Our money is precious. What's wrong with asking if there are cheaper alternatives? Photography being an expensive hobby does not mean one has to pay through the nose every time, especially at times when one can help themself, of course, with help from fellow csers. Nobody has the right to bash another person for such in intent. Why should you? What kind of contribution are you trying to make from this?
Replaced my DSLR SD card cover for $30
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Our money is precious. What's wrong with asking if there are cheaper alternatives? Photography being an expensive hobby does not mean one has to pay through the nose every time, especially at times when one can help themself, of course, with help from fellow csers. Nobody has the right to bash another person for such in intent. Why should you? What kind of contribution are you trying to make from this?
tunge
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so may i ask what u r trying to tell us through that statement?
that photography is only for the rich? that people on a tight budget have no right to even seek an opinion of cheaper alternatives?
have been enjoying myself in clupsnap n learnt alot but tonight i've been really disappointed with the attitute of the moderators here and the kind of condescending replies they give
before hand was told its a simple job wont have much dismantling, so i thought the cover itself cost $30. When i reached home then i saw its indicated as $3 for the cover.
if you notice this was quoted by me as a TS. I was kind of disappointed by this reply, somemore from a moderator. I was just sourcing for a cheaper part so that i can diy myself instead of paying $25 for labour. I dont think there's anything wrong in this. Being a moderator should set a good example. :thumbsd: Anyway please lock this thread i will find my own way. I assume this is how a poor man should work out, instead of posting here and get some unnecessary remarks
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night86mare
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this is SOP for all the servicing centres... be it camera, electronics, once warranty is over..
let's look at it this way, if they made labour free and charged you only for parts, they will have to absorb cost for the auntie sitting at the desk, the uncle sweeping the floor. opening the servicing centre involves more than one person. not to mention electric bills, water utility bills, the operating costs goes on and on.
if they don't charge people who have their cameras repaired (which is more apt , imho) then they will have to pass on the costs by another way - and what way is this, you can think of it yourself. and that has an added problem - moral hazard, which means that since repair costs are going to be cheap, users will just happily misuse their cameras... and then they have to pass on additional costs ad infinitum. it's not an impossible scenario.
hope you understand what i'm driving at.
let's look at it this way, if they made labour free and charged you only for parts, they will have to absorb cost for the auntie sitting at the desk, the uncle sweeping the floor. opening the servicing centre involves more than one person. not to mention electric bills, water utility bills, the operating costs goes on and on.
if they don't charge people who have their cameras repaired (which is more apt , imho) then they will have to pass on the costs by another way - and what way is this, you can think of it yourself. and that has an added problem - moral hazard, which means that since repair costs are going to be cheap, users will just happily misuse their cameras... and then they have to pass on additional costs ad infinitum. it's not an impossible scenario.
hope you understand what i'm driving at.
ortega
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The company must not be losing money in order to stay open so that they can continue to import the parts that you and I need,
rental is another consideration, to have a nice place in a convenient location for it's customers cost money,
manpower is yet another consideration, to have the manpower not only in the front line but also in the back end which we do not see also costs lots of money, if you find fault with the company for staying in the black would be selfish and a disservice to all their customers.
Don't be selfish and just think of your $25 when you abused your camera
rental is another consideration, to have a nice place in a convenient location for it's customers cost money,
manpower is yet another consideration, to have the manpower not only in the front line but also in the back end which we do not see also costs lots of money, if you find fault with the company for staying in the black would be selfish and a disservice to all their customers.
Don't be selfish and just think of your $25 when you abused your camera
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ortega
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Don't put words In my mouth. I am not rich too you know, but it is a fact, am I right? I don't go around banging my camera about so that I can complain about the high cost of labour. Look after your equipment and you would not have to replace anything. Simple right?
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well get used to it. without the labour costs they they would charge more for sensor cleaning, retail price of the cameras will be higher, etc. Why? Cause of the overheads. They have to pay everyone on their payroll. Not say no sales or repairs then don't pay technicians or sales people. Furthermore, they can choose not to breakdown the costs to you. At least they practise some form of transparency.
and yes. bro night86mare is correct. without the 'penalty', more people will abuse their cameras physically, or not take good care of it. For example, if it's free to clean fungus growths off your equipment, would you get a dry cabinet? I guess not. well, at least I wouldn't.
photography is not for the rich. but it is the same as any other hobby. it is how much interest in it and how much effort, time and money you're going to put in. even if you buy a lens that costs 10k, you don't take time to shoot with the lens, it's useless. to avoid spending un-necessary money, why not take good care of your equipment in the first place?
and yes. bro night86mare is correct. without the 'penalty', more people will abuse their cameras physically, or not take good care of it. For example, if it's free to clean fungus growths off your equipment, would you get a dry cabinet? I guess not. well, at least I wouldn't.
photography is not for the rich. but it is the same as any other hobby. it is how much interest in it and how much effort, time and money you're going to put in. even if you buy a lens that costs 10k, you don't take time to shoot with the lens, it's useless. to avoid spending un-necessary money, why not take good care of your equipment in the first place?
wildcat
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So that means once one becomes a moderator, one ceases to stop being a normal person? Or that one should act holier than thou?
I don't know chngpe01 personally but have met him a number of times from the events he organizes for Nikon and CS at SAM. I'm surprise you can answer like that also if you know him.
It's a simple answer. Don't break stuffs, don't pay for stuffs. Want service, pay for it. Want self servicing, sure go ahead - there's Google and the forum, but if post in forum, then expect others to reply and give their own opinions. And not just stuff the replies as a "mod should be holier than us" thing.
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the minimum labor charge is $25.00, so if a screw cost $0.50, you still have to pay $ labor charge plus parts plus GST.
I have visit NSC many times, sending cameras, lenses and flash units for repair, the cost range from $20~$30 to a few hundreds, tho sometime I may felt heartache becos of the money spent, but I'm happy that at least I able to have my gear fixed and use them again.
don't complain too much, learn to look at the brighter side of life, money spent, you can always earn back, but not many other things in your life are dispensable.
complain to much do no good to you, it is time for you to move on.
I have visit NSC many times, sending cameras, lenses and flash units for repair, the cost range from $20~$30 to a few hundreds, tho sometime I may felt heartache becos of the money spent, but I'm happy that at least I able to have my gear fixed and use them again.
don't complain too much, learn to look at the brighter side of life, money spent, you can always earn back, but not many other things in your life are dispensable.
complain to much do no good to you, it is time for you to move on.
wildcat
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Yes, and they all have their own styles and different points of views. Can't say I agree with some of their methods at some time, but I don't find anything wrong in this case. Afterall, none of them closed the thread, none of them gave infractions and warnings. They're just posting their views as any of us would.
So why bring the fact that they're moderators into the picture?
ortega
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make a guess on the cost if you did not have a Nikon office in Singapore to have all these here for you
Cost of time locating the office/country to order the SD Card cover
Cost of talking to the office to order and transferring the money
Cost of SD Card cover
Cost of shipping in the SD Card Cover
Amount of time for the SD Card cover to be shipped to singapore and to you
Cost of your time to do all this and fix it, considering that you did not have any training
Cost of time locating the office/country to order the SD Card cover
Cost of talking to the office to order and transferring the money
Cost of SD Card cover
Cost of shipping in the SD Card Cover
Amount of time for the SD Card cover to be shipped to singapore and to you
Cost of your time to do all this and fix it, considering that you did not have any training
ortega
Moderator
that is mainly because i use nikon and i surf the nikon forums to look see look see
I do know that catchlights & chngpe01 are also Nikon users. Not totally sure what ed9119 uses, but i dont think it is a nikon
Dafansu-> I can truly understand your concern, bcos I'm a DIY person. Just to share, I had purchased parts direct from Nikon centre, if you know exactly where is the problem, and the specific part for the replacement. There should be no labour charge with just spare part sales. They can even order for you if it's not available in their warehouse.
In fact, this apply not just for photography, but on any reparable equipment or items, be it air-con, tv, home appliances, hifi, cars, etc. etc. Usually, the distributors will have a spare part sales counter to serve this purpose.
So, do give them a call and check for the parts availability if you are confident to perform the replacement yourself before you go down. It can really save hell lots of money, trust me.
Cheers!
Mod PE, Mod Ortega and myself are long term Nikon users, I believe Mod ED uses Canon, cos saw his Canon flash units posted in the lighting forum.
it maybe a simple query, but I guess many people missing the big picture, hence we are here.
luna_sea83
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I suggest this thread shd be locked
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