Operation of RipVan100 Charger


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BigBelly

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Hi,

The sales of the Ripvan 100 Lightning 4000N charger is on again after the exchange from the manufacturer. However my gut feeling that there might be certain concerns from prospective buyers. So I hope this thread will clear up some of the questions.

Technical Background: There are three cut off techniques used by this charger. -dV, thermal and timer cut off. The -dV cut off is the main way of cutting of the charge and the other two are back up. The thermal cut off will occur when the temperature reaches 52 degrees before a charge time of 1hr 45min. The timer cut off is set at 3 hours.

The charger should go into trickle charge once the batteries have been fully charged (slow blinking light). If you do not see any blinking light, it means that the thermal or timer cut off has kicked in.

Q1. What happens if my charger does not go into trickle charge?
A1. Let the batteries cool down, make sure the charger is in mode 2 then switch on the charger again. Make sure that the cover of the charger is removed or open prior to charging to help keep the temperature lower.

Q2. The batteries get very hot during charging, is this normal?
A2. Yes, I believe it is normal. My recomendation is the remove the plastic cover when charging. You will realise that the GP and Sanyo quick chargers do not have covers. Eastgear told me that Maha also recomended that the cover of the Maha charger be removed during charging to facilicate heat loss.

Q3. Is it recomended that the plastic cover be opened or removed during charging?
A3. Yes, it is highly recomended.

Q4. The LED on one / both banks do not light up or lights up for only a while (<1min). What is wrong.
A4. Please contact Eastgear for a one to one exchange.

Q5. The charger still does not go into trickle charge. How?
A5. It is highly unlikely that there is a defect in the charger and we will conduct our own test. If there is a defect, there will be a one to one exchange.

Q6. Can the charge charge 2100mAh NiMH batteries?
A6. Yes it can.

Q7. Does this charger have individual terminals?
A7. No, the RipVan charger has two charging banks which takes in two batteries of the same chemmistry. This means that you can charge 2AA and 2AAA or 2NiMH and 2NiCD. The Maha chargers have individual terminals.

Q8. The charger claims to have 'cool' charging. How come it is still hot?
A7. In our opinion, most manufacturers claim to have a cool charging charger. However in most cases, there is a significant amount of heat being emitted. There is no harm to the batteries though.

Q9. One of the banks goes off after charging for about 15min to 1hour while the other bank is still charging.
A9. It is very likely that the batteries are not placed properly. Please ensure that the batteries are place snuggly and the batteries are not popping out.

Extra notes: Please realise that this charger is a highly advanced charger and it tries to give as much information to the end user as possible through different LED signals.

You will realise that the GP and Sanyo chargers do not let the user know if the batteries go into trickle charge. The LED for those chargers just cut off and hence the user will not be sure if the thermal or timer cut off has kicked in.

If there are any concerns or questions, please post so that there will be sharing of information.
 

Hi BigBelly...
I just got the RipVan charger from EastGear at 12pm....
hehe...
now charging the sanyo batts that i got from you yesterday..


Anyway nice piece of info you on the charger..
;)
 

Tested the Ripvan Battery charger yesterday.

3 Tests

1) Overnite charging. Cover not opened while charging. New set of Sanyo 2100 Battieries. The thermal control keeps on shutting down the charger. Using both mode 1 & 2.

2) Cover opened while charging using the previous set of batteries. Also uses a Fan to blow on the charger to keep temp low. Everything went smoothly using mode 1, Ard 270 - 300mins before it reaches Trickle mode. 180mins for Discharging. 120 for Charging.

2) Overnite charging. Cover opened but no fan is used. Mode1. New set of Sanyo 2100 Batteries. Ard 4hrs before reaching Trickle mode. 120mins for Discharging. 120 mins for Charging. Abit warm while charging but really cool when reach Trickle mode.

Great Charger. Thanks BigBelly.

Will keep on Testing on my other 2 new sets of Batteries.

btw I didn't recieved any receipt when i collected the Ripvan charger from you on Wed. Is there one?

Pls PM me back.
 

Originally posted by GoBLinBoY
Tested the Ripvan Battery charger yesterday.

3 Tests

1) Overnite charging. Cover not opened while charging. New set of Sanyo 2100 Battieries. The thermal control keeps on shutting down the charger. Using both mode 1 & 2.

2) Cover opened while charging using the previous set of batteries. Also uses a Fan to blow on the charger to keep temp low. Everything went smoothly using mode 1, Ard 270 - 300mins before it reaches Trickle mode. 180mins for Discharging. 120 for Charging.

2) Overnite charging. Cover opened but no fan is used. Mode1. New set of Sanyo 2100 Batteries. Ard 4hrs before reaching Trickle mode. 120mins for Discharging. 120 mins for Charging. Abit warm while charging but really cool when reach Trickle mode.

Great Charger. Thanks BigBelly.

Will keep on Testing on my other 2 new sets of Batteries.

btw I didn't recieved any receipt when i collected the Ripvan charger from you on Wed. Is there one?

Pls PM me back.

There is a receipt.
I got it direct from EastGear.
Receipt stated 1yr warranty.
:)
 

Great charger! (Thanks Bigbelly!)

However ran into a hiccup or two. Was charging a new set of 4 x 2100MAH Sanyos. Thunderstorm here decided to trip my circuit breaker while it was still charging (Estimated around 1 hr 50 mins passed) Left LED was already in trickle mode. Right one was still charging.

Switched on charger again, batts were already quite hot then. After another 10 mins had elapsed, left LED went off (Thermal control?) followed by right LED after another 5 mins.

Let batts cool down, now retrying again. Hopefully, it goes into trickle charge mode soon. Otherwise, batts spoiled? :dunno:

Both LEDs went into trickle charge mode after 5 mins from the point I continued after the batts cooled down.:thumbsup:
 

Thank you all for the positive feedback about the charger.

I must admit that the charger is quite sensitive to heat. Drifter is also experiencing some auto cut off problems with his charger.

The main thing is to open or remove the cover and use mode 2. use mode 1 only when necessary as discharging at 300mA generates quite a lot of heat which will contribute to the temperature increase.

If your CHG2000PDSC charger is cut off due to overheating, leave the charger to cool for about an hour, then charge the batteries in mode 2 again. I believe you will experience what Bloodlust has (the batteries go into tricke charger soon after) implying that the batteries are already fully charged.

If you have anymore questions, please feel free to ask here.
 

Hi BigBelly,

Just curious to know... when should we use the discharge function? (Mode 1)... after photography shoots during which the batteries are not exhaust?

Newbie in rechargable batts (except in HP) ;p

Thanks,
Eric
 

Hi,

Everyone has it own opinion, for me, I do not use the discharge function normally. I only use it say once every 2-3 months depending on useage.

Some have suggested doing a discharge once every 5 chargers. Perhaps it could be a good guide.

It is perfectly fine to do a mode 1 cycle everytime also. No problems. Just that a lot of heat is generated and i am afraid that the temperature sensor will kick in and disrupt the charge cycle.

Originally posted by ESee
Hi BigBelly,

Just curious to know... when should we use the discharge function? (Mode 1)... after photography shoots during which the batteries are not exhaust?

Newbie in rechargable batts (except in HP) ;p

Thanks,
Eric
 

Tested this Ripvan charger & SanyoAA 2100mah. I mean tested it for 10 whole days of continuos charging & discharging (both using the internal & also self made discharger, i used 3 units to test).

Unbelievable results. It charged the 2100mah to 97% capacity after 2 to 3 hours of trickling after the initial charge.
The batteries gave more consistent power than the previous Sanyo 1700mah green & 1850mah retail. The sanyo will charged up to 400 times staying at 97% (tested with 1850 Sanyo), after that will yield a 90% charge for another 200times b4 going to 80% (unusable voltage).

No problem at all, the charger did everything according to specs. You have to make sure u dont charge a FULL power set, or else your batteries will be hot & the charger will cut off after reaching the 50degrees mark. Use a voltmeter to check first.

With the Energizer Alkaline E2 rated at 3300mah, who would want a alkaline battery in any medium drain devices.

I got the US plug type & an adapter for mobility purpose.:)
 

Originally posted by NSX

With the Energizer Alkaline E2 rated at 3300mah, who would want a alkaline battery in any medium drain devices.

I got the US plug type & an adapter for mobility purpose.:)

Err...actually the Energizer Battery is rated only at 756mAh.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM

Anyway for those interested in the RipVan100 charger, I'm organising a mass order & collection this coming wednesday (12th March) evening at Peninsula Basement Foodcourt, please see:
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26816http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26816
 

Wat does it mean by not "charging a full power set"?

Originally posted by NSX
Tested this Ripvan charger & SanyoAA 2100mah. I mean tested it for 10 whole days of continuos charging & discharging (both using the internal & also self made discharger, i used 3 units to test).

Unbelievable results. It charged the 2100mah to 97% capacity after 2 to 3 hours of trickling after the initial charge.
The batteries gave more consistent power than the previous Sanyo 1700mah green & 1850mah retail. The sanyo will charged up to 400 times staying at 97% (tested with 1850 Sanyo), after that will yield a 90% charge for another 200times b4 going to 80% (unusable voltage).

No problem at all, the charger did everything according to specs. You have to make sure u dont charge a FULL power set, or else your batteries will be hot & the charger will cut off after reaching the 50degrees mark. Use a voltmeter to check first.

With the Energizer Alkaline E2 rated at 3300mah, who would want a alkaline battery in any medium drain devices.

I got the US plug type & an adapter for mobility purpose.:)
 

FULL Power set means less than 10 days old fully charged batteries. The energizer 1850mah AA is made by Sanyo, exactly the same, along with KODAK 1850mah....Just that i bought the 1850mah AA Energizer in Malaysia.
 

i totally agree with you on the thermal cut off if you try to do a mode 1 charge. too much heat is emitted which triggers off the thermal cut off.

Originally posted by NSX
No problem at all, the charger did everything according to specs. You have to make sure u dont charge a FULL power set, or else your batteries will be hot & the charger will cut off after reaching the 50degrees mark. Use a voltmeter to check first.
 

If a set of 4 flat batteries (after removing all 4 together from digicam) is placed into the charger, how come the 2 pairs:

- do not discharge for equally long time?
- do not reach tickle mode at the same time?

Is it something normal? because I assume the 4 batteries should have the same level of 'power' left.

Thanks in advance.
 

If u have 4 AA batteries. Dont assume everyone of them is discharged to the same level. One or more battery might not be in the same chemistry as the other. Like worn out tyres. Unless u have a voltmeter & a battery analyzer, u cannot tell precisely the capacity of one battery.
 

whats the online manual page ?

and can it really take aaa batteries ? cuz I read on the online manaul (lost the link) that it can't. but accroding to the treads here it CAN ?

confused !! help pls ! also any more MO of AAA batteries ? would love to get some

Thanks !
 

Is there a device to check how full the battery is ? Thanks

Originally posted by NSX
Tested this Ripvan charger & SanyoAA 2100mah. I mean tested it for 10 whole days of continuos charging & discharging (both using the internal & also self made discharger, i used 3 units to test).

Unbelievable results. It charged the 2100mah to 97% capacity after 2 to 3 hours of trickling after the initial charge.
The batteries gave more consistent power than the previous Sanyo 1700mah green & 1850mah retail. The sanyo will charged up to 400 times staying at 97% (tested with 1850 Sanyo), after that will yield a 90% charge for another 200times b4 going to 80% (unusable voltage).

No problem at all, the charger did everything according to specs. You have to make sure u dont charge a FULL power set, or else your batteries will be hot & the charger will cut off after reaching the 50degrees mark. Use a voltmeter to check first.

With the Energizer Alkaline E2 rated at 3300mah, who would want a alkaline battery in any medium drain devices.

I got the US plug type & an adapter for mobility purpose.:)
 

To check how full a battery is very tricky. I guess u need a voltameter, then an amp meter, then some ridiculous hours in testing them. or shot & count the number of pictures with flash on the same wall in your room!

Good luck
 

Anyone knows it this charger is able to charge GP 1600mA batteries?
 

Originally posted by midreef
Anyone knows it this charger is able to charge GP 1600mA batteries?
Of course it can! :)
 

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