This is the 35mm Summilux? Shot wide open?
Just for U bro, Gd Nitez... Maybe too glowy for u...
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Thoth
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albertri said:
Its awesome when using on people. But also quite good if used well for street shots too depending on d situation. I could always stop down if needed but just trying to shoot wide open nowadays. Some shots I've done on street gives very dreamy glowy mood which I find quite nice. Cheers.
There's a $hitload of veiling flare all over the frame. I thought the reason for the megabuck prices of Summilux lenses is because they're supposed to yield high contrast wide open without veiling flare.
No wonder some Leica users give high marks to the CV 35mm 1.2.
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tntrue said:
Nopez. Pre Asph lux r famed for its glows n soft low contrast looks at wide open. Stopping down will minimize d glow till f/2.8 when its gone. Contrast picks up stopping down. Maybe u r talking abt asph lux which is clinically sharp n yield high contrast.
N I think d glow derives from d coma signature of this pre asph lux lens.
cv 35mm is heavvvvy. i'm waiting for SEL35
haha. its still ok for me.. i like the lens and shots taken with it. i also want to have AF lol.
Thanks for the explanation. That'll save me some $$$ in the long run!
So on Leica, it's a "glow," and a desired characteristic. On Nikon (or any other brand), it's "veiling flare," an annoyance that ya just have to live with... ;p
This is indeed a perspective-altering bit of information. Again, sincere thanks for that explanation. :thumbsup:
Anthony Lee
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An example of a head shot wide open on the Lux 35 Pre ASPH, a impromptu shot so din have time to focus fast enuff... Haha
Another shot done on the street, in Orchard Road, also shot wide open on the Lux 35 Pre ASPH...
Last one is shot with FujiLux 35mm f/1.4 ASPH lens...
From these photos, I don't understand the fuss about this "glow". Maybe, you can explain technically what this "glow" is all about and show us an appropriate photo of how it enhances the mood of the photo. This is actually a NEX 7 thread, so, I also need to know how this lens can improve my photos using a CV 35f1.2 or even my Nikkor 28f2.8 ais on a NEX 7 which I am thinking of buying.
Thoth
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Thanks for the explanation. That'll save me some $$$ in the long run!
So on Leica, it's a "glow," and a desired characteristic. On Nikon (or any other brand), it's "veiling flare," an annoyance that ya just have to live with... ;p
This is indeed a perspective-altering bit of information. Again, sincere thanks for that explanation. :thumbsup:
U R most welcome, bro tntrue. Lotz to learn from you on Macro shots. Once I completed my UWA and Standard lenses collection, will move on to do some telephotos and macro shooting on such lenses U R having. Do share your experience and learnings with us ok? Appreciate.
Thoth
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Hi Anthony, the glow here is seen at the perimeter of the subject or light source, a soft glow emitting from the subject or the light source. If you look at this next photo below, in color, the glow is apparent on the lightings and the mannequins. The Summilux Pre ASPH 35mm f/1.4 lens is famed for this characteristic that some may like and some may not. If you do not like it, please dun splurge your money on it and use it to get other lenses that suits your taste and take photos that you will like and keep.
I normally use this lens for B&W shooting as it gives a more soft and dreamy glow to the subject and the photo in overall. A more classic look as compared to the clinical modern sharp and contrasty look on most modern lenses nowadays. Just my own personal prefernce. Below is a B&W shot, wide open on this lens. Thanks.
Anthony Lee
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Personally, I don't the see advantage or benefit of such a lens from the above photos on today's digital sensor. There are hundreds of such legacy lenses available and I am not rich enough to justify a Leica. I have used Pre ASPH lenses for a good part of my life and if I want their true effect, I will continue to shoot film, especially in black and white, and print directly from them without going through the process of digitization. Thanks for your explanation anyway.
U R most welcome, bro tntrue. Lotz to learn from you on Macro shots. Once I completed my UWA and Standard lenses collection, will move on to do some telephotos and macro shooting on such lenses U R having. Do share your experience and learnings with us ok? Appreciate.
Just curious, bro Thoth, IIRC you previously had a 35mm Summicron-M? Did it have this same "glow" at f/2?
Recently I ran across a 50mm Summicron-R that was too good a bargain to pass up, and I was both ecstatic and relieved to see that it had almost no veiling flare on contrasting borders wide open. Same with the CV 35mm, you gotta almost abuse it (shoot f/1.4 or wider at contrasting edges in normal light) to get the veiling flare. Shot properly, it has superb contrast even wide open.
That said, looking at your chessboard photo above, I can see the value of the "glow," and can imagine that a 35mm f/1.4 Nikon Ai-S wouldn't have rendered that shot quite as nicely.
I agree that it's a matter of taste. And extremely helpful to see examples such as the ones you posted.
Thoth
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Haha... I have explained that this glow is from the coma inherent in this lens that gives a Leica signature of these classic legacy lenses and still one of the most popular Leica lenses now. U still can get similar rendering from other legacy lenses but personal feel is that it will look different from Leica's. Like I said, some likes it while some simply detest it. Cheers.
Thoth
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Hi bro tntrue, d Summicron 35 ASPH does not have this kinda glow, nor the Pre ASPH Summicrons. It is only inherent in Pre ASPH Summiluxes. If u r not into such glows, then the summicrons will be a better buy. Better contrast and sharpness with no glow.
The chessboard photo is shot wif my Fujinon XF 35mm f/1.4 ASPH lens and have no such glow actually. It is supposed to render a clinically sharp and modern look as like the ASPH Summiluxes.
End of the day, it's a matter of taste as u said. I like it coz it offers a different rendering, soft and glowy when needed. N if I need modern and clinically sharp rendering, I will use the XF 35mm f/1.4 ASPH lens instead. Both are good in low light situation being f/1.4 but different rendering at this wide aperture.
At f/2.0 on the Summilux Pre ASPH 35, the glow simmers down and contrast increases. At f/2.8, the glow disappears. Optimum sharpness & contrast kicks in from f/4.0 to f/11, increasing slowly. Cheers.
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