Rashkae said:
I own the R1 for a couple of weeks now.
You may like to view of the test shots taken.
Images may be just a tag soft on the monitor but it produce razor sharp pictures
when printed on A3 paper. http://www.pbase.com/u797832
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I own the R1 for a couple of weeks now.
You may like to view of the test shots taken.
Images may be just a tag soft on the monitor but it produce razor sharp pictures
when printed on A3 paper. http://www.pbase.com/u797832
kahheng said:
Ah. Paiseh. Yes, Original.
I think this is a full-res pic:
http://www.pbase.com/u797832/image/52304003
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http://www.sony.com.sg/Sony_New/service&support/announcements/announcement.html
take a look, R1 firmware update
take a look, R1 firmware update
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Rashkae said:
What i meant was that I wouldn't bother to buy a camera if it has usable ISO up to ISO 400 when it is supposed to have a range of up to ISO 3200. That's disappointing isn't it?
To me, a full-frame sensor should not produce this kind of noise at ISO800:
http://www.pbase.com/u797832/image/52287636http://www.pbase.com/u797832/image/52287636
All said and done, ISO is only one aspect of this great camera. If shooting at ISO1600 usable is not important to your photography, then it shouldn't be an issue at all.
Given the "Highly recommended" conclusion, it's interesting to point out that the reviewer is so enamoured with the lens on the R1 that he forgets that he has himself discovered the following rather fatal flaws with the camera:
*In-camera image processor not making most of captured data (demosaicing, sharpening)
- he even says this earlier at the bottom of the R1 RAW versus 350D RAW comparison page: " It's a pity the DSC-R1's in-camera processing couldn't take better advantage of the resolution being delivered by the lens/sensor combination."
[So it has ten not very sharp, not very clear, hence not very good megapixels when you shoot using the in-camera JPEG - and we know it's a practically useless on-the-go RAW shooting camera because of the 9 sec RAW file write speed - do check out how incredibly capable this camera actually is in RAW when you compare the ginormous difference between in-camera JPEG and RAW in his comparison page]
All very amusing.
*Ridiculous maximum 3 frame buffer for continuous JPEG and no continuous RAW
[er, this is already 2005, and you'd expect the specs on such a camera to be a LOT better]
*Excessively large RAW files (20 MB, 9 sec write to CF)
[ditto]
*Below average write speeds to Compact Flash
*Limited range of image parameter adjustments
*No control over in-camera high ISO noise reduction
Check out how fuzzy the details are in all the new sample shots. Esp. check out the heavily textured scene of the people sitting/sleeping on the common bench next to the textured wall, as well as the picture of the brick building (one of the last few shots). It would have been helpful if he shot these in RAW and did a comparison as well.
Borat says:" No self-respecting Kazakh will use a camera with a marvellous lens that takes soft pictures. Good Kazakhs will laugh at the reviewer."
*In-camera image processor not making most of captured data (demosaicing, sharpening)
- he even says this earlier at the bottom of the R1 RAW versus 350D RAW comparison page: " It's a pity the DSC-R1's in-camera processing couldn't take better advantage of the resolution being delivered by the lens/sensor combination."
[So it has ten not very sharp, not very clear, hence not very good megapixels when you shoot using the in-camera JPEG - and we know it's a practically useless on-the-go RAW shooting camera because of the 9 sec RAW file write speed - do check out how incredibly capable this camera actually is in RAW when you compare the ginormous difference between in-camera JPEG and RAW in his comparison page]
All very amusing.
*Ridiculous maximum 3 frame buffer for continuous JPEG and no continuous RAW
[er, this is already 2005, and you'd expect the specs on such a camera to be a LOT better]
*Excessively large RAW files (20 MB, 9 sec write to CF)
[ditto]
*Below average write speeds to Compact Flash
*Limited range of image parameter adjustments
*No control over in-camera high ISO noise reduction
Check out how fuzzy the details are in all the new sample shots. Esp. check out the heavily textured scene of the people sitting/sleeping on the common bench next to the textured wall, as well as the picture of the brick building (one of the last few shots). It would have been helpful if he shot these in RAW and did a comparison as well.
Borat says:" No self-respecting Kazakh will use a camera with a marvellous lens that takes soft pictures. Good Kazakhs will laugh at the reviewer."
When I tried the R1 at Sitex, I can't say that I like the look and feel of the camera but after seeing the photos posted above, I must say I am beginning to like this cam. I don't know if we are nitpicking by picking out all sorts of flaws with it but I think the performance of this cam is more than respectable. The colours look really good and I am pretty confident that they will come out even better in print, which seems to be the case too for my F828. The prints always impress me more than on-screen pics.
My main lament is that it has no video feature now, which I find very useful to have in a digital cam. That will probably be the reason why I will continue to keep my F828, both as a backup to the DSLR and also for its video capabilities.
Having said this, I must also add that the new age prosumers must also be able to closely match the performance of the entry level DSLRs, as they are competing in the same price bracket. Unlike the old days when the price gap is much bigger.
The R1 is probably no revolutionary product but I still think it has still managed to take a small step forward from its predecessor.
My main lament is that it has no video feature now, which I find very useful to have in a digital cam. That will probably be the reason why I will continue to keep my F828, both as a backup to the DSLR and also for its video capabilities.
Having said this, I must also add that the new age prosumers must also be able to closely match the performance of the entry level DSLRs, as they are competing in the same price bracket. Unlike the old days when the price gap is much bigger.
The R1 is probably no revolutionary product but I still think it has still managed to take a small step forward from its predecessor.
WS Lam has a pretty balanced review of the R1 at
http://www.lam.ws/reviews/cameras/Sony/DSC-R1/
I like his review because he's like me - he shoots all RAW all the time, plus he's a fairly sensible end user. Check out how good this camera is in RAW. I suspect he hasn't even wrung out the best from the unsharpened RAWs yet.
Borat sayz: "Hmm"
http://www.lam.ws/reviews/cameras/Sony/DSC-R1/
I like his review because he's like me - he shoots all RAW all the time, plus he's a fairly sensible end user. Check out how good this camera is in RAW. I suspect he hasn't even wrung out the best from the unsharpened RAWs yet.
Borat sayz: "Hmm"
The R1 is the first compact digital camera with APS sensor size.
Undoubtly, many dSLR owners feel "upset" (cant find a more suitable word) because compact cameras are slowly closing in on the gap between the dSLR and a compact.
Those who owns dSLR would undoubtly be aware of some of the "cons" (most wont admit it, though), things of convenience and fun that compact users have been able to enjoy while SLR users do not. They will say it's worth it, oh well :dunno:
Anyway, the R1 is a good step where people who likes ease of use and convenience, especially those used to using compacts to enjoy great photos.:thumbsup:
Undoubtly, many dSLR owners feel "upset" (cant find a more suitable word) because compact cameras are slowly closing in on the gap between the dSLR and a compact.
Those who owns dSLR would undoubtly be aware of some of the "cons" (most wont admit it, though), things of convenience and fun that compact users have been able to enjoy while SLR users do not. They will say it's worth it, oh well :dunno:
Anyway, the R1 is a good step where people who likes ease of use and convenience, especially those used to using compacts to enjoy great photos.:thumbsup:
Had a feel of the R1 in the sony shop, great and steady to grip at, lcd's really clear, zoom ring feels smooth, noise level definitely one of the best for non-dslr cat. 
Just one nitpick, tried to do a waist level shot, the sensor too sensitive, kept switching to the view finder (was in auto mode).
Just one nitpick, tried to do a waist level shot, the sensor too sensitive, kept switching to the view finder (was in auto mode).
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