Sarajevo to South Dalmatia rejoiced (H series)


wow, how did you get those flares?

the sunray that diverges comes from a strong intense light source (the sun) when it is partially blocked by a sharp edged object (edge of the wall).

the diverging sunrays that spread out in the periphery of the frame, is the result of using a filter, in my case, a rectangular GND filter. i'm not sure if it can be replicated on other round filters, but i postulate that the thickness of the resin filter and its material might have accentuate the sunrays that is otherwise not visible without the filter. it is a particular phenomenon i notice while using the filter when shooting in this circumstance, though it is not always the case, for example if the sun is not bright enough and the foreground is not dark enough.

i suppose you similarly need some kind of different contrast of lighting in order for the break of light to be taken (e.g. light ray cut through a whole of dark clouds, light ray through a small window of super dark dusty rooms)

the bad part abt using these externally protruding filter is they get dirty easily and i ain't using gd quality filters. they are a big no no for night shots or long exposure as the ugly marks shows up. these ugly marks are not visible or not so obvious when the light is bright.

how did get people to pose for you? do you ask them right at the start or do you chat with them first before asking? I am asking because I wish to start exploring taking people photograph next time I travel.

many times we dun understand each other, maybe jsut very simple english or mandarin they knew. like some street photographer (i'm not one actually), i usually make myself and my shooting intention very conspicuous. i dun hide my DSLR and it is strapped on my body (previously using optech chest strap, recently got black rapid side shoulder strap). i wander around my subject and they will become aware of my presence. if i feel that they feel ok towards me, and also looks ok when i approach, i will just smile and gesture. i may do simple chats after photographing rather than chat first then shoot as the transition from chatting to wanting to shoot seems quite abrupt.

it has to do with your personality on which way you prefer to shoot, as well as that of the subjects. the curiosity about each other is one factor and it makes it easier if you are of different race or if the place is unplaque by foreigners. it is also easier if you are deemed less threatening, for examples for female photographers on muslim women, or you dun look like a paparazzi or pervert.

some societies are also more photographic friendly who treats photographers with more respect whereas some places are just unfriendly, or have more racial discrimination, or simply that the people there are wary about photographers. the rampancy of DSLR or DSLR-lookalike prosumers can blur the margins to the public. while professionals are wary of amateurs, amateurs are also wary of snappers, and snappers wary of perverts - as there is difference in approach and intent. if some people holding the same equipment as you do behave in a bad manner, the public will see photographers differently. the west have been so badly hit by this, and from time to time in UK magazines, you can see many photographers in UK complaining abt problems being seen as or directly accused of being terrorists, perverts, pedophiles or paparazzi with zero basis. one guy was scolded a pervert while using a tele to shoot a squirrel simply becos another middle aged women thinks she is in the frame. it can be very very traumatizing for some people, esp if he himself is a staunch believer against those bad practices but he himself being accuse as such.

generally you have to take extra precautions for the west and the middle east. SEA, india and east asia are more friendly to portraits and you can start off here. i think japan is a great place for that. i would one day like to revisit japan and just do lots of streets. you can avoid the racial discrimination or demeaning views you get elsewhere, and also avoid the pay-for-photography habits elsewhere.
 

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artificial beach at lumbarda. note that croatia hardly have any sandy
beaches or rather the seaside are mostly rocky. so those sandy beaches
are mostly reclaimed and artificial, and are usually small.

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split: cathedral of st domnius. with only simple metal railings, a staircase is
built up the clock tower and it just dun feel that safe. as it can be seen,
the japanese tourists are clinging to their life to whatever support they can
get as they come down. by the way, a notice was put up there, something
like climb at your own risk

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Risk? There is no risk at all :). After observing your photos of light rays, I come to conclude this is something that Canon lenses cannot do. Nikkor handles flare better.


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another silhouette shot at vrboska

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This is something that I cannot remember we did. Glad to see this.
 

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artificial beach at lumbarda. note that croatia hardly have any sandy
beaches or rather the seaside are mostly rocky. so those sandy beaches
are mostly reclaimed and artificial, and are usually small.

Did you use a soft edge GND here? the blue is out of this world. You pictures always have such deep colour sat. Delicious. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the tip/advice on street photography. Indeed, I would like to do Japan again.
 

Did you use a soft edge GND here? the blue is out of this world. You pictures always have such deep colour sat. Delicious. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the tip/advice on street photography. Indeed, I would like to do Japan again.

yes, 2 stop soft edge. but then 1 stop with even softer gradient might look better. i have always wonder why not have inbuilt GND and ND in DSLR.... nobody else seem to have such wishes....

normally i will prefer not to have this saturated blue for landscape, but in this case i thought it stands out well against the subject in the light, hence i increased the vibrancy (one of the function) when i did raw conversion.
 

the whole set is really amazing! :thumbsup:
 

eh... ok.... then who is that in the picture? dun tell me ... :o

that's the beauty of photography, serves as reminder of moments from the past.


i have always wonder why not have inbuilt GND and ND in DSLR.... nobody else seem to have such wishes....

There has been lenses with built-in ND and colour filters.

http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/r_system/lenses/3796.html
 

the sunray that diverges comes from a strong intense light source (the sun) when it is partially blocked by a sharp edged object (edge of the wall).

the diverging sunrays that spread out in the periphery of the frame, is the result of using a filter, in my case, a rectangular GND filter. i'm not sure if it can be replicated on other round filters, but i postulate that the thickness of the resin filter and its material might have accentuate the sunrays that is otherwise not visible without the filter. it is a particular phenomenon i notice while using the filter when shooting in this circumstance, though it is not always the case, for example if the sun is not bright enough and the foreground is not dark enough.

i suppose you similarly need some kind of different contrast of lighting in order for the break of light to be taken (e.g. light ray cut through a whole of dark clouds, light ray through a small window of super dark dusty rooms)

the bad part abt using these externally protruding filter is they get dirty easily and i ain't using gd quality filters. they are a big no no for night shots or long exposure as the ugly marks shows up. these ugly marks are not visible or not so obvious when the light is bright.



many times we dun understand each other, maybe jsut very simple english or mandarin they knew. like some street photographer (i'm not one actually), i usually make myself and my shooting intention very conspicuous. i dun hide my DSLR and it is strapped on my body (previously using optech chest strap, recently got black rapid side shoulder strap). i wander around my subject and they will become aware of my presence. if i feel that they feel ok towards me, and also looks ok when i approach, i will just smile and gesture. i may do simple chats after photographing rather than chat first then shoot as the transition from chatting to wanting to shoot seems quite abrupt.

it has to do with your personality on which way you prefer to shoot, as well as that of the subjects. the curiosity about each other is one factor and it makes it easier if you are of different race or if the place is unplaque by foreigners. it is also easier if you are deemed less threatening, for examples for female photographers on muslim women, or you dun look like a paparazzi or pervert.

some societies are also more photographic friendly who treats photographers with more respect whereas some places are just unfriendly, or have more racial discrimination, or simply that the people there are wary about photographers. the rampancy of DSLR or DSLR-lookalike prosumers can blur the margins to the public. while professionals are wary of amateurs, amateurs are also wary of snappers, and snappers wary of perverts - as there is difference in approach and intent. if some people holding the same equipment as you do behave in a bad manner, the public will see photographers differently. the west have been so badly hit by this, and from time to time in UK magazines, you can see many photographers in UK complaining abt problems being seen as or directly accused of being terrorists, perverts, pedophiles or paparazzi with zero basis. one guy was scolded a pervert while using a tele to shoot a squirrel simply becos another middle aged women thinks she is in the frame. it can be very very traumatizing for some people, esp if he himself is a staunch believer against those bad practices but he himself being accuse as such.

generally you have to take extra precautions for the west and the middle east. SEA, india and east asia are more friendly to portraits and you can start off here. i think japan is a great place for that. i would one day like to revisit japan and just do lots of streets. you can avoid the racial discrimination or demeaning views you get elsewhere, and also avoid the pay-for-photography habits elsewhere.

I never knew that a rectangular GND filter can give such an effect... thanks for explaining :)
And you've a nice series of photos. Are your vignettes added during PP?
 

yes, 2 stop soft edge. but then 1 stop with even softer gradient might look better. i have always wonder why not have inbuilt GND and ND in DSLR.... nobody else seem to have such wishes....

normally i will prefer not to have this saturated blue for landscape, but in this case i thought it stands out well against the subject in the light, hence i increased the vibrancy (one of the function) when i did raw conversion.

hi zoossh
i want to ask about your "2 stop soft edge" filter..
it means the effect is to gave outer frame soft image/blur? or darken the edge by 2 stop?
not really understand about filters.. the one that i know is only the normal GND ( like the tianya brand one.. gradation from light to dark.. is it soft edge filter? )
 

the whole set is really amazing! :thumbsup:
thanks.

There has been lenses with built-in ND and colour filters.
http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/r_system/lenses/3796.html
yah, but can never afford a leica dslr with AF lenses.

I never knew that a rectangular GND filter can give such an effect... thanks for explaining :) And you've a nice series of photos. Are your vignettes added during PP?

more likely due to the thickness and position of the filter from the lens, rather than its GND effect. the gradual vignette comes from the GND effect on the top, sometimes the sky also have a natural gradient when there is a sun in the frame. the edges on the side vignette due to the wide angle. i may also pp to modify the vignette, rubbing them off or adding more as deemed appropriate.

i want to ask about your "2 stop soft edge" filter..
it means the effect is to gave outer frame soft image/blur? or darken the edge by 2 stop?
not really understand about filters.. the one that i know is only the normal GND ( like the tianya brand one.. gradation from light to dark.. is it soft edge filter? )

the darkest portion of the "grey-out" area reduced by 2 stop, if i include the darkest part of the filter over the lens. the dark part of the filter gradually becomes clear. if the transition is gradual, it is soft from very dark to dark to slightly dark to clear. if the transition is abrupt, it is hard with most part of the top part of the filter being almost equally dark before it suddenly change from very dark to clear. this is just a concept, there is no quantification of hard edge or soft edge. mine is tianya 2stop soft edge like what u know

go to post 15 of this thread. you can read more
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458016
 

Thanks for explanation Zoossh,
i thought there's a filter that can make the edge of the photos a bit softer and darker...
i like that kind of effect, like the one that i can see in some of your photos like no. 40..
cheers :)
 

Thanks for explanation Zoossh,
i thought there's a filter that can make the edge of the photos a bit softer and darker...
i like that kind of effect, like the one that i can see in some of your photos like no. 40..
cheers :)

you can post process to make edges softer and darker, however the darkening on the edges done by pp does not cut down flare like filters do and hence does not bring out the colors as well as filters does.

some old schoolers smear clear vasoline onto their clear filters, and that can create blurring effects and can be "customised". there can be a certain texture to this blurring. other way of creating blurring include using lenses like lensbabies or tilt-shift. with normal lenses, you can make use of narrow DOF, which is the case in #40. there is of cos pp - but the effect is not exactly the same, just like vinyl vs cd, or real wood vs printed wooden-pattern wallpaper.
 

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cream cheese, taken in restaurant in sarajevo. focus is on the leave. narrow
DOF plus peripheral blurring on processing. smeared out the shadows to give
a diffuse lit appearance

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one of the matyrs during siege of sarajevo buried in the kovaci cemetry.
picture shows a bosnian youth. obelix-like tombs are in islamic styles.

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buildings at the western end of the city.

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baby cat at korcula. i can never get cats as nice as babykailan and nightmare
does. maybe i'm just a dog person, not a cat person, but that saying, i'm no
better at taking dogs. check out baobao and beibei from babykailan.

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boutiques like this laces itself tightly with the diocletan palace complex, an
ancient roman ruins. split is a nice place (together with dubrovnik) that i
would recommend young ladies who wanted some urban leisure just next
to some reminscent antiquity. guys wise, not much of difference, unless
you want to go in for some air con...

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small port at vrboska bay, hvar island. despite of taking it underexposed,
still can't help much about the highlights which just dun look good even
when post processed. the tonal discrepancy can't be helped, and if i wait
even later, the light will be bad and the colors/high ISO noise will all ruin
the pic.

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waterfall, i think shot at 200mm tele to isolate as the strong backlit cannot
be suppressed by grad ND.

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