[Rumours] - Sony mirrorless E-system

[Dominum]

this statement sounds contradictory. can elaborate? M4/3 not same as m4/3?

there is a adapter for many different make of lenses for m4/3 format, so there are lots of lenses available to m4/3 users. the only gripe i have about it is the 2x crop. 4/3 and m4/3 format have been around for quite sometime already, yet the aps-c has not killed off the 4/3 or m4/3 family. in fact there are rumors that fuji is throwing its hat into the m4/3 arena. maybe nikon and canon too. time will tell if these rumors are true.

Basically you can't mount rangefinder lenses on M4/3 because of the huge mirror.

 

[madmacs]

Basically you can't mount rangefinder lenses on M4/3 because of the huge mirror.

M4/3 is not micro 4/3? m4/3 no mirror leh.

 

[mdzmr]

:think:

Basically you can't mount rangefinder lenses on M4/3 because of the huge mirror.

What the different between M4/3 and m4/3 and also micro4/3?:think:

What that huge mirror?:think: I thought m4/3 system is mirrorless. So why RF lens cannot mount on m4/3?:think:

 

[azul123]

4/3 was never successful - only ever achieving low single digit market share. 4/3 cameras and lenses were not really any smaller or cheaper than aps-c even though they had a smaller sensor. It was a good move by panasonic and olympus to move to m4/3. m4/3 will basically kill off 4/3. I don't think you'll see another 4/3 camera from Panasonic, and I think only one or two more Olympus 4/3 (basically ones that were already designed and nearing production - if they aren't killed off before release).

The Japanese makers pay a lot of attention to their home market and if you look at 2009 sales in Japan - Panasonic is in 3rd place (behind Canon and Nikon) in 2009, with their m4/3 models. One issue I have with m4/3 at the moment is their high price (they get away with it for now since they're the only game in town) - look at the features they provide as compared to entry level DSLRs and it doesn't justify their price (the ep-2 is twice the price of the Pentax Kx !). But with the success of Panasonic, you'll see a lot more competition in the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera market - with Samsung, Sony and Nikon to bring in their models this year - which is good for consumers (Canon is surprisingly quiet, they might end up being last to this market, or they've kept the leaks at bay).

Agree with your post, can't wait to see what Nikon/Canon/Sony has to offer in their upcoming mirrorless models. For now, I am holding off any purchases till more is known.

../azul123

 

[Dominum]

M4/3 is not micro 4/3? m4/3 no mirror leh.

Sorry i meant 4/3

 

[TME]

(Canon is surprisingly quiet, they might end up being last to this market, or they've kept the leaks at bay).

I have a feeling that for this segment Canon got caught out...

 

[cichlid]

So, is the rumour confirmed??

 

[TME]

So, is the rumour confirmed??

It remains a rumor... Sony has never leaked info like other brands like to do... they always announce when they are ready to...

 

[nightpiper]

I have a feeling that for this segment Canon got caught out...

Dun think so. When there's money to be made, Canon will jump in with their guns. In the market, u dun need to be the innovator, juz be an aggressor in marketing & churn out "new" models every 10mths, that shud get u a huge chunk of market share. :lovegrin:

 

[TME]

Dun think so. When there's money to be made, Canon will jump in with their guns. In the market, u dun need to be the innovator, juz be an aggressor in marketing & churn out "new" models every 10mths, that shud get u a huge chunk of market share. :lovegrin:

Not quite... for a mirrorless system which will rely mainly on the LCD for framing, a intuitive user interface becomes paramount... this Canon lags far behind...

 

[obfuscate]

http://www.dcresource.com/news/newsitem.php?id=4096

Erm, no hot shoe, what are they thinking of?

 

[shutterkhai]

http://www.dcresource.com/news/newsitem.php?id=4096

Erm, no hot shoe, what are they thinking of?

well i think we have to be lucky it is only a mock-up..i guess they are still a couple of months from perfecting the NEXs and i guess the lack of it will be brought up by reviewers at the PMA..

 

[nightpiper]

The mock ups look like its not going to look like mini DSLR. Cooool.... :bsmilie: Small & compact is definitely appealing to me. When will the finalise product be announced, that is the question. :lovegrin:

 

[Atarandas]

The mock ups look like its not going to look like mini DSLR. Cooool.... :bsmilie: Small & compact is definitely appealing to me. When will the finalise product be announced, that is the question. :lovegrin:

Yeah , seems like Sony is going down a different route compared to GF1 and Pen. They are simply going to create a PnS , with superior imaging capabilities , with interchangeable lenses , yet so easy to use with the Sony interface into the market. Offering true compactibility with high IQ .

Hopefully the AF matches up as well =)

But from the rumours , the lenses are going to worh a hell lot more +S Hope they have more cheap primes

 

[Agetan]

Hope that Sony will create adaptor to use those beautiful old MD glasses. will buy one if it fits.


Hart

 

[eow]

Yeah , seems like Sony is going down a different route compared to GF1 and Pen. They are simply going to create a PnS , with superior imaging capabilities , with interchangeable lenses , yet so easy to use with the Sony interface into the market. Offering true compactibility with high IQ .

Hopefully the AF matches up as well =)

But from the rumours , the lenses are going to worh a hell lot more +S Hope they have more cheap primes

Af wise..sony will pawn Samsung nx, panny and oly mirrorless system.
the only gripe i had...why no hotshoe?

 

[Yinfinity]

Af wise..sony will pawn Samsung nx, panny and oly mirrorless system.
the only gripe i had...why no hotshoe?

Because you got to buy the larger DSLR for it.
Unlike Olympus and Panasonic which has completely given up its DSLR market, Sony still has its own DSLRs to sell. It makes sense. Let the portable cambodies be slim and the serious ones handle the more demanding works.

I think it is the promise of Carl Zeiss Lenses and on sensor phase detection that will really pawn the M4/3 and Sammy.

BTW the leaked specs for NEX3&5 seem more likely the specs for the two new APSC-DSLRS as only one E-mount mockup was displayed the the PMA.

Anyway, if these specs were really for the E-mount then the 11 point AF is a telltale sign that the E-mount will have on-sensor phase detection.

NEX 3
14mp APS-C CMOS
support RAW
3′ LCD，920K
11 point AF
ISO 200 to12800
720p Mp4 and AVCHD
support SDHC

NEX 5
14mp APS-C CMOS
Support RAW
3′ LCD，920K
11 point AF
ISO 200 to 12800
1080/24p Mp4 and AVCHD
Support SDHC

 

[zcf]

Hope that Sony will create adaptor to use those beautiful old MD glasses. will buy one if it fits.


Hart

Even if Sony don't make one, other generic one will develop that.

 

[android17]

In an interview with dpreview Masashi Imamura (President of Sony’s Personal Imaging and Sound Business group) said that “the company’s relationship with Carl Zeiss will extend to lenses designed for the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera”


Carl Zeiss E mount lenses on the way :bsmilie:

 

[NazgulKing]

I think it is the promise of Carl Zeiss Lenses and on sensor phase detection that will really pawn the M4/3 and Sammy.

Erm. You can mount Carl Zeiss, Voigtlander and Leica lenses on M4/3 with the relevant mount adapter. Even with the crop issue, you can do it pretty well.