Halfmoon
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It is the best... any new pc, laptop, handphone or tablet, it can sync all.... :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Sony A7/(r) image sharing thread
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It is the best... any new pc, laptop, handphone or tablet, it can sync all.... :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
No problem, happy to share...
Taking MacDaddy's sample (hope he does not mind, else I will remove), different browsers do show different colours on the same system. Anyone knows how to sync the colours?
Left is using Chrome, right is using IE10.
ManWearPants
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FE 55 1.8
After seeing so many images at f1.2 and f1.4, I have 2 thoughts about this new zoom lens and the FE lenses.
(1) I wonder if f4 is sufficient as a normal zoom lens that is not UWA nor tele. While it works for the wide end but the tele end may not have the subject isolation that we have seen so much. 70mm f4, enough? I know we wanted smaller lenses. I wouldn't mind a 21-35/4 + 35-80/2.8 combo. The UWA can be a 14-21/5.6. I hope Sigma or Zeiss will tinker and experiment with a new focal range of zooms.
(2) The subject isolation of FE lenses seems to lack character. It is just so clean, high contrast, sharp and predictable. Imagine anyone with these lenses crank it to widest aperture, you will get tonnes of similar images. Bokeh is the artistic quality of OoF area. Can the term bokeh still be used to described the OoF of FE lenses. It is almost a guarantee that you get these similar effect once you crank it wide open. There is no swirly bokeh, there is no light falloff, there is no abrupt transitions, etc.
Anyway, just my opinions. I am grateful to Sony for A7 though.
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coolhirako
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I hate you !!! You the one poison me to buy this lens !!!
Thoth
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Paisei bro... to cause u such agony... May d force b wif U...
I will share the colour version just for U k... Not as poisonous... MC Rokkor 58/1.2 @ wide open
spinworkxroy
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After seeing so many images at f1.2 and f1.4, I have 2 thoughts about this new zoom lens and the FE lenses.
(1) I wonder if f4 is sufficient as a normal zoom lens that is not UWA nor tele. While it works for the wide end but the tele end may not have the subject isolation that we have seen so much. 70mm f4, enough? I know we wanted smaller lenses. I wouldn't mind a 21-35/4 + 35-80/2.8 combo. The UWA can be a 14-21/5.6. I hope Sigma or Zeiss will tinker and experiment with a new focal range of zooms.
(2) The subject isolation of FE lenses seems to lack character. It is just so clean, high contrast, sharp and predictable. Imagine anyone with these lenses crank it to widest aperture, you will get tonnes of similar images. Bokeh is the artistic quality of OoF area. Can the term bokeh still be used to described the OoF of FE lenses. It is almost a guarantee that you get these similar effect once you crank it wide open. There is no swirly bokeh, there is no light falloff, there is no abrupt transitions, etc.
Anyway, just my opinions. I am grateful to Sony for A7 though.
Personally, i would prefer it f2.8 and no OSS than f4 with OSS. It's not because i want the subject isolation or bokeh...i'm not a fan of bokeh. But i want something that is f2.8 so when i step down to f4, it will be tact sharp. I don't like shooting wide open really.
For me, i believe in this philosophy: you can make a sharp image blur but not vice vesa.
I want my images as sharp as they can be with as much detail as possible...everything else..i will do in photoshop anyways..i don't need bokeh, i don't need blured background etc...all those i can do in photoshop.
coolhirako
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Which store ?
ricleo
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hehe everyone has their own requirements and preferences from the lenses and cameras bought.
if you want bokeh with character and effects, just go for the manual focus legacy lenses well known for these effects. the modern lenses are just too well designed to correct optical defects to show these characteristics. I don't think anyone complains that the Canon L lenses, or Nikon pro glasses for their clinical sharpness n clean bokeh. Just different design.
what used to be optical defects and busy / distracting backgrounds to others are also now lens characteristics that please another group of people.
for the 24-70 F4, i think the compromise in size vs F-stop is sufficient. I had the canon 24-105 and the 24-70 F4 lenses for a period of time on my full frame EOS bodies, and I would say they are fit for purpose as walkabout/holiday lenses. want more isolation go for the primes
if you want bokeh with character and effects, just go for the manual focus legacy lenses well known for these effects. the modern lenses are just too well designed to correct optical defects to show these characteristics. I don't think anyone complains that the Canon L lenses, or Nikon pro glasses for their clinical sharpness n clean bokeh. Just different design.
what used to be optical defects and busy / distracting backgrounds to others are also now lens characteristics that please another group of people.
for the 24-70 F4, i think the compromise in size vs F-stop is sufficient. I had the canon 24-105 and the 24-70 F4 lenses for a period of time on my full frame EOS bodies, and I would say they are fit for purpose as walkabout/holiday lenses. want more isolation go for the primes
After seeing so many images at f1.2 and f1.4, I have 2 thoughts about this new zoom lens and the FE lenses.
(1) I wonder if f4 is sufficient as a normal zoom lens that is not UWA nor tele. While it works for the wide end but the tele end may not have the subject isolation that we have seen so much. 70mm f4, enough? I know we wanted smaller lenses. I wouldn't mind a 21-35/4 + 35-80/2.8 combo. The UWA can be a 14-21/5.6. I hope Sigma or Zeiss will tinker and experiment with a new focal range of zooms.
(2) The subject isolation of FE lenses seems to lack character. It is just so clean, high contrast, sharp and predictable. Imagine anyone with these lenses crank it to widest aperture, you will get tonnes of similar images. Bokeh is the artistic quality of OoF area. Can the term bokeh still be used to described the OoF of FE lenses. It is almost a guarantee that you get these similar effect once you crank it wide open. There is no swirly bokeh, there is no light falloff, there is no abrupt transitions, etc.
Anyway, just my opinions. I am grateful to Sony for A7 though.
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Thoth
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Prime Camera at Adelphi... CY 85/1.4 Ninja Star around 1.4K. D rest think around 5k and above... go BBB
ricleo
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i like my images to be sharp sharp sharp as well hehe.... that's y have been optimising my lense collection for the A7 quite abit since i got the sony hehe....
Thoth
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Different ppl appreciates characters and rendering differently. Just buy what appeals to you and bo chap wat others think lo... You are spending your own hard earned money so just be happy with what the gears can bring you, be it modern clinical rendering or old classic rendering with an acquired character...
Moral of the story... Dun stop buying... Just BBB...
Thoth
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U R almost there bro.. Just need the Otus... One who rules them all and in darkness binds them... :bsmilie:
ricleo
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hahaha i haven't stopped hehe....
Thoth
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Otus!!! BBB.
I echoed what the other said above...however the attraction for me for buying fast lenses is be able to shoot it wide open, not stopping down a stop or two to seek sharpness. A lens worth it's salt should be reasonably sharp even at it's widest aperture (imagine buying the Otus just so you could shoot it at f5.6).
I have yet to try out the FE24-70/4 at f/4.0 so I would not want to judge, but my kind of keeper is a lens that's sharp at the focus area yet be able to throw a creamy OOF background, and so far only my Leica is able to do it. For me personally, I'm not too impressed with my FE55/1.8, like it just not too impressed. Hoped the FE24-70/4
works better for me.
ricleo
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i think if a F1.8 can't give a creamy background, an f4 will suit you even less. the 24-70 is more for flexibility i guess. not my usual cup of tea unless i am on holiday
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