Once sold can be deleted by the owner

[airforce1]

Proposed Can clubsnap follow like Nature online forum where Once item sold the thread can be deleted.It will be great help making the Buy N sell thread refinement and will be productive in terms of what threads left is still validated.Keep it simple and short.

Anyone support these move Let's vote for it implementations.

 

[lavenderlilz]

Proposed Can clubsnap follow like Nature online forum where Once item sold the thread can be deleted.It will be great help making the Buy N sell thread refinement and will be productive in terms of what threads left is still validated.Keep it simple and short.

Anyone support these move Let's vote for it implementations.

i second that

 

[snappist]

I do not support deleting "sold" threads.

Sold threads serves a good historical record of what is the market value of second/third hand goods for current or new sellers/buyers. This will form a basis for the market to gauge how much to set the market price and for sellers to gauge how much is the item worth before inspection.

I, for one, have referred to much "sold" threads when making purchases and selling items. It forms much of the thought and decision making process into what is known as an "informed decision".

Rather than delete the whole thread and all valuable information.
I think an option to mark the item as sold could be good so that the item can be quickly identified as sold.

Other than that, naturally untouched threads that are sold will be in the backseat and not appear in the frontlines. I do not see much difficulty in reaching that conclusion for most forumers.

 

[Zerstorer]

The reason for making the buy/sell posts tamper-proof was to provide some form of reference in the event of disputes.

IMO allowing the thread to be closed is good enough.

The admin can then do periodic maintenance by shifting all the closed threads to an additional archive forum specifically meant for it.

 

[Darren]

snappist and zerstorer have hit the nail right on the head with their comments.

We do not envisage any other changes to Buy & Sell other than the recently implement "Thread Closed" function.

 

[Pinoy]

I think an option to mark the item as sold could be good so that the item can be quickly identified as sold.

Darren has already provided an option to CLOSE a B&S thread, in response to this request

I for one feel that the current rules at B&S are good enough to protect both buyer and seller from any errr... misunderstanding.

:Later,

 

[Newman]

I think deleting b&s threads would also encourage frauds. :nono:

 

[jOhO]

well sometimes the b/s threads consists of just the ads, pple saying u have PM, and after 4 or 5 such posts (including banal talk) the thread owner will say "item sold, thank you"

wat record or reference or market price "guide" is there?

just my 2c, yeah threads should be closed rather than deleted. however many items that are sold are not closed too. *shrug* bad ettiquette on the seller's part? :dunno:

 

[snappist]

more due to lack of awareness and maybe not knowing the norms and practice. With more awareness, proper way of doing things could be seen. I am guilty of it myself, I do not know that threads could be closed by the poster.

 

[Darren]

more due to lack of awareness and maybe not knowing the norms and practice. With more awareness, proper way of doing things could be seen. I am guilty of it myself, I do not know that threads could be closed by the poster.

The ability to close threads is ONLY in Buy & Sell and was ONLY activated this week. I will post an update to the guidelines thread (as if anyone reads that!)

 

[binbeto]

Not pointing my finger at anyone...

Just an observation.

Mod can actually delete and edit the post. There is some who unknowingly did it.

For better transparency sholdn't this be across the board?

 

[Edmund]

Not pointing my finger at anyone...

Just an observation.

Mod can actually delete and edit the post. There is some who unknowingly did it.

For better transparency sholdn't this be across the board?

Mods are not barred from doing this as they are given a responsiblity and are expected not to abuse it.

If they have to exert their rights to edit/delete posts, it is almost certainly done for a good reason that the rest of the admin team can support.

 

[denizenx]

hmmm if I want to edit so I can remove my contact number after a transaction then how?
ok to ask mod to do it?

 

[Parchiao]

Lets face it, this is not some fanciful software that can be tweeked for optimum buying and selling, aka like those yahoo auctions, eBay or pacnet classifieds. Just use this as a way of advertising your for sale item, think in terms of this as a method of giving your item more exposure to the right people, and it will be good enough. Better still, list your item on yahoo auctions, and advertise here with a link.

 

[OzOn3]

Woo touchy..

For denizenx, i guess you don't post your number online ar. Just request people to obtain it through PM. You make being a moderator sound like a "tool". Haha.

Actually i think the forum is pretty well organized already. But here's one suggestion: Have a seperate sub-forum to contain all the closed and sold and dead thread. Like B/S threads not active after a month or something like that..

2cents.

 

[Bean]

Mods are not barred from doing this as they are given a responsiblity and are expected not to abuse it.

If they have to exert their rights to edit/delete posts, it is almost certainly done for a good reason that the rest of the admin team can support.

Maybe what binbeto is referring to are the following example?

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=47661
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=48308
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=48458
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=49827

I believe they did it unknowingly and not to blame anyone here, but just to highlight binbeto's concerns.

 

[Edmund]

Maybe what binbeto is referring to are the following example?

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=47661
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=48308
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=48458
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=49827

I believe they did it unknowingly and not to blame anyone here, but just to highlight binbeto's concerns.

Perhaps I din make myself clear enough.

Mods are around for a good reason. To carry out their duties, they are given extra rights that normal users do not have. These rights allow them to move/delete/edit posts when necessary irregardless of whatever restrictions that are placed on normal users.

When I say they "are expected not to abuse it", I am also saying that since these people are given added responsibilities, they are not expected to try to purposely mislead potential buyers/sellers. Hence, there is no need to bar Mods from editing posts within Buy/Sell. If a Mod does abuse their rights in anyway (for e.g. editing posts for the purpose of misleading others), you can be damn sure that the Mod will be severely censured or even removed if the situation demands it.

 

[USM]

Is there any incidents that the Moderators/Administrators abuse their authorities or not following the rules?

I personally have a encounter before whereby the "Admin" deleted his Sale thread after the item had been sold. I asked him how and why he did it? He told me tt he is the "Admin", and the items has been sold, so no point keeping it as more people would call him to enquire, etc.

Then I asked him can my closed deal threads be deleted since they have been sold? He then asked me to email to the Mode. to do it but how to do it given the rules stated down. :dunno:

It's no big deal afterall but it gave me the impression that bec he is the Admin, therefore, he can do anything under the sun.

I do not want to put down the person's name as there is no point engaging in arugements and so for. I just merely want to share wth u guys my encounter.

To all Admin/Mod. no hard feeling, pls.

 

[Larry]

Maybe what binbeto is referring to are the following example?

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=47661
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=48308
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=48458
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=49827

I believe they did it unknowingly and not to blame anyone here, but just to highlight binbeto's concerns.

perhaps i should explain, since my thread was one of those highlighted (the first one in fact). as a matter of fact, i don't remember editing that thread, but i obviously did since there's a record there.

if i'm not wrong, i probably went into the same thread to edit some wrong coding or words (i'm a stickler for tidiness and correct language). i'm assuming the fact that if i had not been the moderator, i would have approached a moderator to change it anyway.

under no circumstances have i used my mod's "powers" to change or falsify any impt info, and i believe my track record here speaks for itself. the same goes for my fellow mods as well, I have never come across any hints of such abuse, and i monitor B&S threads pretty tightly since i'm one of the mods there.

i do understand binbeto and Bean's concerns, but i sincerely believe that moderators are placed in trusted positions and entrusted with such powers simply because of that - they are trusted.