Photographing w/o post-processing

[forward]

"Its what message that you want to deliver to the audience
with your pictures." quoted by luntut comes true to reality.

To some extent it is the up and coming learning photographer,
who quite mistakenly, think that a picture loves by its audience
will be one delivered with the latest imaging technology including
digital manipulation will advance his status in the photographic
world or his clients.

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Photographers doing fine art photography who think that
they define cultlural photographic values of image-making
are not for their audiences but themselves.

 

[dazism]

99% of my photo have been PP.
cause i'm a noob.

1% no PP cause i got a lucky shoot

 

[ndroo]

I vote. Hehe. I lied. I PP every one of my pic too ... coz I suck.

 

[lightspace]

I pp my photos even if they are "perfect". That's because that I like to give my photos a variation

 

[ed9119]

actually the truth of the matter is that a vast majority of PEOPLE (with zero interest in photography as a hobby.......) do not PP their images and print and/or download As Is straight from memory card.

source of above comments: from friends working at KT, Konota, Photo Hub and a couple of Fujilabs at Marine Parade and Toa Payoh

 

[shaoken]

I always shoot in neutral colours, no increment in saturation.
I do it through PP..

 

[2evans]

Option for being too lazy to PP should be added to the poll. But really, it's up to one's personal choice if they want to PP and how much.

 

[LBL2009]

There are two processing tools - camera+lens+accessory and the pp software.

For me, since I spent more money on a camera than I would on a pp software, I think it is only natural for me wanting to master the camera skills to produce a good picture. PP comes later and hopefully I don't need a lot of help from it to rectify the errors made at the front end.

I will get more satisfaction when I do well with the camera.

 

[Anson]

Personally I think if you are using a non-dslr camera, less PP is required ( or less PP can be done).

Come to think of it, does shooting & working with RAW consider PP?

 

[eyeshutter]

it's up to your preferences. i aways do minimal to extreme processing according to composition i want, coz i'm enjoying the beauty of digital world-- the photography can give in this modern generation.

 

[eyeshutter]

Personally I think if you are using a non-dslr camera, less PP is required ( or less PP can be done).

Come to think of it, does shooting & working with RAW consider PP?

yes i think so.

 

[LomoPhotographer]

actually the truth of the matter is that a vast majority of PEOPLE (with zero interest in photography as a hobby.......) do not PP their images and print and/or download As Is straight from memory card.

source of above comments: from friends working at KT, Konota, Photo Hub and a couple of Fujilabs at Marine Parade and Toa Payoh

Agree agree.
However.. I dont know, but I am still trying to shoot and improve and hopefully and get a good picture without the need of post processing tho.

Cos I find photography this kind of thing, there are alot of different categories for eg, like a landscape shot and street shot.. very different thing.

Street shot you usually dont pp much cos you some kind of want to retain the nature of the photo and it is like a good pic? Like the skin colour of people inside the photo or whatsoever for eg.

Landscape like nature landscape, you shoot sunset or the sea or something, you need to pp cos you need to bring out the smooth of the sea surface to bring out the punch or something like that, then it become a good pic. Something like that.

So it is like different category, you need to bring out the nature of the photo therefore you will choose to pp/dont pp.

Haha please pardon for my comment, just sharing my personal thoughts so it might be wrong.

 

[kilkenny]

hmm actually i was asking myself this qns since i recently upgraded to D90from a PnS. Initially i was happy cos for day to day pics i can just upload straight from card to FB or multiply for sharing. I think that is the advantage of a DSLR over a PnS in terms of daily snapshots.

I was also able to PS a lot less to achieve the picture quality which was my own personal standard as a hobbyist. I think if i had all the filters, superb lens, at least 2 sets of flash i probably would photoshop a lot less but i wun stop.

Because PS shows me the possibilities tt could have been and helps to improve my pics to standards my equipment and skills cannot achieve, but tt's just me

I think end of the day in this digital edge, digital processing is inevitable, kudos to those who can achieve a great pic without doing it. For those who do it regularly to improve your picture, kudos to you too as from post processing, you can learn how to do the actual shot better too.

Just my 2 cts worth.

cheers,
kilkenny

 

[limwhow]

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I think end of the day in this digital edge, digital processing is inevitable, kudos to those who can achieve a great pic without doing it. For those who do it regularly to improve your picture, kudos to you too as from post processing, you can learn how to do the actual shot better too.
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Well said, I think you have put it very diplomatically.
All these while I have been holding a purist point of view - 'No PP for me.". As such, my naivety has rubbed off on my girl who just started learning.
But after some constructive critiques I received, I began to realise, as you rightfully said, that it is inevitable to PP.
That is why, today I finally bought a PS CS4 so that I cannot kid myself and run away from it. But knowing PS, it's a tough, long road ahead.

 

[LomoPhotographer]

hmm actually i was asking myself this qns since i recently upgraded to D90from a PnS. Initially i was happy cos for day to day pics i can just upload straight from card to FB or multiply for sharing. I think that is the advantage of a DSLR over a PnS in terms of daily snapshots.

I was also able to PS a lot less to achieve the picture quality which was my own personal standard as a hobbyist. I think if i had all the filters, superb lens, at least 2 sets of flash i probably would photoshop a lot less but i wun stop.

Because PS shows me the possibilities tt could have been and helps to improve my pics to standards my equipment and skills cannot achieve, but tt's just me

I think end of the day in this digital edge, digital processing is inevitable, kudos to those who can achieve a great pic without doing it. For those who do it regularly to improve your picture, kudos to you too as from post processing, you can learn how to do the actual shot better too.

Just my 2 cts worth.

cheers,
kilkenny

Well said, I think you have put it very diplomatically.
All these while I have been holding a purist point of view - 'No PP for me.". As such, my naivety has rubbed off on my girl who just started learning.
But after some constructive critiques I received, I began to realise, as you rightfully said, that it is inevitable to PP.
That is why, today I finally bought a PS CS4 so that I cannot kid myself and run away from it. But knowing PS, it's a tough, long road ahead.

Absolutely. :thumbsup:

 

[redmonsoon]

Lets put it this way, NO commercial photography out there goes out the door without PP. And that includes the most expensive, professional or famous PG you can find..

Post processing, and the degree to which u do it, is simply a personal choice for us hobbyist.
Its NOT as matter of shooting gd enough so theres no need to PP.

Reason being theres ALWAYS something that can be 'improved' beyond the immediate. Be it the subject/person, object, environment, lighting,etc.. Its just that Commercial productions expects a certain standard while hobbyist have more freedom to choose their degree of PP.

Actually moving from pns to DSLR does not mean less PP. On the contrary, if you now expects even more from the photo, the degree of PP could/would/may jolly well increase.haha

IMHO, the view to take should be to not shoot with the thought that you will 'fix' it later in PP. But if after, you realize that PP certain parts could improve the photo, then by all means.

Some of u guys are saying PP like its a dirty word...lol:bsmilie:

 

[afipuffy]

I just shoot in RAW and then use minor editing using Lightroom2 will do.

 

[night86mare]

Some of u guys are saying PP like its a dirty word...lol:bsmilie:

well, it's a choice.

i think there's nothing wrong with pp, or choosing not to pp, so long as we do it for the right reasons, and with the right basis and understanding in mind, i.e.

1. that pp doesn't do wonders for a photograph that isn't basically good in the first place

2. that no pp doesn't do anything for the photograph just by saying that it wasn't pped

3. that no pp doesn't make you a god

4. that pp doesn't make you a god either

there is nothing to be proud about having no pp, or having good pp. what matters is the end product, not how much pp you did, that you did no pp, blah blah blah blah. if you care so much about the process, remember that no one else does.

 

[kilkenny]

Actually moving from pns to DSLR does not mean less PP. On the contrary, if you now expects even more from the photo, the degree of PP could/would/may jolly well increase.haha

Yes yes something i realised

Some of u guys are saying PP like its a dirty word...lol

To be fair, photography did not start out digital and i can understand the resistance to using anything other than good understanding of photography basics and a good eye for composition to achieve a great picture. However, PP is already starting from the camera itself nowsaday and to chase after improved camera bodies while denoucing PP seems oxy-moronic.

I think everyone can benefit from PP but must open up the heart. Beginners can see the result of sharpening and realised that i should have increased the ISO and shutter speed or used a tripod to achieve less blur picture.

Even for professionals, they can play with so many things, cropping to see how the different composition would give different feel, changing the contrast and warmth of the picture to give different feel.

I think that PP can be a very useful tool if we embrace it, but still, i see ppl who do not want to PP as drivers of vintage cars, i like the cars and i admire them for driving the cars even though they could prob get a GTR for the price they pay, they look happy driving it and it gets them where they want. But i wun drive one ;p nor will i ask them why there are driving one.

Most importantly, enjoy photography, they way you like it, the way u chose and please let everybody respect everyone else's choice.

cheers,
kilkenny

 

[szeping]

For me, I treat my works as arts.

So if I am able to improve the artwork by using PP after the efforts of capturing, why not?