from what moi noticed, most have already got some sort of tele-zoom, so it's not an issue here; moi have a cheap tele too. if moi ever have either the 200-400, 500 or 600, i might consider shooting from far behind, but then doesnt mean i want to.
Not really. Just don't feel like wasting my time arguing with you. Wait you throw me lots of law and stuff, might cause me headaches.
A ladder is a tool.. it can do no wrong. A tool in the hands of some who is knows how to do the work helps produces quality in hands that are clueless creates a mess. Where to place is ladder is not an any how can thing. Been using a ladder since the first Singapore Fashion week, never subscribed to the stand right in front use a 50mm and whack idealogy. Suggest using common sense and common manner in using them. However some places the security are quite firm about how you can use your ladder.
can the Mods kindly close this thread till the next toon creates YET ANOTHER ladder thread for anti ladder fans to whine in?
Thanks~!:heart:
Agree with the viewpoint above. I am kinda neutral about this issue, since some time in the long-gone past I also did try using ladder to shoot at events (not any more though), and it does help one take better shots above those pesky hands raising handphones, fan banners, and the like. It is just unfortunate that majority of ladder users do not exercise civic-mindedness in public arena and do not give a thought to those whom they may end up blocking. This applies to those who indiscrimnately set up ladders wherever they like, even at the inconvenience of others. Even if you come early, and at the front row, doesn't mean you "suka suka" set up ladder there also. :nono:I think its fair game if both sides come in and bring across their views in a civil manner, being anti-ladder is not neccessary whining.
For me, there are considerate ladder users and inconsiderate ones. It is just that it is more likely that we speak about the latter rather than the former.
Ladder users or not, there are so many other cases of inconsideration from photographers. In the end, its all about civic mindedness.
The disgusting thing is PGs on ladders right at the very first row! It totally deprived other PGs and public the chance to watch the event from the front view.
Considerate, in my view is
1) not to stand on the ladder for the whole event depending on event
2) not to come late and squeeze into the crowd and setup your ladder in the middle. definitely agree! if one is late, just stand behind and inch forward when the crowds thinned.
3) not to have the mentality that "I take the trouble to buy and bring the ladder why shouldn't I use it anyway I like", resulting in cases 1) and 2) partially or totally disagree
Ladder users or not, there are so many other cases of inconsideration from photographers. In the end, its all about civic mindedness.
always the case and its the same faces most of the time...Any comments on this..?
Recent event.
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On the ladder, is it necessary to stand at the first, 2nd row..?
However, got to note that there are PG who more considerate and are stationed further back
always the case and its the same faces most of the time...
always the case and its the same faces most of the time...
yup so many familiar faces...esp. the "greyhound";p
lucky me not inside...:sweat: and i neber brought ladder that day.![]()
Just curious of views if photographers should be standing on steps / ladders?
As was at various events and saw some of the photographers standing at the front middle infront of the stage and in the process blocking the view of people attending the event behind.
hmm.. then you muz be 1 of the good ones.. even with ladder, by just standing 2m back (which wouldn't make much difference to the picture with a telezoom), no one will be blocked, and everyone will be happy.
greyhound?