Studio Photographers Wanted for Photoshoots of LINGERIE Models.

[whiteprecision]

I have another point:

This is a rare opportunity...
Not all models are willing to have their photos taken without being paid...
The girls on my side are trying to experiment with different photographers to capture
the different sides of them...

You make it sound as if all photographers deserve to be paid without sparing a thought
for the models who commit their time for the photoshoots. Isn't it considered as free work as well?

Furthermore, we're talking about free-lance models who have ample modelling experience...
and not just any normal girl off the streets...

If you're not interested in the project, so be it.

If you look at the other threads, photographers are required to pay a sum to reserve slots to shoot the models.

I'm looking for photographers who possess a passion for photography and not
photographers who merely take photos to earn money.

Clearly, you do not suit the above-mentioned criteria. :nono:

Ok, i just have one point, if someone already owns their own studio, dont you think they dont need to expand their portfolio anymore by offering free work?

Again, CS is a fishing site for free photographers, its such a shame :cry: :thumbsd:

 

[yqt]

Ok, i just have one point, if someone already owns their own studio, dont you think they dont need to expand their portfolio anymore by offering free work?

Again, CS is a fishing site for free photographers, its such a shame :cry: :thumbsd:

I'm afraid I have to disagreed with you here. I'm a photographer and I do have my own studio. From time to time I will offer TFCD to models/talents. Working with models/talents on a TFCD basis will give me an opportunity to update my portfolio, do test shoots or simply just to brush up my model/fashion shoot without the cost of booking a model. Bear in mind that when we're shooting commercially, we don't always get to shoot our own concept. In a TFCD there is more control and leeway for the photographer to play with.

I've been in this line for many years and even some of the best in the business will offer TFCD with models.

 

[whiteprecision]

Photography is a passion... clearly you have none.

It's such a shame that MONEY is all you think about.

Pity you...

Ok, i just have one point, if someone already owns their own studio, dont you think they dont need to expand their portfolio anymore by offering free work?

Again, CS is a fishing site for free photographers, its such a shame :cry: :thumbsd:

 

[fotoudavid]

i see this a great deal.

why? it will be a great chance for photographers who can shoot, i mean can really shoot, but mostly done commercial, seldom shoot ppl, so why not take this chance.

i also hate ppl exploit free photographers things, but most on free wedding, free dnd shoot etc.

 

[fotoudavid]

Photography is a passion... clearly you have none.

It's such a shame that MONEY is all you think about.

Pity you...

Pls don't say such things here, not that nice. Each got his own thinking, wildstallion just states something which can't be really deny either.

 

[Belle&Sebastain]

Photography is a passion... clearly you have none.

It's such a shame that MONEY is all you think about.

Pity you...

Can i go into a camera shop to ask for a free camera because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i go into a photo developing shop to ask fo a free developing because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i go into a electonic shop to ask fo a free camera because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i ask singtel not to charge me inernet and phone bills bacause i feel passionate about photography?

 

[wildstallion]

Photography is a passion... clearly you have none.

It's such a shame that MONEY is all you think about.

Pity you...

Clearly you do not know me! Please do not make such comments based on one post. Money is not a concern to me in photography, I do it because I enjoy it, not so I can make a quick buck.

My post was in reference to most proffessionals with their own studio usually already have a damn good portfolio and the means to find models. I see very little benefit for a photographer here, but quite a big benefit for the models.

Next time you want to acuse me of having no passion and that I only think about money, please come and say it to my face! I can pm you my address if you would like. Frankly, your attitude appauls me. Is this how you treat everyone you meet?

 

[Tetrode]

Alright chaps on both sides of the divide, Ease up!

You both have your points and I think we understand where both sides are coming from.

What whiteprecision is offering constitutes a good deal, while what whitestallion has pointed out also has some truth to it.

However whitestallion, your post does allude to the fact that whiteprecision is trying to make get something for nothing (which I think isn't the case here).

Both photographers and the models each have something to gain from this exchange. In the case of wp's models it is photos and in the case of the photographer/s it is a free studio session with some models.

 

[terryw83]

Can i go into a camera shop to ask for a free camera because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i go into a photo developing shop to ask fo a free developing because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i go into a electonic shop to ask fo a free camera because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i ask singtel not to charge me inernet and phone bills bacause i feel passionate about photography?

well said... i think whiteprecision is too harsh with words.... wat's the problem with u man...

seriously i think u will be a damn difficult person to work with.... please open up your mindset....

 

[vbs1979]

*WHISTLE* all right guys and gals, chill out. Everyone restraint their words.
Please do not get personal.
This is a basic demand and supply theory.
If the demand meets the supply. Deal, case close.
Don't turn CS into a civil court. Cheers.

 

[wildstallion]

*WHISTLE* all right guys and gals, chill out. Everyone restraint their words.
Please do not get personal.
This is a basic demand and supply theory.
If the demand meets the supply. Deal, case close.
Don't turn CS into a civil court. Cheers.

Not Everyone, at least some people have been civil, I only see one person here who needs to 'restrain their words'

 

[simon80]

i think is quite a good deal ..
so many models to choose from the site .. MUA provided too

her mail already exploded by this time

 

[silverfrond]

whiteprecision,

if you are a model,or representing models, i think you need to have the basic curtesy when asking photographers for test shoots and TFPs.

accusing the photographers of only caring for money only shows how much double standards you have. after all, you're the one asking for a free shoot. Some of these potential photographers may have more professionalism, experience and cost more for their services than you do.

Perhaps you need to take a step back to re-evaluate your offer and your attitude while asking for favours, although i know you are trying to make it sound like you are the one offering the photographers favours.

 

[Tuck Loong]

Guys,

Its true that many pros would not need folio shoots, especially those in the fashion industry. We are just too busy shooting, pitching for jobs and rushing for deadlines. However, there are many of us whom felt that there is a strong desire to share our experience and help those starting out, be it photographers, stylists, makeup/hairstylist or even models. We felt that its our way of returning to the indsutry since during our time, the industry has been very good to us that a lot of senior helped the juniors to succeed (teacher/disciple relationships). However, there are always the pros and cons of doing such shoots. I, myself have not done TFCDs for many years (we charge $500 bucks min for models folio shoots), but I have decided to do some to help young photographers starting out and make a name for themselves

Pros
* Photographers got to learn how to concept, plan and execute a themed shoot
* Photographers learn to work with a fashion stylist, makeup/hair, art director, DI artist and models in a team concept
* Photographers learn how to light creatively and reinforce basic lighting skills
* Models get to learn how to pose, with expression by learning from a fashion stylist
* Models get very good tear sheet materials, comparable to magazine/editorial standard

Cons (some of which I am guilty of myself too)
* If everyone is fresh, the quality of the photos might not be good
* Dont have the time/commitment to do a good job since its not paid (no excuse...must always try to give your best)
* Models cannot carry the look
* Clothes, shoes, accessories and bags get damaged

Just to share some history of positive outcome for test shoots that has benefited everyone:

* A model whom I have helped has gone on to win a pageant, winning accolades for being the miss photogenic as well clinching advertisement shoots with a better portfolio
* Some photographers whom I have arranged for test shoots with fashion stylists have gone on to do covers/editorial/advertorial for top magazines, Singtel ads, Wedding Boutiques shoots, big corporate shoots etc...working with top models and celebrities nowadays
* Some makeup artists that I have arranged to do test shoots have also moved on to become good wedding/commercial makeup/hairstylists, with works appearing in the straits times, top magazines and other commercial works

Just hope many people in this industry still believe in the old saying:

* "You help me, I will always remember, be grateful and help you back"

We all need each other in this industry. We just dont need a lot of the

* "You say, You do, I dont like, I sue you, whack you mentality"

Just be tolerant that we all have our own views and stands

Peace to all

 

[snowspeeder]

What can I say...being passionate about photography does not mean or exclude the photographer from the opportunity of being decently paid, right? And being well paid does not equate to a person as a money-minded individual. We can all think of countless professions who are highly paid. And they only think of money?

 

[Luval]

Hi there Tunk loong ,


Hearing what you have mentioned above really bring the warmth out from my heart.
I do know of fashion photographer who have trained/ guided some new photographer and have spent the whole day teaching them who asking for much amount of fee. These are people with a passion in photography and the hear to share what they have learn to the rest .

If ever there is an opportunity. I would really want to learn from you .

Then again back to the topic .
Yes, It true that the model have the best from all/ many photographer and it also very exhuastive for the model as well. It not about the $ that Does the talking. To many of us , I believe. There will be photographers that will be willing to give this a try and at the same time the organiser have to rethink what is he /she asking for without an atitude. It just doesnt bring out the professionalism in you .



To the organiser ..

Ups for you
Do also PM me some of the details and see if I cld be of any help to you.

 

[whiteprecision]

Yes, I believe there are no free lunches in this world.

However, this is a mutual exchange between the models and the photographers
where both sides stand to gain...

I would like to apologize if my words sounded harsh in my previous posts...

I can't help feeling offended that photographers think they are being exploited of their
free services here without acknowledging the fact that the models are willing to do it
without being paid as well... TFCD?

Please note that I'm doing this with nothing to gain (free service?) as well as my
girl friends who are modelling asked me to help them look for photographers to help
them shoot a different angle of themselves. I am not an agent and do not represent any
agency.

I'm merely helping them source for good photographers as a favour.

Furthermore, I have made good friends with a photographer from CLUBSNAP who
has been taking photos for the models and organized events without demanding money in return.

If money is such a huge issue, all I can say is that if the models are really satisfied with the photos, I'm sure they are more than willing to pay the photographers or engage their services in the future...

Yes, thanks to all those photographers who replied and said they are interested in this.

My inbox is flooded so kindly email me instead.

I can't possible reply all the emails but pls note that I will call you by end July.

Thanks!

Can i go into a camera shop to ask for a free camera because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i go into a photo developing shop to ask fo a free developing because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i go into a electonic shop to ask fo a free camera because i feel passionate about photography?

Can i ask singtel not to charge me inernet and phone bills bacause i feel passionate about photography?

 

[whiteprecision]

Yes definitely, photographers deserve to be paid... so do the models...
as both parties invest their time and effort in a photoshoot...

It's funny how in the other threads, photographers are expected and are willing to
pay to shoot the various models... ;p

Someone emailed me that I should also start organizing photoshoots that require photographers to pay as it isn't fair to the models...

Something to think about?

What can I say...being passionate about photography does not mean or exclude the photographer from the opportunity of being decently paid, right? And being well paid does not equate to a person as a money-minded individual. We can all think of countless professions who are highly paid. And they only think of money?

 

[vince123123]

You may also wish to consider the fact that in paid shoots, the photographers have no obligation to provide any photographs to the models (although some may do so out of the kindness of their hearts), so the focus is different altogether.

Also, in a paid shoot, the photographer will get to decide everything as far as how the photos are created (since he's paying). Unlike a TFCD where all parties get equal say in the creation of the product.

Hence the focus is different in each case.

Anyway Upz for you!!

It's funny how in the other threads, photographers are expected and are willing to
pay to shoot the various models... ;p

Someone emailed me that I should also start organizing photoshoots that require photographers to pay as it isn't fair to the models...

Something to think about?

 

[Newman]

This is a win-win situation for both models and photographers cum studio owners who wish to expand their portfolios.

However, I think if the thread starter had been upfront with the intention of her request, some ugly remarks could have been avoided. If you start a thread without clearly stating your intention and the purpose of the request, it can be misleading for readers and eventually you're going to get remarks such as these. This is a situation which is very common in a forum like Clubsnap.