flipfreak
Senior Member
hi rgy, before you go any further talking about PPAS you need to do some research on them first.
things are not as simple as it seems.
hey, at least i see them running ads for the members.

hi rgy, before you go any further talking about PPAS you need to do some research on them first.
things are not as simple as it seems.
Hello all,
1. Digital photography - Supply/demand economics
2. Photographers are not businessmen - Actually this is the most serious issue, because of this reason photographers do not
a. Study the market carefully and apply business rules to pricing. Fees are reach arbitrarily, there's no consideration for expenditure, capital investment, savings, etc.
b. Consider networking, marketing, PR, long term and exit plans as integral.
c. Realize that clients are playing them off each other (all sectors, including advertising). Read Prisoner's Dilemma.
3. Professional Photography is Business 1st & Photography 2nd - If you don't want to think about the business, do it as a hobby.
Z
rgy1993,
asking for perspective on the market in future is just like asking what will happen after 2012 ?
no body here is or capable of predicting, but you can safely be assured that the photographic market will still prevail, only that the players will changed and maybe the rules too.
why ? bcoz all link to the advancement of technology.
if the sea is rough, does not means no one will go fishing or surfing or yachting.
do whatever your heart/mind tell you to, and don't look back.
Hello cabbySHE,
I hate to disagree with you but I have to. Don't take it personally, but your advice is completely unsound. People who have gone into the business with this mindset eventually leave the business within 5-10 years.
rgy1993 is doing the right thing by asking for information about these turbulent times.
When the sea is rough and people will die going out fishing when they don't read the weather condition. Diving headlong into this business armed with a camera and passion without a clear idea of what's happening will kill you. This is serious business.
I have met people who did professional photography for years without a clear retirement plan. They are currently taxi drivers and real estate agents.
If any of you are seriously thinking about going pro, think of how much you need for your children's education and retirement, work out the sums and see how much you ACTUALLY need to net a month, you'll be pleasantly surprised at the figures.
Z
3. Professional Photography is Business 1st & Photography 2nd - If you don't want to think about the business, do it as a hobby.
with all due respect, your point is accurate to the last full stop. It is like a complete comprehensive insurance policy. But somehow, I figure that not many, there may be some like your goodself, working into the future of children's educational fund, medisave, property investment, stocks investment, retirement plan etc everything all taken into account of how to price your service / or fee.
frankly speaking no job is safe.
Work for others, you have to worry about retrenchment. (this is one hard fact of life that is faced by most...... some have to do drastic midlife career change).
Work for yourself, you have to worry about the financial stability of the operations.
So, try lah. Make sure you have done your prep- homework on what is required to succeed and do alternative planning. If plan A dont work, do plan B and if plan B dont work do plan C..... worst case scenario........ do plan Z.
Failure should never be looked upon as setback but rather as an experience... provided if you can learn something from it. Even success is not an experience unless you know what makes it successfully.
If you are still young, all-rounder type of experiences are very useful in shaping a person sense and sensibility :think: especially in the later years making you much wiser. If you are older, then perhaps mending own pocket for retirement is a more important task.
Do or dont do...... depends on who said it and how much influencing power does the person has. If i said it then probably only 20%.![]()