Panasonic GH4K


Congrats on finally getting your hands on the GH4. ;p

Why the need to be so wide at 4096x2160 ?

Thanks

See:

4K vs. UHD

The simplest way of defining the difference between 4K and UHD is this: 4K is a professional production and cinema standard, while UHD is a consumer display and broadcast standard. To discover how they became so conflated, let’s look at the history of the two terms.

The term “4K” originally derives from the Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI), a consortium of motion picture studios that standardized a spec for the production and digital projection of 4K content. In this case, 4K is 4096×2160, and is exactly twice the previous standard for digital editing and projection (2K – 2048×1080). As you can see, 4K clearly refers to the fact that the vertical resolution (4096) is just over four thousand. The 4K standard is not just a resolution, either: It also defines how 4K content is encoded. A DCI 4K stream is compressed using JPEG2000, can have a bitrate of up to 250 megabits per second (Mbps), and 12-bit 4:4:4 color depth and image quality. (See: How digital technology is reinventing cinema.)

Ultra High Definition, or UHD for short, is the next step up from Full HD — the official name (that no one uses) for the display resolution of 1920×1080. UHD doubles that resolution to 3840×2160. It does not take a genius to see that 3840 is actually quite far away from four thousand. Almost every TV or monitor that you see advertised as “4K” is actually UHD. There are some panels out there that are 4096×2160 (aspect ratio 1.9:1), but the vast majority are 3840×2160 (1.78:1). If you displayed 4K content on one of these “4K” displays you would get letterboxing (black bars) down the left and right side of the screen. There isn’t yet a specification for how UHD content is encoded (which is one of the reasons there’s almost no UHD content in existence), but it’s unlikely to be the same quality as DCI 4K.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing

Should also note the slightly different crop factor (2.3x) when shooting in 4K. Some say it's also slightly different between the two modes: DCI 4K (2.2x), UHD (2.3x)
 

Just shot the whole morning pairing 5D3 + Gh3 + Gh4.

I'm only shooting FullHD cause do not need 4k for this project.

I'm very happy with 4 usage improvements (outside of having 96fps and 4k)

1. Screen + OLED Viewfinder (Good Improvement). Sharper and clearer
2. Focus Peaking. The green/blue Edge highlights was a wonder to work with for situations where you are not able to trust your eyes completely. This should be in all cameras. Such a simple thing.
3. Zebra. Having the 100% Zebra on gives you an immediate response to blown highlights. Very simple yet unobtrusive to work with.
4. Auto Focus. Custom focus areas + Fast Auto Focus was a much need upgrade and i'm totally satisfied with the quick hunting. Its twice to 3 times as fast in situations compared to my GH3.

One unfortunate thing. The Low Light. Still the same. Not much visible improvements. I won't expect much as its the same sensor size.
 

how's the dynamic range as compared to the 5D and GH3?
 

how's the dynamic range as compared to the 5D and GH3?

Didn't do a scientific test but i was able to have details for objects under shelter and still have details in the blown highlights behind (in broad 9am sun light)

It seems to be slightly better than GH3 ... Only slightly.

My 5D3 is now only used for super low light, anything else for video filming the GH4 beats the crap out of it.
 

Congrats on finally getting your hands on the GH4. ;p
Thanks bro ...


See:
4K vs. UHD

The simplest way of defining the difference between 4K and UHD is this: 4K is a professional production and cinema standard, while UHD is a consumer display and broadcast standard. To discover how they became so conflated, let’s look at the history of the two terms.

The term “4K” originally derives from the Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI), a consortium of motion picture studios that standardized a spec for the production and digital projection of 4K content. In this case, 4K is 4096×2160, and is exactly twice the previous standard for digital editing and projection (2K – 2048×1080). As you can see, 4K clearly refers to the fact that the vertical resolution (4096) is just over four thousand. The 4K standard is not just a resolution, either: It also defines how 4K content is encoded. A DCI 4K stream is compressed using JPEG2000, can have a bitrate of up to 250 megabits per second (Mbps), and 12-bit 4:4:4 color depth and image quality. (See: How digital technology is reinventing cinema.)

Ultra High Definition, or UHD for short, is the next step up from Full HD — the official name (that no one uses) for the display resolution of 1920×1080. UHD doubles that resolution to 3840×2160. It does not take a genius to see that 3840 is actually quite far away from four thousand. Almost every TV or monitor that you see advertised as “4K” is actually UHD. There are some panels out there that are 4096×2160 (aspect ratio 1.9:1), but the vast majority are 3840×2160 (1.78:1). If you displayed 4K content on one of these “4K” displays you would get letterboxing (black bars) down the left and right side of the screen. There isn’t yet a specification for how UHD content is encoded (which is one of the reasons there’s almost no UHD content in existence), but it’s unlikely to be the same quality as DCI 4K.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...the-same-thing
Thanks. No I have some rough idea ...

But shxt, I just recorded all in UHD simply because I choose 25p. 4096 x 2160 is only available if you select 24p system frequency ...

cheers
 

4. Auto Focus. Custom focus areas + Fast Auto Focus was a much need upgrade and i'm totally satisfied with the quick hunting. Its twice to 3 times as fast in situations compared to my GH3.

Yes, that's the first thing I notice. The auto focus in GH4 is awesome and super duper fast ! :thumbsup:

But can someone recommend a good screen protector, please ? Bcos this morning I went to Funan and install a screen protector on it. After that the auto focus is not sensitive anymore to my finger's touch ... sigh ... so took out and throw away the Screen Protector and the auto focus is awesome again ... So, really appreciate if someone can recommend a good screen protector ...

Thanks
 

Thanks kandinsky ...

Can i know where you get your Screen Protector from ? Does the SP decrease the sensitivity of your auto focus ?

Thanks

I just cut a spare ipod touch screen protector down to size for my GH3 LCD.

How can a screen protector decrease the sensitivity of the AF???

I think you mean 'decrease sensitivity of the touch screen'? Have not experienced that, perhaps the SP you're using is too thick?
 

I just cut a spare ipod touch screen protector down to size for my GH3 LCD.

How can a screen protector decrease the sensitivity of the AF???

I think you mean 'decrease sensitivity of the touch screen'? Have not experienced that, perhaps the SP you're using is too thick?

Yes kandinsky, I mean the LCD Screen does not respond to my touch. Say the focus is on some thing on the front then I touch another location say at the back because I want the camera to focus at the back ... but it doesn't focus at the back ...

After that I throw away the Screen Protector and the issue no longer there .. you are right I think the LCD screen is too thick.

Can I know the brand of the screen protector you use for your GH3 ? After you paste the SP, the sensitivity of the touch screen remains more or less the same ?

Thanks
 

Auto focus super-fast... in stills or in video?

I think he is referring to video ...

Not just video. Its the Continuous Auto Focus during recording video.
 

Can I know the brand of the screen protector you use for your GH3 ? After you paste the SP, the sensitivity of the touch screen remains more or less the same ?

Thanks

Yeah, sensitivity no difference. I think unless you get the type that is advertised to be very durable, e.g., 'shatter proof' or 'scratchproof', it shouldn't affect the sensitivity at all. Try getting the cheapest, no-frills SP you can find.

The one I use is a cheapo one ordered from ebay quite long ago. I don't know if you can consider 'SCREENGUARD' a brand... or is "HH" the brand?? :bsmilie: "The greatest guarder for LCD Screen"... "The perfect solitions"...

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Thanks kandinsky,

Will go handphone shop to find this SP.

I suppose in this case, the cheaper the better .... Hahaha

In fact, I have been using without SP now ... the touch screen is so responsive ...

Thanks

Yeah, sensitivity no difference. I think unless you get the type that is advertised to be very durable, e.g., 'shatter proof' or 'scratchproof', it shouldn't affect the sensitivity at all. Try getting the cheapest, no-frills SP you can find.

The one I use is a cheapo one ordered from ebay quite long ago. I don't know if you can consider 'SCREENGUARD' a brand... or is "HH" the brand?? :bsmilie: "The greatest guarder for LCD Screen"... "The perfect solitions"...

WwqePAM.jpg
 

Hi there,

I did a rough test to see the filesize of AVCHD Vs 4K recording both at 25p.

AVCHD I select 1080 and 4K I select 3840 x 2160.

My test shows that the filesize after importing is roughly 3MB/s for AVHD and 10MB/s for 4K.

So very roughly, 4K filesize is about 3.3 times more than AVCHD ...

Cheers
Cheers


nice share bro. Now I know it.
thank you hahahaha
 

nice share bro. Now I know it.
thank you hahahaha

You're welcome ...

This forum is supposedly for members to share info ... and helpful to one another ...

cheers
 

I think he is referring to video ...

Not just video. Its the Continuous Auto Focus during recording video.



Interesting.
Reason why I asked is because in the TheCameraStore's "Panasonic GH4 Final Impressions" clip,
the auto focus hunts quite a bit in video mode (at the 5:45 mark on Youtube).
 

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Interesting.
Reason why I asked is because in the TheCameraStore's "Panasonic GH4 Final Impressions" clip,
the auto focus hunts quite a bit in video mode (at the 5:45 mark on Youtube).

Yes, there will be occasions where it will hunt.

This hunting will depend on the lens. I guess it will take longer for a 50mm to auto focus compared to a 14mm.

But it is an improvement from the GH3 and thats what we are actually saying. An improvement but its not perfect.

But anyways, we should not be using the auto focus much anyways, 95% of the time, i'm doing manual focusing.
 

But anyways, we should not be using the auto focus much anyways, 95% of the time, i'm doing manual focusing.

By manual, do you mean using touch focus on the lcd screen?
 

By manual, do you mean using touch focus on the lcd screen?

Using manual lens focusing.

Touch screen is the worst focusing method IMO. Maybe good for those OTOT personal short film.
 

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