5 stops on slides these days. Take note guys and better confirm with them. The last time I did it, I was only able to do 1.5 stops.

I remembered last year Thaipusam was the first time I met Meven and some of the other guys. It's also the start of my friendship with Wongsan.

It was indeed a great outing! It was my 2nd week in Singapore, scary how time flies!

I am also an advocate for pushed Provia 400X!

 

[gossipmonger]

was at Thaipusam 2010, and saw many familiar faces from CS's RF community as I was there from 3++ am onwards.

I'm perplexed by one thing though and I hope some of you can enlighten me - Thaipusam is a whole-day event, but why do you guys seem to prefer shooting at such an early hour? (I know some of you place mood/ambience above everything else....)

Just like the previous year, concerns about adequate film speed and fast lenses are being aired. Push development (slides) and fast film also cost more. Wouldn't it be easier (and maybe cheaper) to shoot during the day - use of slow-to-medium speed film would probably still give you the option of shooting wide open...?

I wont be shooting Thaipusam this year (got ICT that week), but given a choice I'd probably shoot it from 6am to about 10am...for the transition from dark to light.


on a side note is anyone aware of this?

Thaipusam 2011 Guidelines

I know it's a work day and the HDB inhabitants near the temple can have a good night's sleep, but what is Thaipusam without the really shiok and intoxicating drum beat??!

 

[hydroburn249]

was at Thaipusam 2010, and saw many familiar faces from CS's RF community as I was there from 3++ am onwards.

I'm perplexed by one thing though and I hope some of you can enlighten me - Thaipusam is a whole-day event, but why do you guys seem to prefer shooting at such an early hour? (I know some of you place mood/ambience above everything else....)

Just like the previous year, concerns about adequate film speed and fast lenses are being aired. Push development (slides) and fast film also cost more. Wouldn't it be easier (and maybe cheaper) to shoot during the day - use of slow-to-medium speed film would probably still give you the option of shooting wide open...?

I wont be shooting Thaipusam this year (got ICT that week), but given a choice I'd probably shoot it from 6am to about 10am...for the transition from dark to light.


on a side note is anyone aware of this?

Thaipusam 2011 Guidelines

I know it's a work day and the HDB inhabitants near the temple can have a good night's sleep, but what is Thaipusam without the really shiok and intoxicating drum beat??!

personally for me, i dont have transport, so the only option is to take the last train down, and camp there till the first train/bus. and then head to class which starts at 10am for me that day.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

was at Thaipusam 2010, and saw many familiar faces from CS's RF community as I was there from 3++ am onwards.

I'm perplexed by one thing though and I hope some of you can enlighten me - Thaipusam is a whole-day event, but why do you guys seem to prefer shooting at such an early hour? (I know some of you place mood/ambience above everything else....)

Just like the previous year, concerns about adequate film speed and fast lenses are being aired. Push development (slides) and fast film also cost more. Wouldn't it be easier (and maybe cheaper) to shoot during the day - use of slow-to-medium speed film would probably still give you the option of shooting wide open...?

I wont be shooting Thaipusam this year (got ICT that week), but given a choice I'd probably shoot it from 6am to about 10am...for the transition from dark to light.


on a side note is anyone aware of this?

Thaipusam 2011 Guidelines

I know it's a work day and the HDB inhabitants near the temple can have a good night's sleep, but what is Thaipusam without the really shiok and intoxicating drum beat??!

Oh well, my take would be that it is cooling, there is no sun.

& yes, most people would shoot in the day, by shooting in low light in the wee hours of the morning, we can "different" pictures from the norm crowd in the afternoon.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

on a side note is anyone aware of this?

Thaipusam 2011 Guidelines

I know it's a work day and the HDB inhabitants near the temple can have a good night's sleep, but what is Thaipusam without the really shiok and intoxicating drum beat??!

I keep comments on political stuff to myself but all I can say is vote wisely :angel:

 

[Cactus jACK]

on a side note is anyone aware of this?

Thaipusam 2011 Guidelines

I know it's a work day and the HDB inhabitants near the temple can have a good night's sleep, but what is Thaipusam without the really shiok and intoxicating drum beat??!

I'm not sure of the purpose of this post. If it is to say that you prefer the procession with a "really shiok and intoxicating drum beat" - fine.

But keep politics and religion out of this forum. Thanks

 

[Cactus jACK]

I keep comments on political stuff to myself but all I can say is vote wisely :angel:

going to watch thaipusam, no need to vote anything...

understand the heritage, know what is allowed and frowned upon, bring your camera and lens, and enjoy the celebration...

 

[gossipmonger]

I'm not sure of the purpose of this post. If it is to say that you prefer the procession with a "really shiok and intoxicating drum beat" - fine.

But keep politics and religion out of this forum. Thanks

just highlighting the possibility of a much toned-down Thaipusam 2011, compared to the previous years, if the guidelines are indeed enforced.

there's no sinister motive behind my post, Mod.

but yes, I do enjoy the drums....immensely.

 

[Cactus jACK]

just highlighting the possibility of a much toned-down Thaipusam 2011, compared to the previous years, if the guidelines are indeed enforced.

there's no sinister motive behind my post, Mod.

but yes, I do enjoy the drums....immensely.

that could still have been easily done without direct reference to that link and its content. thanks

 

[mudeford]

Thanks for all the images and film recommendations...very inspirational to a new RF shooter.

So, what time and where is best to start off? I'd like to try the lowlight challenge on this!

Also, I am very keen to ensure that I cause little commotion or disturbance... What advice can you guys give on things to shoot / not shoot, and of course any special things I should know about such a sensitive occasion. Given that this is in a temple and a religious festival etc.

Cheers in advance for any advice, even better if you want or are willing to meet up and help the noob along!

Mudeford

 

[ZoomP]

Thanks for all the images and film recommendations...very inspirational to a new RF shooter.

So, what time and where is best to start off? I'd like to try the lowlight challenge on this!

Also, I am very keen to ensure that I cause little commotion or disturbance... What advice can you guys give on things to shoot / not shoot, and of course any special things I should know about such a sensitive occasion. Given that this is in a temple and a religious festival etc.

Cheers in advance for any advice, even better if you want or are willing to meet up and help the noob along!

Mudeford

Bro, the temple preparation will start around 3 am if I remembered correctly. (google to confirm the info). You can go around then. Be respectful and take off your shoes (bring a plastic bag to store your slippers if u want) when you're inside the temple. The temple will be relatively crowded n they are quite used to having photographers there. Just ensure you do not get in their ways. Just shoot away and enjoy the experience.

 

[theRenaissance]

Hi guys,

I plan on using Provia 400X for the event tomorrow morning. Just wondering what will the outcome be if I rate it as 1600ASA but develop at 1250 as Fotohub only pushes 1.5 stops? Anyone with experience care to share? Will it be risky for slides?

Would appreciate lots, thank you!

 

[dankwan]

Hi guys,

I plan on using Provia 400X for the event tomorrow morning. Just wondering what will the outcome be if I rate it as 1600ASA but develop at 1250 as Fotohub only pushes 1.5 stops? Anyone with experience care to share? Will it be risky for slides?

Would appreciate lots, thank you!

it'll be quite severely under exposed bro...almost all detail will be lost and yes, at least in my experience, risky for slides....I ruined one roll of my italian trip with that same mistake....:cry: so I have absolutely no shots of the italian countryside

 

[theRenaissance]

it'll be quite severely under exposed bro...almost all detail will be lost and yes, at least in my experience, risky for slides....I ruined one roll of my italian trip with that same mistake....:cry: so I have absolutely no shots of the italian countryside

:cry: Wah I feel for you man! Okay I think I'll just stay with 1250asa. Is that the best if I intend to push to 1250? Sorry if I ask so much its gonna be my virgin experience with slides, I hope I dont get the exposures wrong, and thanks for your help sir!

 

[dankwan]

:cry: Wah I feel for you man! Okay I think I'll just stay with 1250asa. Is that the best if I intend to push to 1250? Sorry if I ask so much its gonna be my virgin experience with slides, I hope I dont get the exposures wrong, and thanks for your help sir!

youre very welcome....well my 2cts, if you can get away with ei1000 and process at ei1250 then it will give a bit more exposure to the shadows and generally come out better, if light doesnt allow, re-rate at 1250 and meter the light-medium shadows, try not to meter the lights. Remember indian skin is zone 3.5/4 as opposed to light skin at around zone 5.

Use a fast lens, f1.4 should be ok at 1/15 even 1/8 should be ok....dont drink coffee and stay away from RWC and his beer :bsmilie:

edit: oh yes, even if you shoot at 1000, still try to expose for shadows and develop for highlights (man.... I have been saying that too often lately...haha)

 

[theRenaissance]

youre very welcome....well my 2cts, if you can get away with ei1000 and process at ei1250 then it will give a bit more exposure to the shadows and generally come out better, if light doesnt allow, re-rate at 1250 and meter the light-medium shadows, try not to meter the lights. Remember indian skin is zone 3.5/4 as opposed to light skin at around zone 5.

Use a fast lens, f1.4 should be ok at 1/15 even 1/8 should be ok....dont drink coffee and stay away from RWC and his beer :bsmilie:

edit: oh yes, even if you shoot at 1000, still try to expose for shadows and develop for highlights (man.... I have been saying that too often lately...haha)

What can I say man, thank you dan for the help!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: Think I'll try out rating at 1000 first. Ooh cant wait to try it out! :lovegrin: