Shanghai 120 GP3 - Hiaz

[Nikkornos]

Still have one brick of Shanghai 120 GP3. My previous batch was OK.
However, the latest batch seems to be terrible (in silver foil, not red foil).

Experiment

Film A - load and shoot in subdued sunlight
unloaded in subdued sunlight

Film B - load in darkness, shoot in room using flash
unload in darkness, put into film box and then load into tank. (eliminate light)

Same development, same chemicals, same tank.

Film A - backing paper wordings appearing on film
film looks fogged
starting part of film looks really fogged
ending parts has the white arrow on backing paper imposed on film

Film B - Same!
Looks equally fogged!

Hypothesis:

1. Film got fried when clearing custom - (then why others Fuji Agfa etc etc not affected?)
2. Film got fried during manufacturing - (maybe, one PRC run production with a candle light on? or loaded the film in red light?)
3. Film in darkness and film in light shows equally fogged -> film is already fogged before exposure.


Conclusion:

DONT USE SHANGHAI GP3 120.

 

[crispy12]

Haha... that's been my experience with Shanghai GP for the past 15+ rolls. Still have 5 more left. I've been shooting at ISO 50, so the image overpowers the marks from the paper. Don't even think about push processing. Makes the markings even more obvious

Don't think i'll be buying this in 120 format anytime soon...

 

[Nikkornos]

Haha... that's been my experience with Shanghai GP for the past 15+ rolls. Still have 5 more left. I've been shooting at ISO 50, so the image overpowers the marks from the paper. Don't even think about push processing. Makes the markings even more obvious

Don't think i'll be buying this in 120 format anytime soon...

Yes. I confirm the seller in Hong Kong the GP3 is hopeless.


I have checked with Issac Chen of Taiwan. He sells Shanghai film.
This is his reply : Test out 10 rolls for quality. If no good, refund.

May be work checking. I did have some GP3 giving decent results.

 

[pikapig]

this is wat my shanghai gp gave mi

 

[sunnycamera]

can not see windows in that 3 building. like 3 big black bar,

quite interesting effect.

 

[lualua]

this is wat my shanghai gp gave mi

Looks like reticulation. Did u shock the emulsion with sudden temperature change?

 

[pikapig]

Looks like reticulation. Did u shock the emulsion with sudden temperature change?

No lua lua, developed at 20degrees thru..nver push the film too...it looks very much like my very expired roll of film.

 

[Nikkornos]

No lua lua, developed at 20degrees thru..nver push the film too...it looks very much like my very expired roll of film.

Ok guys, I just did a fresh stock of GP3 from China, dated 2015. Emulsion 5102.

Developed in Ilfordsol 3 20C 1+9 for 8mins, very nice clear base, and contrasty image like the 4X5.
(I am going to try expose at ASA50 for 6mins later.)

I will scan and check.

I have yet check Issac Chen's stock. Will report later.
Basically, those bought from Hong Kong sellers were bad.

 

[Nikkornos]

Emulsion 2014 5157

45mm F3.5 exposed at ASA100
Kodak HC110 solution H 20C

Typical horrible results.

 

[Nikkornos]

Emulsion 2015 5102 - China import

Zeiss 50mm F4
Ilfordsol 3 1+9 20C

damn my film back got light leaks

 

[Nikkornos]

Terrible China quality! The Lucky 135 are OK for me, but the 120 is going into black list.
No wonder both SHD and GP3 120 got terminated.

Just done the LUCKY SHD 100 film 120. Same film backing as the Shanghai GP3....
Here is the same bad results again. Damn!

Same film backing, Same imprint on film.


I will try out the New batch of 2015 GP3 from China and Issac Chen.
If not, have to continue to use Acros 100.

 

[pishal]

I have 50 rolls coming from Hong Kong but not from seller Isaac Chen..now I'm worried.

 

[Shadowleong]

Sell to lomographers lol

 

[raytoei]

my son's psle results day was captured on the flaky gp3...
complete with all the weird poka dots and fog and all the rubbish,
i was so angry i swore off gp3.

 

[Nikkornos]

my son's psle results day was captured on the flaky gp3...
complete with all the weird poka dots and fog and all the rubbish,
i was so angry i swore off gp3.

I know the feeling. GP3 120 :thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd:

 

[Nikkornos]

my son's psle results day was captured on the flaky gp3...
complete with all the weird poka dots and fog and all the rubbish,
i was so angry i swore off gp3.

Wah, looks like your son did well in PSLE and only the film bothered you!

My son's PSLE , both me and my kid were picking our balls from the floor after seeing the results.

 

[Nikkornos]

OK guys,

LUCKY SHD 120, 2013 which ever emulsion or dates, ALL the same.

Pokka dots and numbering, together with the end of film Arrows all appeared.
The only way is too shoot it at ASA 50 in high brightness area to burn off the wordings.

I know I appear Bor Liao playing with this film. I got 20 rolls GP3 and 20 rolls SHD now.
What a waste of time and developer.

Anyway, I used this film to fix my light leak problem on the Hassy and Kiev.
If you do not want to waste good film, perhaps this is what GP3 120 was meant for.

I still cannot figure out how come the wordings get imprinted. Cannot be X ray....
I have used good and bad cameras on this film... all same results.

:thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd:

 

[Nikkornos]

I have 50 rolls coming from Hong Kong but not from seller Isaac Chen..now I'm worried.

Have you received your film yet?

 

[zguy]

OK guys,

I still cannot figure out how come the wordings get imprinted. Cannot be X ray....
I have used good and bad cameras on this film... all same results.

:thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd:

Unlike Ilford film paper backing where it is white and coated with a layer of black backing, Shanghai's paper backing is just a layer of black paper. Once the film is reeled tightly into the spool at the factory, the dots got transferred to the emulsion. How about you take an unexposed roll and process it?

 

[HoangHung]

I can't trust 120 film made-in-China anymore. I had decent results with Lucky SHD100 in 135 format, but 120 gave me sh*t


My experience with GP3 also the same:
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/traditional-darkroom/1241753-strange-results.html