Post here-pics taken fr S5000, S5600, S9500

[pg12]

maybe u can try to take different type of theme...

shld takan yr camera to get the best out of it. hahaha

i takan it quite jia luct oredi.. i went for the JJ lin junjie concert n shot over 500 plus of 9megapixel shots.. on the whole shot bout 2000 pics wif it oredi.. i hope it wun give up after a while. lol..

 

[Zaknafein]

?!?!?!?!??!
how long is the concert? 2 hrs? 3 hrs?
in that short time u shoot 500 shots?
i think its better if u think a bit before hand and have an idea of how u want the picture to turn out before u press the trigger. dun shoot blindly

 

[pg12]

3 hrs. wats wrong wif shooting so many? shoot more doesnt mean shooting blindly. wif those lighting n quite some distance away, ask me focus sharpy without shaking is oredi quite hard, shoot precisely is virtually impossible.

#1 the dist. between me and the stage.

#2 zooming in all the way.

#3

#4

 

[vbs1979]

3 hrs. wats wrong wif shooting so many? shoot more doesnt mean shooting blindly. wif those lighting n quite some distance away, ask me focus sharpy without shaking is oredi quite hard, shoot precisely is virtually impossible.

#1 the dist. between me and the stage.

#2 zooming in all the way.

#3

#4

hi pg12, zak is trying to mean that when one shoot, try to frame the shots before taking so that it won't look like a snap shot. of course it is quite difficult to shoot every shot with a nice composition, framing blar blar. hence, u will try to take as many shots to choose the best. see my post for the Kosmos in the Event sub-forum. i shot without flash using D70s.

for a 3hr concert, 500 pics is reasonable. I took 250 shots for a 40min performance.

hi zak, i think in such a scenario, a monopod will come in handy. the latter will help to reduce handshake at such low light condition.

advise pg12 to use manual mode instead of aperture or shutter priority bcos sometimes the metering may be wrong. it is normal to have focusing problem as this is one of the limitations of a prosumer as compared to a dslr sys. even my d70s also hunts in low light.

 

[pg12]

haha, didnt noe u are using D70. thot u r a S5000 user. hehz. =p

 

[vbs1979]

haha, didnt noe u are using D70. thot u r a S5000 user. hehz. =p

i also use canon a40, fujifilm S5000, mamiya zm... in addition to d70. different setup for different conditions

 

[Zaknafein]

agree with vbs...
firstly, u shouldnt use aperture/shutter priority
the camera is helping u set F5+ when u should be using F4.9 to get as much light as possible.

but i still disagree with u about shooting fast. 3 hours shooting 500, unless u are shooting burst mode, if not issnt it better to set ur exposure settings, get good focus before u release that shutter? why come home with 500 photos, but with 3/4 of them are unusable due to handshake, wrong exposure etc etc...

take ur time to shoot. u know JJ wont be leaving for the next 3 hours. get into a comfortable position, steady ur hands, lock ur AF and slowly press that shutter release.

 

[pg12]

he dun stand at one spot n stop moving for u. he dances ard quite alot. n i'm not taking fast shots. focus and shoot is wat i did. i dun go ard shooting rubbish or do the burst mode that u mention. i wished i had ample space n time that i can slowly prone down n shoot comfortablely. if 500 for 3hr concert is fast, den i think bro vbs1979 is shooting at SUPER fast?? i guessed u nv do any events or grad ceremonies where need to shoot faster ba. there r times where slow is gd, n times where fast is needed. we r two different kind of 'camera-men' so guess u wun see the things i saw.

 

[Zaknafein]

yes i shoot events before. some events need to shoot fast, yes. but concert? as i said, u know he's going to be there. why rush into pressing that shutter? its not like 1 moment he will be here, next moment he's gone, right?

im not saying ur "shooting rubbish", and there's nothing wrong with doing burst mode. but if ur not getting good results after a while, u should think of how u can improve the results instead of just continue using the same settings. from those 4 pics, all of them were taken at 1/30s with ISO 400. furthermore, u should have used F4.9 to get more light to hit ur sensor.

well, main point here for u is... are u happy with the pics u have taken? if u r, then good for u

 

[Zaknafein]

oh 1 more thing. from the way u are writing... it sounds like u r a bit pissed with what i've said. im not trying to offend anyone here, just trying to share and learn. if i have offended anybody in any way, my appologies.

 

[vbs1979]

he dun stand at one spot n stop moving for u. he dances ard quite alot. n i'm not taking fast shots. focus and shoot is wat i did. i dun go ard shooting rubbish or do the burst mode that u mention. i wished i had ample space n time that i can slowly prone down n shoot comfortablely. if 500 for 3hr concert is fast, den i think bro vbs1979 is shooting at SUPER fast?? i guessed u nv do any events or grad ceremonies where need to shoot faster ba. there r times where slow is gd, n times where fast is needed. we r two different kind of 'camera-men' so guess u wun see the things i saw.

oh 1 more thing. from the way u are writing... it sounds like u r a bit pissed with what i've said. im not trying to offend anyone here, just trying to share and learn. if i have offended anybody in any way, my appologies.

come on guys, there is no need to "flame" each other. re that we are here to learn.

the problem here is different perpectives of views. there is no absolute right or wrong. just like some photographers do not mind "grainy" pics cos they feel it is artistic, but some cannot stand even the slightest of graininest.

You can take an event like an MG gunner or like a sniper. For an MG gunner, one can take many shots to ensure that he wont miss anything (burst mode), of course in such a case maybe only 30-40% of the pics are good. well if u take 500, 150pics will be good. If one are a sharpshooter MG, yr kill rate will be higher. (mine is abt 60%)

For a sniper, u will choose yr target, frame and compose before you shoot. The outcome will be really nice shot but at the expense of missing other opportunities.

As u see, there is no right or wrong in photography, it is the difference in perspective.

Well of course your basics must be correct like focusing, DOF, lighting blar blar...

hope you guys can bury the hatchet and move on. Cheers.

 

[vbs1979]

he dun stand at one spot n stop moving for u. he dances ard quite alot. n i'm not taking fast shots. focus and shoot is wat i did. i dun go ard shooting rubbish or do the burst mode that u mention. i wished i had ample space n time that i can slowly prone down n shoot comfortablely. if 500 for 3hr concert is fast, den i think bro vbs1979 is shooting at SUPER fast?? i guessed u nv do any events or grad ceremonies where need to shoot faster ba. there r times where slow is gd, n times where fast is needed. we r two different kind of 'camera-men' so guess u wun see the things i saw.

S9500 has its limitation when it is working under low light conditions. first, it will have difficulty in focusing. second, the focusing speed will be slow as a result of the low light. (compare to a bright outdoor condition).

from the angle of your shot, u are sitting on the left side facing the stage. quite an acute angle especially if the singer is moving around.

my suggestion:

1) Pre-focus on a point. usu the singer will have a "common" point there he will linger around. hunt for a object near this point and focus lock (half press yr shutter release). when, the singer walks into yr "killing zone", aim at him and depress the shutter release fully. Bang! u get the shot.

2) Increase yr ISO and up your exposure compensation.

3) use the largest aperture size and a faster shutter speed. (to reduce motion blur) [a bit hard since u cant use flash]

4) use spot (close up of face) and evaluative metering (wide angle shot)

my 2 cent view.

 

[yanyewkay]

i believe 9500/5500 have a manual focus mode? after prefocussing switch to MF will save you lots of finger power from holding in the half press position.

 

[pg12]

S9500 has its limitation when it is working under low light conditions. first, it will have difficulty in focusing. second, the focusing speed will be slow as a result of the low light. (compare to a bright outdoor condition).

from the angle of your shot, u are sitting on the left side facing the stage. quite an acute angle especially if the singer is moving around.

my suggestion:

1) Pre-focus on a point. usu the singer will have a "common" point there he will linger around. hunt for a object near this point and focus lock (half press yr shutter release). when, the singer walks into yr "killing zone", aim at him and depress the shutter release fully. Bang! u get the shot.

2) Increase yr ISO and up your exposure compensation.

3) use the largest aperture size and a faster shutter speed. (to reduce motion blur) [a bit hard since u cant use flash]

4) use spot (close up of face) and evaluative metering (wide angle shot)

my 2 cent view.

yo bro, thx for ur advises.

1: i did. prefocus n half press on the button at a pt n wait for him to come into picture. but the moment he slightly sway his body a bit left or right during his dances movement, the pic is blurred le. haha. i did hlaf press n lock the focus thouout the entire concert so u can imagine how tiring the arm is.

2: initially i was using iso200. but find it a bit hard to get sharper shots, so i change to 400. try using wif 800 but it turn out 'quite' grainy thou. so in the end i gave up. hahaz.

3: tele zoom at max will haf a aperture size of bout 4 or something near, but dunno y that night it couldnt get lesser, i didnt play wif manual mode cos no time to slowly check for lighting n stuffs. so dun wan to mess things up if the setting is not correct if i didnt adjust properly. can use flash ah, no prob. i'm using also. just that i didnt go n do some lighting check and adjusting as the lights in the stadium initially is diff thruout the entire show, keep changing color n flicking here n there. usually other events job which i did for fujifilm is just one location so i can be there earlier b4 the event to do some adjusting and tests shots, thats when i will use manual mode so can play ard more.

4: this is an very new concept to me. nv used those b4. so dun wan mess things up during the 3 hr show. hahaz. or else later my gf kill me.

 

[vbs1979]

yo bro, thx for ur advises.

1: i did. prefocus n half press on the button at a pt n wait for him to come into picture. but the moment he slightly sway his body a bit left or right during his dances movement, the pic is blurred le. haha. i did hlaf press n lock the focus thouout the entire concert so u can imagine how tiring the arm is.

2: initially i was using iso200. but find it a bit hard to get sharper shots, so i change to 400. try using wif 800 but it turn out 'quite' grainy thou. so in the end i gave up. hahaz.

3: tele zoom at max will haf a aperture size of bout 4 or something near, but dunno y that night it couldnt get lesser, i didnt play wif manual mode cos no time to slowly check for lighting n stuffs. so dun wan to mess things up if the setting is not correct if i didnt adjust properly. can use flash ah, no prob. i'm using also. just that i didnt go n do some lighting check and adjusting as the lights in the stadium initially is diff thruout the entire show, keep changing color n flicking here n there. usually other events job which i did for fujifilm is just one location so i can be there earlier b4 the event to do some adjusting and tests shots, thats when i will use manual mode so can play ard more.

4: this is an very new concept to me. nv used those b4. so dun wan mess things up during the 3 hr show. hahaz. or else later my gf kill me.

regarding #4 pt, try it on yr gf... use spot n evaluative. compare the shots, u shld see a different.

go concert is to enjoy show, taking pics is secondary.

 

[pg12]

i believe 9500/5500 have a manual focus mode? after prefocussing switch to MF will save you lots of finger power from holding in the half press position.

woo, the manual focus is terrible! haha...

 

[pg12]

regarding #4 pt, try it on yr gf... use spot n evaluative. compare the shots, u shld see a different.

go concert is to enjoy show, taking pics is secondary.

ya, but i didnt realli watch la. just keep focusing n try to take better shots. also dunno how come can take so many. fully used up my 1gb card. anyway i dun realli like him so nvm la.

 

[Zaknafein]

1gb card take 500 shots?
my 2gb card only takes about 400+
i advice u to use the 9mb fine settings.

 

[Zaknafein]

u have quite a few misconceptions....

tele zoom at max will haf a aperture size of bout 4 or something near, but dunno y that night it couldnt get lesser, i didnt play wif manual mode cos no time to slowly check for lighting n stuffs

1stly during low light and max telephoto needed... u should just set it to F4.9. u couldn't get it to F4.9 is becos u are using shutter priority. hence we are advicing u to use manual next time.

i did. prefocus n half press on the button at a pt n wait for him to come into picture. but the moment he slightly sway his body a bit left or right during his dances movement, the pic is blurred le

of cos it will be blurred. lighting is already insufficient, set ur aperture to F5.6, there will be even less light hitting ur image sensor. U already said that JJ "dun stand at one spot n stop moving for u. he dances ard quite alot". u cant expect to get good shots of him using only 1/30. considering u are using max telephoto and JJ dancing around, 1/30 is WAYYYYYY to slow.

woo, the manual focus is terrible! haha...

he didnt meant using manual focus to focus ur subject. u should go try out what yanyewkay has said. he meant, setting manual focus to lock ur focus

 

[Zaknafein]

use the largest aperture size and a faster shutter speed. (to reduce motion blur) [a bit hard since u cant use flash

so dun wan to mess things up if the setting is not correct if i didnt adjust properly. can use flash ah, no prob. i'm using also. just that i didnt go n do some lighting check and adjusting as the lights in the stadium initially is diff thruout the entire show, keep changing color n flicking here n there

are u using ext. flash? if u are not, there's NO CHANCE ur flash will hit JJ's face. u shouldn't be using flash since all its doing is eat up ur batt faster.

hence as u can see, manual exposure will be better in this case. using shutter priority just issnt as reliable and if u think using shutter prioriety has less chance to "mess things up", u should really try manual exposure