Photos Wanted (Local)
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As we've mentioned earlier, credit can be given as to state who contributed the photos e.g courtesy by .... and this photos are only used on our site. And of coz, by willingly contributing your photos with our agreed terms & conditions will not infringe your copyrights issues. Unless otherwise, we used your photos without asking your permission. This is why we are here to ask for any willing contributing photographers to exhibit their works and at the same time giving them the due respect for their job on the site. By the way, this is not a unsavoury website but a pure and legal Singapore portal.
Eurekaw,
We have had several instances of commercial entities coming in here and asking for contributions of photos/images and the only "compensation" for the photo/image owner is "recognition" of their contribution.
Naturally, our members have their suspicions over such an arrangement as
a) they do not get anything out of it while
b) those images serve to promote the site and since you have openly stated that it is a commercial site, you will be indirectly earning $$ from the images used to promote it.
Summing up some of the questions asked, and adding a couple of new ones :-
1) Who owns the copyright of the images? Assuming that you do not do touchups or crops ...
2) What kind of services are being offered?
3) How would the photographer be recognised? Watermarked on image? or a separate page listing out all the Photographers Names and Image contributions?
Basically, the premise of asking members to contribute their images for just a cursory "recognition" statement is not going to gather much support in here; thus the more information you provide, the more support you may get.
We have had several instances of commercial entities coming in here and asking for contributions of photos/images and the only "compensation" for the photo/image owner is "recognition" of their contribution.
Naturally, our members have their suspicions over such an arrangement as
a) they do not get anything out of it while
b) those images serve to promote the site and since you have openly stated that it is a commercial site, you will be indirectly earning $$ from the images used to promote it.
Summing up some of the questions asked, and adding a couple of new ones :-
1) Who owns the copyright of the images? Assuming that you do not do touchups or crops ...
2) What kind of services are being offered?
3) How would the photographer be recognised? Watermarked on image? or a separate page listing out all the Photographers Names and Image contributions?
Basically, the premise of asking members to contribute their images for just a cursory "recognition" statement is not going to gather much support in here; thus the more information you provide, the more support you may get.
if the portal was FREE, meaning people won't be charged money by going to the portal, i'm sure there will be willing photographers supplying their images.
the problem now is, money is involved. if you are charging, then anybody whose works appear on the site ought to be given a token royalty fee for having the photo displayed, even if credit is given, but so what ?
of course, this royalty is a very small percentage of each members' subscription fee, but if you were to blossom to 1 million members, then the amount of money involved could be different.
of course, that said, there will still be people willing to provide their photos in return for some form of advertising or something. all the best in your search.
the problem now is, money is involved. if you are charging, then anybody whose works appear on the site ought to be given a token royalty fee for having the photo displayed, even if credit is given, but so what ?
of course, this royalty is a very small percentage of each members' subscription fee, but if you were to blossom to 1 million members, then the amount of money involved could be different.
of course, that said, there will still be people willing to provide their photos in return for some form of advertising or something. all the best in your search.
leotitude79
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Will the pictures will be display as per original form? Any alteration done on your web designer portion? Is alteration done by your web designer, then the photo is not the work of the original photographer.
eurekaw - well, then u have to be a bit more forthcoming with info on ur website. if its ur business venture and do not wish others to steal ur idea, perhaps u ought to consider hiring photographers to take pics for u. or, u can go to a stock photog agency to buy pictures for ur website. IMO, no one will want to contribute photos to ur venture when (a) we dun know wats the website for, (b) how exactly our pics are going to be used, and, in relation to (b), (c) if used for commerical purposes, wats the copyrights, fee and royalty issues for use of pics?
in short - there's no such thing as a free lunch.
in short - there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Eurekaw said:
As I had mentioned before, commericalising a photograph does not only mean selling the photographs. Even the photographs that are used to "Decorate" your commerical website is classified as commericalising the photograph, you are using the photograph to attract potential customer.
Maybe you still do not get it, let me give you another analogy, I am sure you had heard of advertisment photograph, the advertiser do not sell the photographs, but they are generating income from the photograph, so should the advertiser pays the photographer for use of the photographs? Absolutely, in this instance the advertiser can't say, I am not selling the photograph, the photograph does not generated profit for me by it's sales thus I do not need to pay you a single cent. He can be sued as the photograph is generating potential income for him as the photograph is used to promote his items.
Similarly, if you use the photographs to promote your website, may it be "decorate" purpose or indirectly selling your service purposes, you are still commericalising the photographs.
Thus it is befitting the photographers here ask why service are you providing and their doubts.
there can only be one sentence to summarize all these
WHETHER ANOT COMMERCIAL, AMATEUR, PROFESSIONAL, HOBBYISTS, ETC photographers......
IF U WANT PICTURES, YOU GOTTA PAY FOR IT!!!
Haven't u heard enuf that there's no such thing as FREE LUNCHES!
:angry: How many blardy CSers must give u the same damn gist of the issue b4 it takes u to understand?!!!
WHETHER ANOT COMMERCIAL, AMATEUR, PROFESSIONAL, HOBBYISTS, ETC photographers......
IF U WANT PICTURES, YOU GOTTA PAY FOR IT!!!
Haven't u heard enuf that there's no such thing as FREE LUNCHES!
:angry: How many blardy CSers must give u the same damn gist of the issue b4 it takes u to understand?!!!
Eurekaw said:
Just for your information, if you use the photograph without citing the contributing party you are liable for lawsuit.
If you use the photograph to indirectly generate profit without informing and paying royalty (unless the photographer distinctively said to give it to you for free without royalty) you are liable for lawsuit.
If you use the photograph to decorate your website which does commerial services, thus using the photograph commerically when the initial agreement is to use the photograph for non-commerical purposes, you are liable for lawsuit.
Do you get it now? It is not only the act of listing the contributing party or acknowledgement of works, it is contract laws and copyright laws. Actually, If you use the photograph in a commerical website when the original contract is to use it for non-commerical purposes, you are liable to be sued for bleach of contract.
Eurekaw, I've been reading this thread for a bit and had been refraining from posting until now. Can I first tell you that you are coming across as a very dense individual.
You seem to not understand the many explanations that have been put forth by many seasoned members that what you are asking is not right. You are seen as trying to take advantage of the newer novices by offering them a chance to have their work published in your commercial site, in return for nothing other than a photo credit. Bottom line, you don't get something for nothing (free lunch or whatever you want to call it). Come on, I don't believe you're that naive to not understand that simplest of concepts.
You seem to not understand the many explanations that have been put forth by many seasoned members that what you are asking is not right. You are seen as trying to take advantage of the newer novices by offering them a chance to have their work published in your commercial site, in return for nothing other than a photo credit. Bottom line, you don't get something for nothing (free lunch or whatever you want to call it). Come on, I don't believe you're that naive to not understand that simplest of concepts.
Eurekaw said:
u're still blatantly avoiding the essence!!!!!!!
its not about who alters anot..
U want something, u gotta pay for them by buying them.
simple as that.............. until u adrress this, i dun see the point of any CSers passing u photos.... (but then again, there will always be blacksheep around)
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