Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art lens
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Actually not made by them like they do with the Manual DSLR lenses which are Cosina anyways.... the whole Sony Zeiss Line is Made by Sony just opticlally designed by Ziess under a licensing agreement. / the T* Coating is also under this agreement.... all with a Zeiss Badge
( EXACTLY Like Panasonic and Leica. )
Hacker
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Its on my list... but then so is the Zeiss OTUS 55mm late in 2014.
Get the Otus now. Late 2014 lens is for the Otus 85mm.
ManWearPants
Senior Member
Would I buy another Sigma 50/1.4. No!
I bought a Sigma 50 in 2009. 2 years on in 2011, a new smooth version replaces it. And another 2 years on, a new version with a different optical configuration replaces it. The Sigma 50 has, in my opinion, becomes the standard lens for Sigma to tinkle with. I won't be surprise that another 2 years down, there will be another version with slight tinkering.
I don't have a problem with continual improvement of lenses. Minor changes every 2 years and a major change every 4 years has to be the most fickle minded lens design as far as I can remember. Another Sigma 50? Thanks but no thanks unless you allow trade-ins for substantial value retention.
I bought a Sigma 50 in 2009. 2 years on in 2011, a new smooth version replaces it. And another 2 years on, a new version with a different optical configuration replaces it. The Sigma 50 has, in my opinion, becomes the standard lens for Sigma to tinkle with. I won't be surprise that another 2 years down, there will be another version with slight tinkering.
I don't have a problem with continual improvement of lenses. Minor changes every 2 years and a major change every 4 years has to be the most fickle minded lens design as far as I can remember. Another Sigma 50? Thanks but no thanks unless you allow trade-ins for substantial value retention.
Blur Shadow
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This is the relentless pursuit for perfection leh!
ManWearPants
Senior Member
It's like a fART! There is always going to be another one.
Sorry. I just have to take a shot at Sigma for this 50mm and for introducing SA mount. What the fART! haha!
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NazgulKing
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Or rather they have lots of money to burn.
I am wondering really what's the real catch for Sigma. I wonder what they are doing that is enough to undercut the margins of the big boys by half and deliver better image quality. There has to be a catch somewhere. Lousier mechanics that are rated for shorter usage?
ricleo
Senior Member
i seriously think it is the big boys like canon nikon and sony are making too much margins, or their R&D is seriously lacking to be losing to a 3rd party lens maker.
i have the 35 1.4 sigma on Canon mount,85 1.4 on sony A mount and a 30 2.8 on emount. all of them are stunningly sharp and have lovely construction. For sure I will add this 50 1.4 to my collection, either in EF or A mount.
i have the 35 1.4 sigma on Canon mount,85 1.4 on sony A mount and a 30 2.8 on emount. all of them are stunningly sharp and have lovely construction. For sure I will add this 50 1.4 to my collection, either in EF or A mount.
NazgulKing
Senior Member
The high precision industry is sadly a business where you can't afford to earn too little margins and only to die in the future. A lot of R&D these days are more focused on the digital side of the camera business. Optics wise, there's not a lot of research can be done except on better coatings and mechanics and possibly better materials, but unless some fancy material is discovered, you aren't going to get much more than what there is these days.
Sigma either decided that they are willing to risk lesser margins for the sake of better sales and hoping that once they are an established and recognised player, they can charge more in the future. But that rarely works out in the case. Ultimately, all the camera companies price their products based on how many they think they can sell and how much margins they will earn in return. It is possible that they are definitely aiming for as high a margin as they can but if people don't buy, those margins will have to come down.
slackerlism
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Haha. Agreed. Think I also bought the 1st generation too. Now after upgraded to FF, wanted to change to 35mm or 85mm lens, but likely unable to find a buyer for this lens at a reasonable price as people wants new coating, etc.
Kenny Khaw
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Certainly for now with the new SGV A,C and S lenses, Sigma does not use any "lousier" mechanics. EVerything, even to the tiniest of screws, is all 100% made in Japan. Even the brochures and catalogues are printed in Japan.not China. If you dont believe it, MichaelLee has been to the factory in Aizu to see it with his own eyes. He may have pictures to prove it too. everything is QC in the 1 and only factory in the world, which is in Aizu. Sigma is going for the kill to match Zeiss, not even Canon or Nikon.
NazgulKing
Senior Member
Just because it's made in Japan doesn't mean they are aiming for the tight tolerances required, or the QC required for. You will be surprised how elaborate optical testing equipment can be. The Japanese aren't good at everything. Even now America remains the world leader in semiconductors for example.
Don't get me wrong. I am interested in the Sigma 35/1.4, and maybe the new 50mm. The thing holding me back is the issue of firmware, and AF accuracy etc. Nikon is notorious for jacking 3rd Party products which is holding me back too.
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fishndicks
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Well I hope the price will be around the current 50mm f/1.4 ... else most likely I'll just get the cheapo Nikon 50mm f/1.8
ManWearPants
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Unlikely since it s going after Zeiss Otus. My guess is about 2k, half the price of Zeiss Otus.
Price of the new Sigma 50 art is leaked... Not cheap at all.
http://photorumors.com/2014/02/06/the-price-of-the-new-sigma-50mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-art-lens-around-1300/
If they dare to price it at this level, can it be that it outshines the Nikon 58/1.4 and maybe even the Otus 55/1.4? If it really comes close or exceed to the Otus's performace, a lot of CZ owners will beat their chest... yet again...
http://photorumors.com/2014/02/06/the-price-of-the-new-sigma-50mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-art-lens-around-1300/
If they dare to price it at this level, can it be that it outshines the Nikon 58/1.4 and maybe even the Otus 55/1.4? If it really comes close or exceed to the Otus's performace, a lot of CZ owners will beat their chest... yet again...
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ManWearPants
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Blur Shadow
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Woah... I hope the published price is an error. It is really expensive if true...
fishndicks
Member
At this point in time, I think the price is anyone's guess.
Another site listed the price as AUD 899
*triple-w*.dirtcheapcameras.com.au/sigma-50mm-f-1-4-dg-hsm-art-lens-for-canon-mount.html
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You guys better read this. Canikon 50/1.4 both decimated by this lens. Sigma is going after the Otus...
http://petapixel.com/2014/02/28/sigmas-50mm-f1-4-otus-competitor-gets-tested-see-stacks-king/
http://petapixel.com/2014/02/28/sigmas-50mm-f1-4-otus-competitor-gets-tested-see-stacks-king/
