Photozone: Most current NEX lenses are not good enough for the NEX-7!

[Anson]

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does this mean you still using 8 or 12MP DSLR?

Depend on my client requirement... do I give them a 21MP pix from my FF if they only pay for a web-res image? I don't think it's necessary.

 

[kei1309]

i still shoot with 24MP because my "clients" have no idea what they want. sometimes they will request for high-res images 1 week later, so i can't afford to shoot in low-res or use a lower MP.

so i have lots of storage, because i need to store high- and low-res images on my PC at the same time.

also, i use 24MP so i can show those "pretty" girls just how human they are :bsmilie:

 

[jenovacux]

But shot wider than 2.8 and the purple fringing is terrible and hard (if not impossible) to remove in highlights... I have stopped using this as my primary low light lens because of this. Kinda silly seeing that it is so fast and why I bought it in the first place!

Heard PF is typical in all fast primes, but the new feature in lightroom 4.1 effectively solved the PF issue in few simple steps.. flaw solved?

And cv35 f1.2 v2 mfd is 0.5 without hawk adapter

 

[elixir]

After using the Contax G90 with my Kipon adapter, I would proabably use a non-helicoid adapter for normal use and helecoid only for close shots. I find that these complex adapters are a bit fiddly and don't feel smooth and professional.

For m mounts, adapters w helicoids are available. For G mounts, I am not aware of such adapter though.

For G mounts, try with a metabones adapter. It allows u to go closer than the kipon type of adapter, with no compromise to ability to focus at infinity. However it's effect on mfd is less on G90 . With my G28, mfd is less than a foot.

But then again G28 will give Nex 7 purple fringing.

 

[albertri]

The Sony autofocus NEX lenses are "good enough" for 95% of people and the proof is in the many beautiful pictures taken with them. M43 does have some autofocus lenses that are slightly sharper than the autofocus NEX equivalents, but unless you are a corner peeper or shoot in unusual conditions, either system is fine for most people. Personally, together with the A-mount lenses and adapted lenses, NEX is already there or further. More lenses is better, but its already fine. In adapting lenses, NEX has an advantage due to crop factor and peaking focus.

NEX7 user as mentioned by some here the E-Mount native lens still needs more line-up... Using bigger lens meant for A-Mount doesnt really justify of making smaller system. This is the reason I left m4/3 before coz I end up using 4/3 lenses w/c are usually big to make it worst you factor in the lens adaptor ... so I move to 4/3 then eventually here at Sony A-Mount. Looking at native lens I think m4/3 in the last 2-3yrs really mature enough there are almost lenses for most shooting need... if you look at NEX lenses how many we have??

NEX capabilities like 5n and NEX7 are no doubt stellar so no questioning that area

 

[albertri]

Depend on my client requirement... do I give them a 21MP pix from my FF if they only pay for a web-res image? I don't think it's necessary.

Same here I shoot full 24MP then decide later. It's nice to have 24MP image you can crop it still retain tons of details and also I post some of them on FB anyways FB do convert them to a lower res. So I guess there's nothing wrong using full res images.....

 

[Anson]

Same here I shoot full 24MP then decide later. It's nice to have 24MP image you can crop it still retain tons of details and also I post some of them on FB anyways FB do convert them to a lower res. So I guess there's nothing wrong using full res images.....

I normally get it right when I taking the shots den having to crop extensively in PP. Talking about FB.. try uploading a 24MP image to fb and let it "downsize" and compare you upload a 1MP image... and u would see how "aggressive" it would get... haha...

 

[albertri]

I normally get it right when I taking the shots den having to crop extensively in PP. Talking about FB.. try uploading a 24MP image to fb and let it "downsize" and compare you upload a 1MP image... and u would see how "aggressive" it would get... haha...

The need to Crop is not only getting it right when shooting right? Well FB is just for sharing pix/moments not porfolio right? so who care if the pix get downzise from 24MP to 1MP? based on your statement you never upload a full res pix from your DSLR to your FB page? I'm too lazy to downsize my pix so I just let the FB do it for me... anyways dont need perfect IQ in FB everyone knew FB convert or lower your pix res.

Anyways we are OTing lets go back to the Topic of lenses for NEX 7

 

[ZoomZ]

I was also a user of M43 and really enjoyed all the lenses made for M43, especially the few latest additions such as panaleica 25 f1.4, pancake 20mm f1.7, 45Oly, and the 2 wonderful low lights manual lenses by Voigtlander. So spoilt for choices and just for the lenses alone with the latest sensor improvements, it is really attractive to stay with M43 (if I have not moved out to other systems).

I guess the biggest issue with the Nex system (especially the Nex 7 that I have) is that the lenses were not made especially for Nex 7 (as compared to the M43 where M43 lenses compliment the sensors really well) which could not maximise the 24megapixel resolution. Most of the current native E mount lenses will pair well with the 5N, but not with the Nex 7. Of course all the E mount lenses are useable on the Nex 7, but the fact that most of them could not make use of the increased resolution of the Nex 7 sensor kind of makes it wasted.

Hopefully we could have more companies like Sigma or Samyang to create more lenses to compliment the Nex 7. With Sigma 30mm having a higher resolving power than the CZ24mm proves that there are lots of gaps to be filled and achievable with lower cost than CZ24mm (which fits better with my 5N than my Nex 7).

By the way, comparing Zeiss, Leica, and some Voigtlanders lenses with Sigma 30mm, most of them are still more resolving than even the Sigma 30mm!

Time to save up and BBB again!

NEX7 user as mentioned by some here the E-Mount native lens still needs more line-up... Using bigger lens meant for A-Mount doesnt really justify of making smaller system. This is the reason I left m4/3 before coz I end up using 4/3 lenses w/c are usually big to make it worst you factor in the lens adaptor ... so I move to 4/3 then eventually here at Sony A-Mount. Looking at native lens I think m4/3 in the last 2-3yrs really mature enough there are almost lenses for most shooting need... if you look at NEX lenses how many we have??

NEX capabilities like 5n and NEX7 are no doubt stellar so no questioning that area

 

[tsammyc]

NEX7 user as mentioned by some here the E-Mount native lens still needs more line-up... Using bigger lens meant for A-Mount doesnt really justify of making smaller system. This is the reason I left m4/3 before coz I end up using 4/3 lenses w/c are usually big to make it worst you factor in the lens adaptor ... so I move to 4/3 then eventually here at Sony A-Mount. Looking at native lens I think m4/3 in the last 2-3yrs really mature enough there are almost lenses for most shooting need... if you look at NEX lenses how many we have??

NEX capabilities like 5n and NEX7 are no doubt stellar so no questioning that area

I use both the M43 OMD and NEX and frankly, there are no lenses for the NEX that I want that M43 has. Almost everything is available for the NEX. I have 15mm, 16mm, 19mm, 24mm, 30mm, 35mm, 40mm, 50mm, 77mm, 90mm primes and various zooms that went from 8mm to 400mm and even a 150mm macro that has OIS.

I love my OMD too. With the Oly 45mm 1.8, it's not quite up to the IQ of the NEX with Zeiss 35mm F2, but it's darn close and has AF and IBIS. With the 100-300 at 600mm EFL, its not up to the IQ of the NEX at 400mm with the 70-400G, but it's close enough and the combo is over 1kg lighter.

So each one has it's plus and minuses and its not the lenses. You hear this argument a lot from people who either don't have or haven't explored NEX very much.

 

[ageha]

I use both the M43 OMD and NEX and frankly, there are no lenses for the NEX that I want that M43 has. Almost everything is available for the NEX. I have 15mm, 16mm, 19mm, 24mm, 30mm, 35mm, 40mm, 50mm, 77mm, 90mm primes and various zooms that went from 8mm to 400mm and even a 150mm macro that has OIS.

I love my OMD too. With the Oly 45mm 1.8, it's not quite up to the IQ of the NEX with Zeiss 35mm F2, but it's darn close and has AF and IBIS. With the 100-300 at 600mm EFL, its not up to the IQ of the NEX at 400mm with the 70-400G, but it's close enough and the combo is over 1kg lighter.

So each one has it's plus and minuses and its not the lenses. You hear this argument a lot from people who either don't have or haven't explored NEX very much.

I think the bulk of the people out there is only interested in native lenses. Most people don't buy a 5N to mount a full frame 70-400mm zoom with an adapter.

 

[Thoth]

I think the bulk of the people out there is only interested in native lenses. Most people don't buy a 5N to mount a full frame 70-400mm zoom with an adapter.

Agree... and most native lenses are "good" enough for normal shootings like landscape, portraits etc... But then again, it's an expensive camera considering d price of NEX 7 so more will be expected to have better range of native lenses to support the high res sensor.

 

[albertri]

I think the bulk of the people out there is only interested in native lenses. Most people don't buy a 5N to mount a full frame 70-400mm zoom with an adapter.

Agree... and most native lenses are "good" enough for normal shootings like landscape, portraits etc... But then again, it's an expensive camera considering d price of NEX 7 so more will be expected to have better range of native lenses to support the high res sensor.

yeah i agree with you guys. I am not saying go to m4/3 just that Sony not aggressive enough to develop thier E-Mount lens line up....

 

[tsammyc]

I think the bulk of the people out there is only interested in native lenses. Most people don't buy a 5N to mount a full frame 70-400mm zoom with an adapter.

Yeah. I even put a Panny lens on my OMD

 

[tsammyc]

yeah i agree with you guys. I am not saying go to m4/3 just that Sony not aggressive enough to develop thier E-Mount lens line up....

I don't think that it's Sony being not aggressive. It's just that NEX came out about 18 months behind M43. Their lineup is fleshing out and Sigma and Tamron are also developing lenses. All cameras have some compromises. For me, the lenses on the NEX are a non issue since I have all the focal lengths I need. They are all small, light and sharp enough.

 

[tsammyc]

Agree... and most native lenses are "good" enough for normal shootings like landscape, portraits etc... But then again, it's an expensive camera considering d price of NEX 7 so more will be expected to have better range of native lenses to support the high res sensor.

The NEX 7 can use the whole range of A-mount lenses including some of the best Carl Zeiss glass with phase detection autofocus using the LA-EA2 adapter because Sony has incorporated the translucent mirror (SLT technology into it). Many of these lenses, especially the Zeiss and "G" glass easily maximise the resolution of the NEX 7 sensor and you have fast autofocus in low light.

The best lenses ever designed are large and heavy and expensive, so that is the compromise. However, even the new high quality "pro" wide aperture zoom and prime lenses coming out for M43 are not as svelt, light or as cheap as their "consumer" cousins.

 

[Atarandas]

" Good enough ... " is a relative concept. Not much point arguing about it.

Some peeps prefers to have the comfort that the camera they use are backed with large support base ( large user base, large lens availability ), as this is often seen as the safe choice.
Some doesnt care what other use as long their needs are satisfied with what they have.

NEX is still in its infancy, I agree that Sony needs to show the market how serious they are with the NEX system and not just experimenting here and there. And more importantly, where will they place Alpha , given they are now virtually competing in every segment of the consumer digital camera ( cybershots, high end compacts , travel compacts, DSLT. FF . nex ).

 

[elixir]

I quite liked the Zeiss 35mm F2 Biogon on the NEX-7, but one problem was the minimum focus distance of 0.7m, which is over 2ft. Most of the Zeiss and Leica M-mount rangefinder lenses have this problem. Can't use it to say shoot food on the table, but close portraits are OK. The Zeiss 24mm 1.8 E-mount is an extremely versatile lens, being able to shoot as close as 0.16m or about 6 inches, almost macro distances. The CZ24mm 1.8 is as sharp as the 35mm Biogon in the corners when stopped down to about F5.6, which is why it is so versatile.

I dun have the Nex 7 but have the Nex 5N. As my friend who has the Nex 7 wanted to try the 35mm focal length, I lend him my Contax Carl Zeiss G35. In a quick test against the ZM 35mm, we have noticed that the ZM 35mm Biogon tends to have chromatic aberration at the sides/ corners. Tends to have abit of PF especially at the highlights around the corners. On the G35mm, there is no such issues. Guess the difference here is that ZM is a biogon design while the Contax is a Planar, and that the Nex 7 sensor is very "sensitive".

Also tried the CV Nokton 35mm F1.4. Notice that peaking function in magnified view does not show the highlighted spots, while at the same scenes, both the CZs would have no problem showing the peaking highlights in magnified view.

For Nex 7 users, if you are looking for 35mm, you can try to look for the Contax G35.

 

[fatmax]

Hey guys I have read some reviews of the SEL 18-200mm seems to be one of the good zooms thy hv for The nex7 . Anyone tried tt? Its pretty ex comparing to other makes.

 

[Thoth]

Just got d Sigma 19mm f2.8, gonna test it this weekend. Reviews are good on this lens for NEX 7.