Klose said:$0.02 * Say 2 bus trips + 2 mrt rides = $0.08
365* $0.08 = $29.20 -> $2.45 per month.
This is assuming that routine is done everyday.
Our public transport is still CHEAP when compared to other countries. So why complain?
cookiez said:they have given u a chicken drumstick, now its time they want a whole
chicken back from u
jdredd said:heh. if anyone i know who voted *** and they start complaining about this, confirm i laugh loud loud in their face.
Klose said:$0.02 * Say 2 bus trips + 2 mrt rides = $0.08
365* $0.08 = $29.20 -> $2.45 per month.
This is assuming that routine is done everyday.
Our public transport is still CHEAP when compared to other countries. So why complain?
Expensive compared to which country?...please compare to countries that are at similar development level and income level as Singapore. Yes, it is expensive compared to Indonesia, just as a number. But relatively, as compared to the income.......dawgbyte77 said:Well... its also EXPENSIVE compared to other countries. And its terrible if your intention is to complain only when it become the most expensive compared to any countries.
Having said that, I find the service quite good, I don't see trains hiding or suddenly having on call or busy signs, and 1-2cents still seems okay.
hongsien said:Expensive compared to which country?...please compare to countries that are at similar development level and income level as Singapore. Yes, it is expensive compared to Indonesia, just as a number. But relatively, as compared to the income.......
Maybe, one should also look at your own lifestyle, do you need to buy that next washing machine? Or the latest LCD TV? Or do you need to upgrade your PC? Do you need to buy the latest gadgets? Can't wait till next year?........try to look at where you can save money, maybe cook yourself instead of eating outside everyday?
I understand that there are a group of people in SIN city that live marginally, I hope that the government will look into that. A few years ago (maybe 8 years), I read a story in the newspaper here, about this guy who worked at a local warehouse and earned an income of SGD 1000, of this he donated SGD 200 every month. He had a family of four persons......and he was not complaining at all! Instead, he had a happy lifestyle and he saud he was very fortunate he was still able to help the less unfortunate! I never forgot this persons attitude to life!
I heard from a friend today that life in Malaysia is not that cheap too relatively.......although for Singaporeans it is, when they go to Malaysia.
Living in Singapore is still not that expensive as compared to HKG, I lived there before, and these countries have similar structures......Alot of things in SIN city you only pay for when you use. Income tax is very low here......one thing they can introduce is free basic healthcare for everyone, maybe that day will come. But SIN city needs a bigger working base to pay for that I guess.
If you want to talk about expensive, go to Europe, life is expensive (even more with the Euro!!), tax are high, but you get alot back, if you get sick or unemployed that is. If you stay healthy till old, then you won't be using the funds you have been saving.......unlike in SIN city where the funds you save remain yours (CPF was invented by a Dutch socialist economist BTW).
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dawgbyte77 said:I think you are missing the point. What I'm trying to point out is the unnecessary need to compare. Must we compare to feel good, bad or plain justified because there is someone who is better off or worst off than we? And again, you are expecting other people to react based on how you would. I do agree that MRT fare hike of 1 or 2 cents is not that bad but if someone else find this a big deal, I can't say he is wrong until I know where he is coming from. You have been to HK but for some people I know, they can't even afford to have that luxury. As for Europe, if I can afford to go Europe then I don't think I have any rights to complain either.
Your example of a man who donated $200 may be altruistic but the reason you remembered it is because it seldom happens. On the other hand, I would keep an open mind whether to laud him or not because I'm not sure if he donated the money at the expense of his wife and 4 children. If he donated without consultation or agreement from his wife and children, which resulted for them to suffer while he become a "hero", then its not as altruistic as it seems to be.
sweat100 said:Well... Their annual profit still is always increasing despite them telling the cost of this that is increasing blah blah. So what does that tell you? No matter what, they earn more from us at the end of each day. Someone has asked me, has our pay been increasing to cater to these increases? For some yes, how abt for those who didnt? Worse still, decreasing pay. :cry:
if they raise the service standard, they can justify the cost increasedenniskee said:1) the man in the news say the hike is to cover the cost of replacing the train and buying of spare parts.
this is odd, thought all these are already factor into the operational cost / running cost? so is he double charging??
2) a fine of $10k if they dont mee all the std set.
chinese saying "sheep's hair grow on the sheeps". they can just factor this into the operation / running cost, than use it to justify the next fare hike??
How's the waiting time for really off peak periods in HK MTR? It's like 10-13 mins here. Can die ah....kcuf2 said:To take the best country for comparison, based on population and land size (hongkong), i want to highlight that in hongkong we wait no more than 1 min for a train! During peak hour, expect 30seconds and another train will come!
in singapore?? we can easily expect more than 5 or 6 times the waiting time!