organisers who don't keep promises!!!

[wheresmycheese]

This is totally misleading, unfair, and utterly rubbish.:nono:

In any trade, there are always some black sheeps ..... just like here, we have some bad organizers as well as some selfish photographers.

No doubt, the above mentioned organizers are good but many of the others are not that bad either. Different organizers serve different photographers' need. Please do not generalize things, and do not assume that "the other" organizers are all out to make quick bucks only! Have some consideration for their feelings :dunno:

It's hard work and if there is profit, they deserve it.

i agree. even thou the organizer may cut corners and not keep his promise, he still has to go thru the trouble of organizing and all. but there are really a few out to make a quick buck.

btw i agree with DP on this here

 

[AhV]

as an ex-organiser, I say...


If I were an organiser again, I will still go UNARMED ... if i want to shoot, i will join another shoot...why should I shoot at the expense of others during my own shoot ? and increase the shooting ratio by + 1....... what was my duty then ?

set up things ( environment, model, make up etc ) swee swee and bring the necessary stuffs (e.g. TWO freaking HUGE reflectors, portable strobes, light stands, changing tent... etc. The only camera bags are ALL my participants' .... and I take it on myself to watch their PRECIOUS while they shoot and share tips/ pointers


My past participants can vouch for me


My advice is... choose another organiser who will not 'spoil your day' in the future and deliver what he/ she promised ....

 

[sprintist]

glad you spoke up, this is the way man! no wonder there are good reviews about you :thumbsup:

as an ex-organiser, I say...


If I were an organiser again, I will still go UNARMED ... if i want to shoot, i will join another shoot...why should I shoot at the expense of others during my own shoot ? and increase the shooting ratio by + 1....... what was my duty then ?

set up things ( environment, model, make up etc ) swee swee and bring the necessary stuffs (e.g. TWO freaking HUGE reflectors, portable strobes, light stands, changing tent... etc. The only camera bags are ALL my participants' .... and I take it on myself to watch their PRECIOUS while they shoot and share tips/ pointers


My past participants can vouch for me


My advice is... choose another organiser who will not 'spoil your day' in the future and deliver what he/ she promised ....

 

[wheresmycheese]

yeah. thanks for the input i guess now everyone knows who the organizer is.

I feel the organizer may shoot but at the consent of us his customers or maybe after the whole thing a few quick ones not shoot every location and pose. He even posed her his way and just shoot. its like he cared only for himself. BTW he screwed up the model's make up as well... see mag in the afternoon an you know wad i mean!!

morning shots were pretty gd her makeup was light and all.

i wanted to bring reflectors but i tot since he said he providing why not.. end up that joker only brought his camera ba an his camera with nice flash unit FOR himself!!

 

[AhV]

yeah. thanks for the input i guess now everyone knows who the organizer is.

I feel the organizer may shoot but at the consent of us his customers or maybe after the whole thing a few quick ones not shoot every location and pose. He even posed her his way and just shoot. its like he cared only for himself. BTW he screwed up the model's make up as well... see mag in the afternoon an you know wad i mean!!

morning shots were pretty gd her makeup was light and all.

i wanted to bring reflectors but i tot since he said he providing why not.. end up that joker only brought his camera ba an his camera with nice flash unit FOR himself!!

:sweat: ..... guess most would be pissed

 

[AhV]

I quote

Dated changed to 22nd March

Here's bringing you Magdeline C in FULL bridal outfit! Going around deserted and crowded places like a runaway bride. Fun? U betcha! Heck, we'll also throw in some carefully coordinated bridal poses! We understand the art.. we're photographers too!

Time/Date: Mar 22 4pm-6pm (maybe extended!) for that nostalagic! evening feel!

Price: 55SGD (we bring you expensive outfits, good poses, but absorbed the price!)

Venue: Multiple areas, be prepared to chase the bride!

Props/facilities: reflectors, drinks, etc provided, outdoor lightings can be arranged

Unquote

actually, the statement in BOLD has a lot of weight .... sounds like an experienced dude if anyone reads it ?

BUT from your feedback ... apparently, not :think:

 

[wheresmycheese]

so r u gg to name him?
cos i am gg to join my virgin photo shoot

i did name him and its in bold bro it should be obvious.

i found the thread and promises btw. runaway bride by dennisc!! and so much for him sayin the model will not be tired and all for evening shoots!! :thumbsd:

his link can be found here all the empty promises!

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4876243&postcount=1

btw i had the impression we will be really traveling like go to various location around singapore.

here's a printscreen of the PM between us

 

[soeypixels]

i did name him and its in bold bro it should be obvious.

i found the thread and promises btw. runaway bride by dennisc!! and so much for him sayin the model will not be tired and all for evening shoots!! :thumbsd:

his link can be found here all the empty promises!

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4876243&postcount=1

btw i had the impression we will be really traveling like go to various location around singapore.

here's a printscreen of the PM between us

ok i missed out and already del my msg

 

[wheresmycheese]

I quote

Dated changed to 22nd March

Here's bringing you Magdeline C in FULL bridal outfit! Going around deserted and crowded places like a runaway bride. Fun? U betcha! Heck, we'll also throw in some carefully coordinated bridal poses! We understand the art.. we're photographers too!

Time/Date: Mar 22 4pm-6pm (maybe extended!) for that nostalagic! evening feel!

Price: 55SGD (we bring you expensive outfits, good poses, but absorbed the price!)

Venue: Multiple areas, be prepared to chase the bride!

Props/facilities: reflectors, drinks, etc provided, outdoor lightings can be arranged

Unquote

actually, the statement in BOLD has a lot of weight .... sounds like an experienced dude if anyone reads it ?

BUT from your feedback ... apparently, not :think:

i totally agree with you. thats why i signed up i thought i will be in good hands apparently not. the pose the model with the sun behind her facing us. I claim not to be a pro but tell me an experience photographer who will do it without reflector.

 

[StarAlliance]

yeah. thanks for the input i guess now everyone knows who the organizer is.

I feel the organizer may shoot but at the consent of us his customers or maybe after the whole thing a few quick ones not shoot every location and pose. He even posed her his way and just shoot. its like he cared only for himself. BTW he screwed up the model's make up as well... see mag in the afternoon an you know wad i mean!!

morning shots were pretty gd her makeup was light and all.

i wanted to bring reflectors but i tot since he said he providing why not.. end up that joker only brought his camera ba an his camera with nice flash unit FOR himself!!

Heng Ah ... everything went well till the day of shoot, that morning, i gave an excuse and never turn up for the shoot, my intuition saves the day, and 56 bucks of course!
Not to mention a LOUSY location. Instead of a runaway bride, i made a HOME run. Gonna buy myself a supper!

NO MORE photoshoot in a long while. Enough of receiving SMS crap like "transfer $$$ to POSB savings XXXXXXXXX and SMS me the trans #". Heck!

 

[wheresmycheese]

Heng Ah ... everything went well till the day of shoot, that morning, i gave an excuse and never turn up for the shoot, my intuition saves the day, and 56 bucks of course!
Not to mention a LOUSY location. Instead of a runaway bride, i made a HOME run. Gonna buy myself a supper!

NO MORE photoshoot in a long while.

wah bro you suan me like that leh. what made you not go? i thought v interesting then hai... anyway wads done is done. morning shot like better! ! Charby one looks v gd but he price..... i wonder if its really slow pace sort

 

[TheQuestion]

wah bro you suan me like that leh. what made you not go? i thought v interesting then hai... anyway wads done is done. morning shot like better! ! Charby one looks v gd but he price..... i wonder if its really slow pace sort

you want good shoot then be prepared to pay. what happened with u is damn shameful...that guy give bad name to all org...

 

[bengchiat]

Heng Ah ... everything went well till the day of shoot, that morning, i gave an excuse and never turn up for the shoot, my intuition saves the day, and 56 bucks of course!
Not to mention a LOUSY location. Instead of a runaway bride, i made a HOME run. Gonna buy myself a supper!

NO MORE photoshoot in a long while. Enough of receiving SMS crap like "transfer $$$ to POSB savings XXXXXXXXX and SMS me the trans #". Heck!

guess organizer going to start a thread that says shooters who don't keep promises

 

[Canonised]

...............that morning, i gave an excuse and never turn up for the shoot,!................

:nono::nono::nono:
be a man ... no need to give any excuses ... just tell the organizer the real reason/s. If you have no confidence in him or the shoot, tell him. Or if you have any personal problem, let him know. One day you may wear his shoes
and for goodness sake, don't wait until the last mins to cancel any appointment!:thumbsd:

 

[eileenksj]

yeah. thanks for the input i guess now everyone knows who the organizer is.

I feel the organizer may shoot but at the consent of us his customers or maybe after the whole thing a few quick ones not shoot every location and pose. He even posed her his way and just shoot. its like he cared only for himself. BTW he screwed up the model's make up as well... see mag in the afternoon an you know wad i mean!!

morning shots were pretty gd her makeup was light and all.

i wanted to bring reflectors but i tot since he said he providing why not.. end up that joker only brought his camera ba an his camera with nice flash unit FOR himself!!

This organiser is a real joker. I had a bad exprience with him with a shoot he organised.
1) the shoot was delayed almost an hour. Photographers were waiting aimlessly not knowing what is the delay. When the shoot is going to start then he explained.
2) shoot location was changed last min. from a posh place to a lowdown place.
3) there was drinks provided but is a few of those 1 litres bottles without cups. how are we suppose to drink without the cups.
4) the organiser itself was shooting. im ok with it if he is not standing in people's way. but he was even asking us to hold on asking the model to look at the pose on his mobile phone. we photographers was waiting behind for him.
5) props that was mentioned in the thread was not even seen at all.
6) and he even bring 2 accompanies that he brought. one did not shoot but the other shoot.

 

[glamourgraphy]

This organiser is a real joker. I had a bad exprience with him with a shoot he organised.
1) the shoot was delayed almost an hour. Photographers were waiting aimlessly not knowing what is the delay. When the shoot is going to start then he explained.
2) shoot location was changed last min. from a posh place to a lowdown place.
3) there was drinks provided but is a few of those 1 litres bottles without cups. how are we suppose to drink without the cups.
4) the organiser itself was shooting. im ok with it if he is not standing in people's way. but he was even asking us to hold on asking the model to look at the pose on his mobile phone. we photographers was waiting behind for him.
5) props that was mentioned in the thread was not even seen at all.
6) and he even bring 2 accompanies that he brought. one did not shoot but the other shoot.

This one is worse i think i know which shoot. He change the hotel from the one at Orchard/Raffles place (dunno which one) to............Hotel 81 !!!! :bigeyes: I think its the Camy shoot rite

 

[eileenksj]

This one is worse i think i know which shoot. He change the hotel from the one at Orchard/Raffles place (dunno which one) to............Hotel 81 !!!! :bigeyes: I think its the Camy shoot rite

Bingo.....

 

[Deadpoet]

It's not whether the organizer also shoots or not, but whether the organizer delivers. If the organizer delivers, who cares if he were also shooting?

If not, nothing else matters.

 

[Deadpoet]

This one is worse i think i know which shoot. He change the hotel from the one at Orchard/Raffles place (dunno which one) to............Hotel 81 !!!! :bigeyes: I think its the Camy shoot rite

Shouldn't the photographers demand a refund and WALK?

Then again, Hotel 81 cost $X, hotel at Orchard/Raffles cost $5X. The numbers won't work, and it's clearly a bait and switch, yet people joined, why? Wishful thinking? Caveat emptor.

 

[Canonised]

bros and sis, dont argue over such petty things ....

just for your information, long before your time, organizers NEVER provide refreshments at all. Photographers will have to buy their own during interval.
It is only here at CS that organizers got creative and competitive that they started serving home-made breakfast and drinks .... :dunno:

just take it that any refreshments provided is a bonus and you will be more appreciative. :sweatsm:

Dennisc, the organizer for the Sun shoot walked all the way (200m) to buy Frappuccino from Starbucks Coffee for all of us (must have cost him around $50). Frankly I never expected anything from him since the shoot is rather budget but that was a very generous act from him.