Some where some how some people have become very silly in their expectations.
In most camera club studio or out door shots where a low cost is charged 10 to 15 dollars normally unless you project a turnout of more than 20 -25 people do you think there is room to pay for a make up artist - chargre rates here are about $100 to $150 minimums Roughly speaking most clubs aim to break even at worst or make a little per shoot for the club fund. If you do have a crowd that is more than 2 you have another problem - keeping people happy because there is a shortage of shooting angles..... and some people never want to move once they found one even when they are not shooting.
Been there - done organsation for clubs shoots I know the problems and what can be done within the contraints. Ulitmately there are always some who have the skill to make a picture even without a perfect setup. Organiser seldom have the chance to really shoot - not if you are trying to discharge the responsibility.
It is a simple case of you pay peanuts you get monkeies. The reason for going to these shoots are they are a low cost way for you to refine your skills - until you know how to shoot properly, the best makeup or lighting man in the world can not hide your mistakes.
The current organized shoots in CS are I dunno how to say this - I think some try very hard to give value for money ( I think all of them try to make a little money from the shoots - its natural if u feel they should do for free then u should go do this for others) ; some do not give any value simply because the organisers have yet to understand how to conduct and run a shoot.
In most camera club studio or out door shots where a low cost is charged 10 to 15 dollars normally unless you project a turnout of more than 20 -25 people do you think there is room to pay for a make up artist - chargre rates here are about $100 to $150 minimums Roughly speaking most clubs aim to break even at worst or make a little per shoot for the club fund. If you do have a crowd that is more than 2 you have another problem - keeping people happy because there is a shortage of shooting angles..... and some people never want to move once they found one even when they are not shooting.
Been there - done organsation for clubs shoots I know the problems and what can be done within the contraints. Ulitmately there are always some who have the skill to make a picture even without a perfect setup. Organiser seldom have the chance to really shoot - not if you are trying to discharge the responsibility.
It is a simple case of you pay peanuts you get monkeies. The reason for going to these shoots are they are a low cost way for you to refine your skills - until you know how to shoot properly, the best makeup or lighting man in the world can not hide your mistakes.
The current organized shoots in CS are I dunno how to say this - I think some try very hard to give value for money ( I think all of them try to make a little money from the shoots - its natural if u feel they should do for free then u should go do this for others) ; some do not give any value simply because the organisers have yet to understand how to conduct and run a shoot.
