Sony - RX1

[Thoth]

With all the necessary accessories, it will cost you near to $5k. I can use it also to own BOTH a Nex 7 and X-E1, though not full frame, but probably more fun!

But got to say it is really discreet using the RX1 to do street shooting, silent shutter & steathily compact. Tried holding it on my hands and find tat a half case will be better on gripping.

 

[Thoth]

Try a X100 if you need for street shooting. Especially the black one.

Actually the pricing of the RX1 makes the Leica more worth it now. All the superior mechanical parts, flawless rangefinder, best viewfinder, and with full frame sensor without AA filter. All these tend to explain why cost of Leica is so high. Can't sum up the cost factor for the RX1 though. Is it the lens or the sensor that is worth so much?

I think buyers can wait and get a used set at a huge discount for the RX1 in the next few months.

RX1 prices will definitely drop in a few months time but by how much? M9 usability is optimum below ISO 1250 as reviewed by many n though almost perfect guess this is one gap to fill. Correct me if I'm wrong coz I only tried it once before. I can't judge much. Haha.

RX100 is value for money in a sense if u compare it wif RX1 but coz it's a totally different league in sensor size, I wonder how much improvement does d RX1 really yield over d RX100 in terms of actual image quality?

 

[Atarandas]

A couple of months back, the highly acclaimed Nex 7 was always in shortage and selling at around $1.8k body alone and around $2k with kit lens.

It has dropped nicely by around 15% for a brand new set, and a used mint set by 25%-40% depending on duration.

So using the same estimation, you can gauge for the RX1.

Knowing how Sony works, the next RX will likely be with zoom lens, and then interchangeable lens later on. RX1 will then be selling at super bargain.

I don't think they will be able to make a compact zoom on the rx1 and still call it compact. Maybe with a inbuilt viewfinder. Anyway if you don't need the rx1 , the price drop or not ,it will not be of a concern eventually.

 

[ZoomZ]

You are right. OT too much. Let's keep to the topic on RX1 discussion and not whether I need or don't need a RX1.

I don't think they will be able to make a compact zoom on the rx1 and still call it compact. Maybe with a inbuilt viewfinder. Anyway if you don't need the rx1 , the price drop or not ,it will not be of a concern eventually.

 

[vicpeh]

The biggest omission for me is an articulating screen.

 

[justme77]

The biggest omission for me is an articulating screen.

And for me...

 

[Atarandas]

And the list of what-the-rx1-could-have-been would go on and on

 

[Thoth]

And the list of what-the-rx1-could-have-been would go on and on

Yupz. There's no perfect camera.

 

[Edlet]

And the list of what-the-rx1-could-have-been would go on and on

Once the list is done, it would end up as an A99 with a CZ lens.

But oh wait, thats too big? Isn't it?

 

[justme77]

Once the list is done, it would end up as an A99 with a CZ lens.

Nah. We already have the a99 and rx-1 is already with a cz lens.

 

[Errz]

review from luminous landscape

Full Sony RX1 review at Luminous Landscape! | sonyalpharumors

 

[bennyb]

anyone got lobang for Rx1's evf . Want to buy one to try

 

[tomcat]

review from luminous landscape

Full Sony RX1 review at Luminous Landscape! | sonyalpharumors

This is the part I like at the conclusion of the Luminous Landscape review of the RX1...

"There really isn't a comparable camera currently on the market. Certainly not one with a ful-frame 24MP sensor and a compact size. Cameras which some people may want to consider that serve a similar purpose, are the Leica X2, with its 16MP APS-C sized sensor, equivalent focal length lens (though at f/2.8 a stop slower), and available electronic viewfinder. Certainly the Sigma DP2 Merrill, which I've had very high regard for (in terms of image quality) is one to consider, and costs almost half as much as the X2, and nearly a third that of the RX1.

I have no experience with the X2, but I do with the DP2M. I've done some image comparisons between the two, and I'll state categorically that the DP2M has higher resolution. It doesn't match the RX1 in any other way, but man that Foveon sensor and the camera's built-in lens are stunning. (No, I will not publish comparison results. These cameras use different sensor technology, different raw software, have different sized sensors and have different resolutions. Any comparison between cameras is difficult and will invariably bring the townspeople to the castle gate with pitchforks in hand, so I'll simply say that if you want the better all-around camera, it's the RX1, but that the DP2M produces sharper and higher resolution results at normal print sizes, as well as on screen)."

From the images posted here and elsewhere by the RX1, I must say that I felt underwhelmed. I think it is the high expectation I have set for the RX1 given its price and specifications after my experience with the DP2M which costs 1/3 that of the RX1. Luminous Landscape just confirmed what I felt deep down inside.

 

[ageha]

This is the part I like at the conclusion of the Luminous Landscape review of the RX1...

"There really isn't a comparable camera currently on the market. Certainly not one with a ful-frame 24MP sensor and a compact size. Cameras which some people may want to consider that serve a similar purpose, are the Leica X2, with its 16MP APS-C sized sensor, equivalent focal length lens (though at f/2.8 a stop slower), and available electronic viewfinder. Certainly the Sigma DP2 Merrill, which I've had very high regard for (in terms of image quality) is one to consider, and costs almost half as much as the X2, and nearly a third that of the RX1.

I have no experience with the X2, but I do with the DP2M. I've done some image comparisons between the two, and I'll state categorically that the DP2M has higher resolution. It doesn't match the RX1 in any other way, but man that Foveon sensor and the camera's built-in lens are stunning. (No, I will not publish comparison results. These cameras use different sensor technology, different raw software, have different sized sensors and have different resolutions. Any comparison between cameras is difficult and will invariably bring the townspeople to the castle gate with pitchforks in hand, so I'll simply say that if you want the better all-around camera, it's the RX1, but that the DP2M produces sharper and higher resolution results at normal print sizes, as well as on screen)."

From the images posted here and elsewhere by the RX1, I must say that I felt underwhelmed. I think it is the high expectation I have set for the RX1 given its price and specifications after my experience with the DP2M which costs 1/3 that of the RX1. Luminous Landscape just confirmed what I felt deep down inside.

Is the DP2M really that good? What's the street price in S'pore?

 

[Agetan]

There are hardcore people who will always insist on an ovf, even if it's a "dumb" one

I know I know...

Sorry but OVF is better for me... though I must admit EVF has its usefulness and makes photography a lot easier especially if you shoot in Manual mode as you can see the changes right away and no more under or over expose.

Perhaps it is my old me that doesn't want to change? hahaha... oh well, I have gone the other side.

Hart

 

[tomcat]

Is the DP2M really that good? What's the street price in S'pore?

Should be about $1.2k+.
The DP2M is not a perfect camera. In fact it is very far from being one. But when it is good, it is unbeatable. Not even my D800E I dare say can beat the DP2M at its best.
Do check out some of the images especially the full resolution ones at my review of the DP2M here if you have not already seen them...
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/reviews/1134888-sigma-dp2m-users-review.html

 

[nsng]

Is the DP2M really that good? What's the street price in S'pore?

I have the DP1M, which has a 19mm lens ( 28 in 35mm equivalent), same sensor. The Foveon resolution is remarkable. I bought this a week before I left for my New Zealand trip and based on the results, it's resolution is better than my A850. When view at 100% details at infinity are sharp and clear. It does have its quirks and I would not recommend it to someone who needs to shoot at high ISO. Here is a link to my South Island photos, Zenfolio | N.S. Ng | South Island, New Zealand Oct/Nov 2012 Nos. 51-72 were captured using the DP1M.

Here is an interesting review in Luminous Landscape, Sigma DP2M Review

As far as pricing is concerned, the RX1 is about 3 times more expensive than the DP1M/2M, but then it is more versatile and it is full frame with a Zeiss lens.

 

[ageha]

I have the DP1M, which has a 19mm lens ( 28 in 35mm equivalent), same sensor. The Foveon resolution is remarkable. I bought this a week before I left for my New Zealand trip and based on the results, it's resolution is better than my A850. When view at 100% details at infinity are sharp and clear. It does have its quirks and I would not recommend it to someone who needs to shoot at high ISO. Here is a link to my South Island photos, Zenfolio | N.S. Ng | South Island, New Zealand Oct/Nov 2012 Nos. 51-72 were captured using the DP1M.

Here is an interesting review in Luminous Landscape, Sigma DP2M Review

As far as pricing is concerned, the RX1 is about 3 times more expensive than the DP1M/2M, but then it is more versatile and it is full frame with a Zeiss lens.

Well, the lens from good old Carl isn't worth anything if the output isn't any better. Are the lens hood and batteries already available in Singapore?
Btw awesome shots!

 

[Atarandas]

I have the DP1M, which has a 19mm lens ( 28 in 35mm equivalent), same sensor. The Foveon resolution is remarkable. I bought this a week before I left for my New Zealand trip and based on the results, it's resolution is better than my A850. When view at 100% details at infinity are sharp and clear. It does have its quirks and I would not recommend it to someone who needs to shoot at high ISO. Here is a link to my South Island photos, Zenfolio | N.S. Ng | South Island, New Zealand Oct/Nov 2012 Nos. 51-72 were captured using the DP1M.

Here is an interesting review in Luminous Landscape, Sigma DP2M Review

As far as pricing is concerned, the RX1 is about 3 times more expensive than the DP1M/2M, but then it is more versatile and it is full frame with a Zeiss lens.

I agree. on a point by point basis, there will be cameras that can do certain things better. The Foveon sensor in DPm2 is unique but considering that the current market are full of ISOs crazed buyers, that is not enough.

I think if the RX is priced at 100 dollars, millions will swear blind that the IQ from the RX1 is the best . While the RX1 remains as it is.
IF the RX1 resolution is tops , but sucks at low light, the nay-sayers and the High ISO groupies will be unhappy.

 

[Atarandas]

Well, the lens from good old Carl isn't worth anything if the output isn't any better.

is it , i thought the measuring scale nowadays is IQ at ISO 12,800 ??? :dunno:

DPM2 will probably be torn to pieces by ISO freaks from ISO800 and above.