[ Opinion ] - Will You Buy The Olympus E-5?
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albertri
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I hope someone would give me E5+12-60 as my XMAS present also
lightchaser
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I will buy the E-5 also.
:bsmilie:
albertri
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I know bro "dream on albertri dream on" :bsmilie:
No no. I don't mean that. I also wish Santa sent me a E-5 as a Christmas present. I will add one more wish, 14-35mm SWD. :bsmilie:
albertri
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:angel:yes I'll be a good boy from now on:angel:
just want to put my two cents on this. The mods in 4/3rds are REALLY the more relaxed and friendly mods in CS.
From personal experience. I got my old CS account dereg for something much less that this... sigh, I have since learnt to post less... I also learnt that mods are also humans, and sometimes they do say things that are out of line, (not necessary refering to this case) BUT it is USELESS to argue to a MOD....
really.
microcosm
Senior Member
No no no... I think I did not articulate this well... in terms of cameras, the Canon 7D's AF system feels really snappy and sure with Canon lenses, and it felt faster than the E3 + 12-60SWD. If the E5 + 12-60SWD feels like that, it would be super, though the E3 + 12-60SWD is already fast enough for me on days when I don't feel like shooting manual focusing. So for me, in terms of AF speed, Canon 7D feels really nice. So that is my personal benchmark. Not an official comparison... Hope this clears up my bad articulation.
u probably gotta buy her a swanky bag and matching shoes/gown as well.. :bsmilie:
albertri
Senior Member
you suggesting bro that i bribe my missus? ;p:bsmilie: hmmm could work also haha
Well, let me jump in since I have been away. Firstly, I think Chua Beng was too sensitive. I was quite surprised by his response. Microcosm's response was quite appropriate and benign.
Secondly, I would buy the E5, if it were available in KL this weekend! :bsmilie:
Why? Because if I want to get something that has the equivalent of the E5, I need to pay up to 2 x the price, at least. Sure....its a smaller sensor, COMPARED to the APSC and the full-frame, and the low light is supposedly, not so great, but really, Im happy with my photos. I shoot great jpegs, and I dun waste time shooting RAW, or having to process RAW files. What I shoot, I literally and post nearly immediately with satisfactory to great results. Also, I only occasionally crop, since the FOV is 100%, what I compose, is exactly, what I needed.
What matters to me now is lack of IS. Cameras with no in-body IS, really, is more of trouble than anything. It means that u really have to be a professional and lug a tripod with you everywhere you go so that u can take tack-sharp photos. I went travelling recently and I had my E3/12-60 combo with me. I shot everything handheld----sunrise, landscape etc. No tripod. All my photos were tack sharp to me. There are a bunch of other people with me using Canon mostly, and some Nikon. Most of them were shooting with tripods. I dun know why, but it seems that they obviously feel that they NEED to shoot with tripods although I was shooting just fine hand-held. Perhaps they had to do mirror-lock (to neutralize mirror slap vibration) or they had to shoot at shutter speeds where they are not confident that there will be shakes. For me, I just dun see the need for the tripod, even for my sunrise shots....so.....I like to keep it simple and the E3 system, allows me to keep things simple...and light.
Secondly, I appreciate the comment about DOF....I think a lot of people judge camera performance using the camera's LCD. I know that the bokeh effect looks amazing on the camera LCD. But have you ever pixel peeped these photos. The bokeh may look great, but the areas which are supposedly sharp, u end up either with what alberti mentioned....one eye sharp, the other eye blur.....or there may be some motion blur because of lack of IS or mirror slap. So I second what was said, on the 4/3 system, I can shoot wide open and not worry about lack of DOF. Secondly, if I want bokeh, (which I actually rarely feel the need to - I dun know what is the preoccupation with it), I just shoot at f2 and keep the subject close, or I post-process for bokeh, both of which I honestly, have not felt the need to want to do. So actually, I am not concerned about this issue at all, but if someone feels that something needs to be proven, I am sure the 4/3 community can start a thread titled "Bokeh on 4/3 system" and everyone can post all their 4/3 bokehs, and we can all make a point.
So for practical and real reasons of cost, and overall system compactness (ie. no need to lug around tripod, shutter cable etc, and other ancillary stuff), I think the E5 is still a very high value system with very little or decreasing disadvantages (low light performance) compared to the other full-frame systems.
PS. Look at the new Canon 60D. See how they are marketing the 270 deg swivel LCD. They make it look like they are the pioneer. If only Olympus had the sense to market the E3 like this when it first came out. But of course, this is where perhaps, Olympus does not put enough money into...which is good...and bad at the same time.
Secondly, I would buy the E5, if it were available in KL this weekend! :bsmilie:
Why? Because if I want to get something that has the equivalent of the E5, I need to pay up to 2 x the price, at least. Sure....its a smaller sensor, COMPARED to the APSC and the full-frame, and the low light is supposedly, not so great, but really, Im happy with my photos. I shoot great jpegs, and I dun waste time shooting RAW, or having to process RAW files. What I shoot, I literally and post nearly immediately with satisfactory to great results. Also, I only occasionally crop, since the FOV is 100%, what I compose, is exactly, what I needed.
What matters to me now is lack of IS. Cameras with no in-body IS, really, is more of trouble than anything. It means that u really have to be a professional and lug a tripod with you everywhere you go so that u can take tack-sharp photos. I went travelling recently and I had my E3/12-60 combo with me. I shot everything handheld----sunrise, landscape etc. No tripod. All my photos were tack sharp to me. There are a bunch of other people with me using Canon mostly, and some Nikon. Most of them were shooting with tripods. I dun know why, but it seems that they obviously feel that they NEED to shoot with tripods although I was shooting just fine hand-held. Perhaps they had to do mirror-lock (to neutralize mirror slap vibration) or they had to shoot at shutter speeds where they are not confident that there will be shakes. For me, I just dun see the need for the tripod, even for my sunrise shots....so.....I like to keep it simple and the E3 system, allows me to keep things simple...and light.
Secondly, I appreciate the comment about DOF....I think a lot of people judge camera performance using the camera's LCD. I know that the bokeh effect looks amazing on the camera LCD. But have you ever pixel peeped these photos. The bokeh may look great, but the areas which are supposedly sharp, u end up either with what alberti mentioned....one eye sharp, the other eye blur.....or there may be some motion blur because of lack of IS or mirror slap. So I second what was said, on the 4/3 system, I can shoot wide open and not worry about lack of DOF. Secondly, if I want bokeh, (which I actually rarely feel the need to - I dun know what is the preoccupation with it), I just shoot at f2 and keep the subject close, or I post-process for bokeh, both of which I honestly, have not felt the need to want to do. So actually, I am not concerned about this issue at all, but if someone feels that something needs to be proven, I am sure the 4/3 community can start a thread titled "Bokeh on 4/3 system" and everyone can post all their 4/3 bokehs, and we can all make a point.
So for practical and real reasons of cost, and overall system compactness (ie. no need to lug around tripod, shutter cable etc, and other ancillary stuff), I think the E5 is still a very high value system with very little or decreasing disadvantages (low light performance) compared to the other full-frame systems.
PS. Look at the new Canon 60D. See how they are marketing the 270 deg swivel LCD. They make it look like they are the pioneer. If only Olympus had the sense to market the E3 like this when it first came out. But of course, this is where perhaps, Olympus does not put enough money into...which is good...and bad at the same time.
dorts
Senior Member
Totally agree with Oly5050.
The JPEGs from most, if not all Olympus cameras are perfect. For those who have known that I've switched to Canon, I can tell you, I have to change my workflow to accommodate RAW processing, as the JPEGs out of camera is :nono:.
And the comment regarding how bokeh looks nice on the LCD is quite true. LOL. View on a bigger screen and you'll realise how some parts are a little OOF.
Just some thoughts.
The JPEGs from most, if not all Olympus cameras are perfect. For those who have known that I've switched to Canon, I can tell you, I have to change my workflow to accommodate RAW processing, as the JPEGs out of camera is :nono:.
And the comment regarding how bokeh looks nice on the LCD is quite true. LOL. View on a bigger screen and you'll realise how some parts are a little OOF.
Just some thoughts.
albertri
Senior Member
Totally agree with Oly5050.
The JPEGs from most, if not all Olympus cameras are perfect. For those who have known that I've switched to Canon, I can tell you, I have to change my workflow to accommodate RAW processing, as the JPEGs out of camera is :nono:.
And the comment regarding how bokeh looks nice on the LCD is quite true. LOL. View on a bigger screen and you'll realise how some parts are a little OOF.
Just some thoughts.
ouch yeah true now I shoot RAW+Jpeg... hehehe When I was using my E620 I shoot jpeg only and the most PP I do is crop and maybe add dramatic effect by lowering the gamma. But I should have shoot RAW+JPEG with Oly I could have had even better photos :bsmilie:
When I move to APSC the usual 50mm f1.8 becomes very shallow, normally now I step down to 2 or even 2.8, I hardly shoot at 1.8 unless it's really low light...
mimin5zidane
Member
This is true. But i also use the tripod. I think its because i feel more comfortable with tripod and in my opinion, it is easier to compose my landscape. Well, that is my opinion anyway. However, everything that oly5050 said is definitely an olympus plus point. There are not as much olympus users as other major brands. But olympus users are the most satisfied ones.
And one of them is definitely me!
And one of them is definitely me!
mimin5zidane
Member
And if i had the money, i will upgrade my e-620 to e-5. But i think i will wait for a year or two. Maybe rumour has it that they are planning on continuing the 43rd body? Who knows. Just be patient is all i can do. I don't think 4/3 is dying anytime soon. But yes to an e-5!
http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-E-5-1...=sr_1_1?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1287584106&sr=1-1
saw on US Amazon (see link above) they selling at $1699. with US dollar going down and got free shipping not sure if this is the best deal.. :dunno:
anyway to answer the question, hell yes i'm buying E-5!! ;p
saw on US Amazon (see link above) they selling at $1699. with US dollar going down and got free shipping not sure if this is the best deal.. :dunno:
anyway to answer the question, hell yes i'm buying E-5!! ;p
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