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Yin said:
Sorry to hear about your friend's situation. Unfortunately there's nothing we can do to stop others from sticking their noses into other people's business--human nature! People are nosey since the beginning of time, for better or worse.
As a friend, I'm sure you are standing by him/her and his family. It's most unfortunate that your friend's community has a deep-rooted mindset that he and you may never see changed in your lifetimes...society has no compassion for such "mistakes".
I'm sure your friend and his mother are fundamentally good people. Your friend is innocent, and yet he's bearing the consequences of someone else's mistake. Not fair, right? So, friends, before we do anything controversial, we need realise that there may be greater consequences that affect other people. Case in point would be SPG's pics and dragging her family into the pic--I'm sure she didn't want it to be happened, but it did; something beyond her control happened.
Putting it in a bigger picture and back into SPG's issue, none of us can control SPG's free will. What has happened, has happened. What we (and the society) can do now is to have more compassion, but not be apathetic and say "it's all right, let her be", using "freedom of speech" and "self-expression" as shields. SPG does not deserved to be condemned, but I hope that she can learn this lesson of action and conseqences.
and yes, the local media was just looking for scantcladtional news to rack in dollars. i can't say that they're fools thoughjust a bit on the inconsiderate and nosy side.
That's what makes life a bit more interesting yeah (unfortunately, here, on the expense of others)? Otherwise most of us can't even be bothered to question ourselves what we stand for!
Yin said:hommie>i've learnt not to judge anyone, nor call anyone a fool. besides, who are we to know what's the definite right and wrong? it's quite hard to do at first, but i'm trying. sometimes people do certain things for a certain reason we may/not comprehend. i have my slips and misses, but i try to understand about 'why' it happens. it's of course, my way of thinking
:thumbsup: Keep it up.
StreetShooter
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First, let me say that I have read her ENTIRE blog. While it is titillating, I find that I feel sorry for her, and find myself worrying about how to prevent my 10-year-old daughter from going down the same path, rather than feeling any self-righteous condemnation of her choices in life. It must be my age showing through.
Let's take the issues one by one.
1. Posting of nude photo.
This, to me, is probably the least of it. Just do a search of "Singaporean escorts in London" for instance. You'll find many more better-taken photos of better looking Singaporean girls than you will ever see on SPG's blog.
2. Her promiscuity and multiple sexual partners.
In any decent society (not just Asian ones) this is condemned. It may be prevalent in practice in many societies, but seldom or never approved of. The very fact that people feel they need to defend this lifestyle is evidence of the moral law (as CS Lewis calls it) that speaks to the conscience to say that it is wrong. If I did not feel something is wrong I would not feel any need to defend my action. My personal experience has been that the best bet to lasting happiness lies within a monogamous, loving relationship, and this has been the case in almost every society since civilization began. Since this is what I believe, I would of course wish the same for my daughter, so that she can be happy. The statistical evidence (let's not talk about exceptions here) is that promiscuous people are GENERALLY less emotionally satisfied than happily married couples. They are also more prone to getting sexually transmitted diseases and mental illnesses.
3. Her preference of white men, and denigration of local men.
If you ask me, this is probably the real reason why a lot of Singaporeans are up in arms against her, as someone pointed out previously. It is not so much her preference for white men per se, as her derogatory remarks about local men which rankles. If I like Canon cameras, I dont have to say how lousy Nikon cameras are (they arent). I just prefer Canon, thats all. But thats not the case here. In retaliation, many local boys are talking about how she herself cannot make it, and how ang mohs have very much lower standards with regards to local girls (as compared to local men). This is pretty childish as well, and actually serves to prove her point more than anything else. But then this sort of behaviour is certainly NOT confined to young asian males.
4. Her upbringing
I think no one will contest the fact that GENERALLY speaking, well adjusted responsible children come from respectable homes. Again, lets talk about the general rule rather than the exceptions. This is probably the reason why people started attacking her parents. Unfortunately, in this case, I do think she is an exception to the rules, and her parents are not to blame. I always have to remind myself that I do not own my children they are individuals in their own right, and after I have tried my best to bring them up, they become responsible for their own life choices.
5. Her knowledge of the Bible and Christianity
I think her concept of grace is all wrong. Mattlock seems to have a firmer grasp of the human condition (ie we are all filthy scoundrels who have no right to judge one another) than she does. Grace is free, but it is not cheap. Romans 6:1 says it all: Are we to go on sinning so that grace may abound? God forbid!
6. Freedom of speech
I think this is a non issue here. No one has denied her freedom of speech. If nothing else, she has demonstrated a basic truth that freedom of speech carries with it the need for responsibility and discretion, otherwise the personal fallout will be severe, as she is finding out to her dismay.
7. Her personal ethos
She has claimed that her aim in life is to do whatever she likes, as long as she does not hurt the ones she holds dear. The problem is that she is doing just that (ie hurting those who love her). Her parents must be very sad. I am not referring to the shame of having brought up a daughter like her, but the sadness they must feel that she has chosen such a self-destructive course of life.
Let's take the issues one by one.
1. Posting of nude photo.
This, to me, is probably the least of it. Just do a search of "Singaporean escorts in London" for instance. You'll find many more better-taken photos of better looking Singaporean girls than you will ever see on SPG's blog.
2. Her promiscuity and multiple sexual partners.
In any decent society (not just Asian ones) this is condemned. It may be prevalent in practice in many societies, but seldom or never approved of. The very fact that people feel they need to defend this lifestyle is evidence of the moral law (as CS Lewis calls it) that speaks to the conscience to say that it is wrong. If I did not feel something is wrong I would not feel any need to defend my action. My personal experience has been that the best bet to lasting happiness lies within a monogamous, loving relationship, and this has been the case in almost every society since civilization began. Since this is what I believe, I would of course wish the same for my daughter, so that she can be happy. The statistical evidence (let's not talk about exceptions here) is that promiscuous people are GENERALLY less emotionally satisfied than happily married couples. They are also more prone to getting sexually transmitted diseases and mental illnesses.
3. Her preference of white men, and denigration of local men.
If you ask me, this is probably the real reason why a lot of Singaporeans are up in arms against her, as someone pointed out previously. It is not so much her preference for white men per se, as her derogatory remarks about local men which rankles. If I like Canon cameras, I dont have to say how lousy Nikon cameras are (they arent). I just prefer Canon, thats all. But thats not the case here. In retaliation, many local boys are talking about how she herself cannot make it, and how ang mohs have very much lower standards with regards to local girls (as compared to local men). This is pretty childish as well, and actually serves to prove her point more than anything else. But then this sort of behaviour is certainly NOT confined to young asian males.
4. Her upbringing
I think no one will contest the fact that GENERALLY speaking, well adjusted responsible children come from respectable homes. Again, lets talk about the general rule rather than the exceptions. This is probably the reason why people started attacking her parents. Unfortunately, in this case, I do think she is an exception to the rules, and her parents are not to blame. I always have to remind myself that I do not own my children they are individuals in their own right, and after I have tried my best to bring them up, they become responsible for their own life choices.
5. Her knowledge of the Bible and Christianity
I think her concept of grace is all wrong. Mattlock seems to have a firmer grasp of the human condition (ie we are all filthy scoundrels who have no right to judge one another) than she does. Grace is free, but it is not cheap. Romans 6:1 says it all: Are we to go on sinning so that grace may abound? God forbid!
6. Freedom of speech
I think this is a non issue here. No one has denied her freedom of speech. If nothing else, she has demonstrated a basic truth that freedom of speech carries with it the need for responsibility and discretion, otherwise the personal fallout will be severe, as she is finding out to her dismay.
7. Her personal ethos
She has claimed that her aim in life is to do whatever she likes, as long as she does not hurt the ones she holds dear. The problem is that she is doing just that (ie hurting those who love her). Her parents must be very sad. I am not referring to the shame of having brought up a daughter like her, but the sadness they must feel that she has chosen such a self-destructive course of life.
In the process of reading the SPG site, something curious just occured to me.
What did her parents object to so much that she pulled the picture off?
What would have bothered them so much that she would remove the picture?
Looking at the site, you would have figured that anything written there is (relatively speaking) as bad or worse than the picture itself.
Funny how things work.
Just thinking aloud.
What did her parents object to so much that she pulled the picture off?
What would have bothered them so much that she would remove the picture?
Looking at the site, you would have figured that anything written there is (relatively speaking) as bad or worse than the picture itself.
Funny how things work.
Just thinking aloud.
ibitemynails
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actually, why are we so interested in her preferences and her life??
if she likes white men, so be it. i sense sour grapes...
if she believes in artistic naked pictures... so be it...
if she likes white men, so be it. i sense sour grapes...
if she believes in artistic naked pictures... so be it...
ibitemynails
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*closetted SPG*
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