questions on 4/3

[rookie86]

hey guys.. i will be getting my e510 soon.. real excitied.. thinking of getting another lens.. maybe a prime. but have some question on choosing 1..

i understand there's adaptors to transform the lense to a 4/3. but how i know which adaptors r suitable for the lens i want to buy?

can i buy any lens than find a suitable adaptor to fit to my cam?

wat should i look out for when i want to buy lens for my cam?

i think my question are abit "blur".. tried to rephase it liao.. but my eng abit cannot make it la... so if u guys don't understand wat i'm asking juz let me know.. i try to use my limited eng to explain my questions..:sweat: thanks man

 

[Alphonse]

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/products/lense.html is the lens that are available in the market for your new E-510 camera. Hi i'm also a E-510 camera user, curious that there is E-520 on the market and you choose E-510. Not to say that E-520 image quality(IQ) is better is just that camera has more interesting features... ...

 

[Mikefellh]

First you should learn the camera and the lenses that come with it. Start with the following sites:
-free online lessons on the E-510, and some basic-advanced photography lessons:
http://www.olympusdigitalschool.com/
-General Olympus E tidbits and useful information:
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/index.html

After that you can learn about the adapters for use on LEGACY (manually controlled focus and manually controlled aperture, non electronic) lenses (you CAN'T use modern lenses for other digital cameras, there's no way to convert the signals):
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/any-lens.html

After which time you are then ready to ask your next questions about using manual lenses.

As for what FourThirds lenses to buy, you have to decide on focal length (do you want wider or closer (tele)), do you want lenses that are better in lower light (more $$$), what's your budget...the most basic question is what are you going to photograph? After using the kit lenses for a while you'll get an idea of some of those answers (or maybe the kit lens is enough for you). Again Wrotniak has a good list of what's available and what's coming:
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/lenses.html

You have to learn how to walk before you can run.

 

[rookie86]

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/products/lense.html is the lens that are available in the market for your new E-510 camera. Hi i'm also a E-510 camera user, curious that there is E-520 on the market and you choose E-510. Not to say that E-520 image quality(IQ) is better is just that camera has more interesting features... ...

yeah. i know... but i'm on a tight budget la.. now 520 is out, 510 is the most suitable cam for my budget already.. if i have the cash i would defnitely go for e520!! thanks for the webby.. will read up and see if i have anymore questions..

 

[rookie86]

First you should learn the camera and the lenses that come with it. Start with the following sites:
-free online lessons on the E-510, and some basic-advanced photography lessons:
http://www.olympusdigitalschool.com/
-General Olympus E tidbits and useful information:
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/index.html

After that you can learn about the adapters for use on LEGACY (manually controlled focus and manually controlled aperture, non electronic) lenses (you CAN'T use modern lenses for other digital cameras, there's no way to convert the signals):
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/any-lens.html

After which time you are then ready to ask your next questions about using manual lenses.

As for what FourThirds lenses to buy, you have to decide on focal length (do you want wider or closer (tele)), do you want lenses that are better in lower light (more $$$), what's your budget...the most basic question is what are you going to photograph? After using the kit lenses for a while you'll get an idea of some of those answers (or maybe the kit lens is enough for you). Again Wrotniak has a good list of what's available and what's coming:
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/lenses.html

You have to learn how to walk before you can run.

hey.. thanks for the webbys.. reading about it now..

so OM lenses are SLR lenses. so with an adapter, u can use it on a DSLR?juz that it's manual focus?

so i can't buy modern lenses like nikon(or other brands) to fit to my e510? even there's an adapter for it?

pls correct me if i'm wrong.. thanks

 

[Mikefellh]

so OM lenses are SLR lenses. so with an adapter, u can use it on a DSLR?juz that it's manual focus?

so i can't buy modern lenses like nikon(or other brands) to fit to my e510? even there's an adapter for it?

pls correct me if i'm wrong.. thanks

OM lenses are manual film lenses that were for Olympus OM film cameras.


I thought I made it clear enough when I said, "After that you can learn about the adaptors for use on LEGACY (manually controlled focus and manually controlled aperture, non electronic) lenses (you CAN'T use modern lenses for other digital cameras, there's no way to convert the signals)."

You CAN use manual Nikon lenses with an adapter BUT you CAN'T use modern electronically controlled lenses. In the old days focus and aperture was all done on the lens mechanically...today's cameras use electronic signals to set the aperture and focus sent by the camera body, and you can't convert those signals between different brands of cameras (at least not yet).

The same goes for electronic flashes...you can use manual and auto flashes with no problems as there's no electronic intelligence involved, but you can't use dedicated or TTL flashes between cameras because they don't understand each other and the pins aren't in the same places.

 

[windwaver]

Yeap, good old days when everything is controlled from the lenses themselves

 

[mskong]

yeah. i know... but i'm on a tight budget la.. now 520 is out, 510 is the most suitable cam for my budget already.. if i have the cash i would defnitely go for e520!! thanks for the webby.. will read up and see if i have anymore questions..

Unless you are a used E510 at a lower price than new unit, the E510 and E520 has not much difference in pricing. You might consider getting few new features in E520.

 

[rookie86]

Unless you are a used E510 at a lower price than new unit, the E510 and E520 has not much difference in pricing. You might consider getting few new features in E520.

yeap.. i getting a used e510.. managed to find 1 that fits my budget...

 

[rookie86]

OM lenses are manual film lenses that were for Olympus OM film cameras.


I thought I made it clear enough when I said, "After that you can learn about the adaptors for use on LEGACY (manually controlled focus and manually controlled aperture, non electronic) lenses (you CAN'T use modern lenses for other digital cameras, there's no way to convert the signals)."

You CAN use manual Nikon lenses with an adapter BUT you CAN'T use modern electronically controlled lenses. In the old days focus and aperture was all done on the lens mechanically...today's cameras use electronic signals to set the aperture and focus sent by the camera body, and you can't convert those signals between different brands of cameras (at least not yet).

The same goes for electronic flashes...you can use manual and auto flashes with no problems as there's no electronic intelligence involved, but you can't use dedicated or TTL flashes between cameras because they don't understand each other and the pins aren't in the same places.

ahhhh.. understood! thanks for the patience man.. that clears my doubts..

 

[cityzensg]

yeap.. i getting a used e510.. managed to find 1 that fits my budget...

I would save up to get a brand new e520 with the extra feature though...
I think it worth the effort.

 

[rookie86]

I would save up to get a brand new e520 with the extra feature though...
I think it worth the effort.

by the time i save up and able to buy the 520, maybe there's a even a better model coming out already.. than i will compare between the 520 and the newer model.. than i will find it more worth while to get the newer model.. than i will save money for the newer model again.. than the cycle keeps going on.. u get wat i mean? so ya.. i juz get the 510 and play with it first... wait till i'm more experiance than i will get a higher end cam.. thanks for the suggestion though... hope to join u guys one day.. cheers :bsmilie:

 

[cityzensg]

by the time i save up and able to buy the 520, maybe there's a even a better model coming out already.. than i will compare between the 520 and the newer model.. than i will find it more worth while to get the newer model.. than i will save money for the newer model again.. than the cycle keeps going on.. u get wat i mean? so ya.. i juz get the 510 and play with it first... wait till i'm more experiance than i will get a higher end cam.. thanks for the suggestion though... hope to join u guys one day.. cheers :bsmilie:

someone is selling off E520 wi 2 lens kit @ $1K

check out the new personal classified B&S section

 

[rookie86]

someone is selling off E520 wi 2 lens kit @ $1K

check out the new personal classified B&S section

nah... 1k out of budget already... anyway i will be getting my 510 this sat.. so not looking at other cams already..

 

[egnaro]

nah... 1k out of budget already... anyway i will be getting my 510 this sat.. so not looking at other cams already..

welcome to the world of Four thirds... anyway E510 is a good cam too... other then some diff like Auto focus at live view, 3.5fps, wireless capability, better Live view colour (these are what i thought of at this moment) not much diff compare to E510 actually.

 

[mskong]

welcome to the world of Four thirds... anyway E510 is a good cam too... other then some diff like Auto focus at live view, 3.5fps, wireless capability, better Live view colour (these are what i thought of at this moment) not much diff compare to E510 actually.

E510 compare with E510? LOL......i think you are referring to E510 vs E520...
agree on the E520 has AF in live view and the wireless capability....but I am not sure live view colour that you are saying....:dunno::dunno::dunno:

i tried other brand camera live view....the oly have no problem getting the colour correctly

 

[egnaro]

E510 compare with E510? LOL......i think you are referring to E510 vs E520...
agree on the E520 has AF in live view and the wireless capability....but I am not sure live view colour that you are saying....:dunno::dunno::dunno:

i tried other brand camera live view....the oly have no problem getting the colour correctly

playback E520 and compare the colour on LCD, obviously E520 and 420 is better. but of cuz when playback in PC, the colour is ok. Sorry I think i should change my sentence to view playback on 520 is better.

 

[olymac]

by the time i save up and able to buy the 520, maybe there's a even a better model coming out already.. than i will compare between the 520 and the newer model.. than i will find it more worth while to get the newer model.. than i will save money for the newer model again.. than the cycle keeps going on.. u get wat i mean? so ya.. i juz get the 510 and play with it first... wait till i'm more experiance than i will get a higher end cam.. thanks for the suggestion though... hope to join u guys one day.. cheers :bsmilie:

You are one sensible dude :thumbsup::thumbsup:

BTW go figure out why lenses don't usually drop in price but camera bodies .....

 

[Mikefellh]

Well, prices have dropped but most of the price of the lens is GLASS, and optical glass costs $$$!

If you want cheaper lenses they could always replace the glass with plastic...like the Holga cameras.

 

[egnaro]

Well, prices have dropped but most of the price of the lens is GLASS, and optical glass costs $$$!

If you want cheaper lenses they could always replace the glass with plastic...like the Holga cameras.

holga? I think i saw 1 holga camera selling at 2000 baht in Thailand.

Mike, this is the lens u talking about?