S5Pro - is it here yet


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just got mine..hehe..still :confused: wif the menu..time for RTFM..:D

Welcome to the S5 Pro camp!

I am loving mine every minute. Have been playing with my S5 Pro for 2 days now, together with the SB-800 and MB-D200. I have the admit that after switching from Nikon, the menu needs some getting used to.

The S5 Pro is definitely a league of its own. Regardless of what other CSers speculate about the '6MP vs. 12MP' argument, I think either one is good. In fact, 6MP is good enough for my daily work.
 

From the BS section of CS, looks like the current trends are as such:

Many have decided to dump S2 Pro, D200 or D80 to buy the S5 Pro
or,
Wait for better offerings from other S3 Pro owners since the S5 Pro will push down its price.
 

From the BS section of CS, looks like the current trends are as such:

Many have decided to dump S2 Pro, D200 or D80 to buy the S5 Pro
or,
Wait for better offerings from other S3 Pro owners since the S5 Pro will push down its price.

not necessarily these sellers are moving to s5pro. they could be selling in anticipation of FF? ;)

(okie... for the trolls out there, IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR ANYONE TO GET INTO ANOTHER FF DEBATE!!)

as blazer_workz and u rightly pointed out, some nikon users will
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in frustration quite a fair bit with the GUI.

me? i'm waiting for some place to stock the HU3 software b4 going to try it out further... :think:
 

Must say I am very impressed with the S5. Fuji must be doing something right with their unique "honeycomb" pattern CCD. For those who are interested in exactly how the Fuji image quality is different, and what the CCD is doing, I have come across an interesting explanation by a poster in dpreview that i would like to share here. (An official explanation from Fuji would help, but I have not been able to find any.) To me, at least, it helps explain that the 12mp S5 output resolution is an interpolated one, and therefore will not be equal to say a D2x 12mp of actual resolution (ie hardware). But from what I can see so far, Fuji engineers are very very good at squeezing all the info from the sensor.

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"RAW files are always 6mp, but those 6mp are bayer pattern and (for lack of better analogy) rotated at 45 degrees. The only way to display a 45 degree rotated matrix on a non rotated device (your display e.g., or a jpeg or tiff or any other bitmap file) without loosing information is to pad it exactly sqrt(2) times in each direction (vertical + horizontal), such that the total image is twice the size of the original rotated image.

As you rotate, though you do not loose any information in vertical and horizontal dimensions, you have also created some interpolated information in diagonal dimensions, and so at a per-pixel level your image may appear softer.

When demosaicing, the raw conversion software allows you to choose whether you want to just do the rotation w/o loosing the information in vertical and horizontal axes, thus increasing the size of the resulting bitmap to 12mp or to then interpolate the image down to a size you desire, such as 6mp - the image will loose some vertical and horizontal information, but will appear sharper at a per-pixel level.
With S3 and S5, if you shoot with DR more than 100%, you also get a second set of 6mp 45 degree rotated matrix, which is exposed at 2 stops less than the first set. Same demosaicing and rotation operaions are performed on it, and the results are blended into the first set.
This generally does not increase resolution, but rather adds to the dynamic range of the image. It is as if you had shot several times on a tripod with different exposures, but w/o the spacial movement that might occur had you actually shot 2 raw images one after another, since they are acquired at the same time.


Whether DR are or are not used for resolution is an interesting question. I haven't played with S3 and S5 raw files yet ( i looked a little bit at the content of S3 file, but not enough to arrive to any conclusions).

The real answer depends on 2 things, and i don't have solid facts on those:
1. Whether the R and S pixels share the same microlens - if they share the same microlens, there is almost no way one can extract extra detail from that, at least not real detail.
2. If they do not share the same microlens, there is a chance to extract some extra resolution, but this will only be achievable in the midtones - where the information from both sensors is not clipped and can provide usefull input.
3. If 2 is correct, it will take quite a bit of work from raw converter software makers (quite a bit of issues to deal with, noise, false detail, etc), and i am not sure if anyone actually does it."

Posted by Moshe Vainer (at dpreview.com)

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the np150 battery i ordered arrived today. going down to collect it in a while :lovegrin:
 

sb 400 can be used on s5 right?
manual did not state ..
 

Tried the SB-400 on the S5pro, it works.
 

sb 400 can be used on s5 right?
manual did not state ..

as long as the flash is iTTL, it works on the s5pro since its iTTL-enable.

buying liao ah, simon80? ;p

tried the s5pro on a wedding shoot recently....no digital touch up...

nicely done! hehe... aren't u glad u din sell it? :thumbsup:
 

nicely done! hehe... aren't u glad u din sell it? :thumbsup:


ya...the colours are equally nice compared to s3pro... except that the cam now weighs heavier with the md200 compared to my beloved s3 pro...
 

as long as the flash is iTTL, it works on the s5pro since its iTTL-enable.

buying liao ah, simon80? ;p

not yet .. but most likely
i still waiting for 'special insider trading' - agent now no stock
 

not yet .. but most likely
i still waiting for 'special insider trading' - agent now no stock

heh... the s5 seems to be selling pretty well since its launch. even the batts are out of stock. :p
 

I've got my spare battery from CP Peninsula today.
 

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