OFFICIAL: CANON EOS 5D Mark III - User Thread - Part 4

[eggie87]

for those super fast lens that DOF is super shallow one

Yeah..the subject still become blur

 

[ageha]

I think they test with single point is much more accurate than with all the points.. Obviously if 61 af points vs 39 af points, u know who the Winner.. Correct my if I'm wrong

Exactly! That's why I asked if they did it with the whole array or just with the center...

 

[JinG14]

Congratulations on your new 5D3! Did you get it from the B&S?

Yup got it from BnS section. I try to pair it with a battery grip . Feel nice when I shoot in portrait mode. However when we shoot in manual mode, it become a kind of difficult to change aperture in portrait mode as the roller is out of my thumb position.

 

[dodgethis]

You know you can set the front wheel to change the aperture instead?

 

[JinG14]

You know you can set the front wheel to change the aperture instead?

yup i just find out. but can we can change shutter speed on the front wheel too if we set aperture on the front wheel?
because in manual mode, i would need to change both aperture or shutter speed fast

 

[LiQuiFireX]

yup i just find out. but can we can change shutter speed on the front wheel too if we set aperture on the front wheel?
because in manual mode, i would need to change both aperture or shutter speed fast

Use Av or Tv mode then if you want things fast. Otherwise, set it up before u rotate to take the shot.

 

[eggie87]

Use Av or Tv mode then if you want things fast. Otherwise, set it up before u rotate to take the shot.

Our just use p....

 

[Halfmoon]

Our just use p....

Most convenient mode.......

 

[dodgethis]

yup i just find out. but can we can change shutter speed on the front wheel too if we set aperture on the front wheel?
because in manual mode, i would need to change both aperture or shutter speed fast

You have to choose either one. You cannot always have your cake and eat it.

 

[avsquare]

yup i just find out. but can we can change shutter speed on the front wheel too if we set aperture on the front wheel?
because in manual mode, i would need to change both aperture or shutter speed fast

Is your hand that small?

IDK. I never had a problem with Canon's and I think the back dial design is pretty good. I have a slight preference with Canon's design compared to Nikon's cos I find it easier for my thumb to do a "merry-go-round" turn on Canon's back dial compared to the smaller back dial on Nikon's (or even Pentax's, since it's similar design).

 

[doodah]

Yeah..the subject still become blur

Super shallow DOF is definitely not everyone's cup of tea. If it's not desirable, then the need for FF camera should also not be there IMO; APS-C, m43 or even compact cameras will suffice. I have seen many folks who invest heavily in FF gear only to realize they don't really need it.

 

[Halfmoon]

Is your hand that small?

IDK. I never had a problem with Canon's and I think the back dial design is pretty good. I have a slight preference with Canon's design compared to Nikon's cos I find it easier for my thumb to do a "merry-go-round" turn on Canon's back dial compared to the smaller back dial on Nikon's (or even Pentax's, since it's similar design).

I actually preferred the Nikon back dial...... but I was already too deep into Canon lens, and I prefer the more modern looking style of the EF & EF-S lens........ so I stick with Canon......

 

[Halfmoon]

Super shallow DOF is definitely not everyone's cup of tea. If it's not desirable, then the need for FF camera should also not be there IMO; APS-C, m43 or even compact cameras will suffice. I have seen many folks who invest heavily in FF gear only to realize they don't really need it.

Shallow DOF is ok for some scenes, but if overused is quite boring.... and also depending on what you wanna achieve.....

FF at f2.8 is already pretty shallow DOF too.....

 

[avsquare]

I actually preferred the Nikon back dial...... but I was already too deep into Canon lens, and I prefer the more modern looking style of the EF & EF-S lens........ so I stick with Canon......

Actually both is good lah, just that I find the merry-go-round method easier than the Nikon back dial. Reason being when my thumb stretch to Canon's back dial, I just need to make one big movement and I can change the apertures from wide open to very narrow. Where as Nikon's back dial, I have to make multiple small movements to stop down the aperture.

Not a big issue lah.. Just my own preference.

 

[JinG14]

Is your hand that small?

IDK. I never had a problem with Canon's and I think the back dial design is pretty good. I have a slight preference with Canon's design compared to Nikon's cos I find it easier for my thumb to do a "merry-go-round" turn on Canon's back dial compared to the smaller back dial on Nikon's (or even Pentax's, since it's similar design).

With battery grip- yes a bit awkward when i try it out in tk foto.
Without BG- no issue

 

[avsquare]

With battery grip- yes a bit awkward when i try it out in tk foto.
Without BG- no issue

I know what you mean now. It's the weight. But soon you'll get used to it

But again if you're on 1DX with 70-200L II.. then you really need strong wrist power to get used to it :bsmilie:

 

[eggie87]

Is your hand that small?

IDK. I never had a problem with Canon's and I think the back dial design is pretty good. I have a slight preference with Canon's design compared to Nikon's cos I find it easier for my thumb to do a "merry-go-round" turn on Canon's back dial compared to the smaller back dial on Nikon's (or even Pentax's, since it's similar design).

My hand is small..even with my 60d sometimes i got a problem with stretching to the dial with my battery.. grip..so sad..my middle finger is like only 7cm or less long..

 

[doodah]

Shallow DOF is ok for some scenes, but if overused is quite boring.... and also depending on what you wanna achieve.....
FF at f2.8 is already pretty shallow DOF too.....

Shallow DOF is useful in isolating subject from cluttered background and/or foreground... However, like I said, some people don't like it very much: they want BOTH eyes and BOTH ears of subject to be in perfect focus EVERY time...

DOF of f/2.8 on FF can be shallow or deep depending on focal length and subject distance.

On another note, this EXIF analysis of the best Reuters photos in 2012, shows that 45.7% of street/journalistic photos are taken at f/2.8 or smaller aperture settings on FF cameras. This substantiates my view that APS-C and m43 are actually more than enough for most people since f/2.8 DOF can be easily achieved with f/1.4 and f/1.8 lenses on m43 and APS-C platforms respectively. As such, there is really no compelling reason for anyone to move into FF territory unless one desires super shallow DOF.

 

[ageha]

My hand is small..even with my 60d sometimes i got a problem with stretching to the dial with my battery.. grip..so sad..my middle finger is like only 7cm or less long..

You need a finger extender.

 

[Halfmoon]

Actually both is good lah, just that I find the merry-go-round method easier than the Nikon back dial. Reason being when my thumb stretch to Canon's back dial, I just need to make one big movement and I can change the apertures from wide open to very narrow. Where as Nikon's back dial, I have to make multiple small movements to stop down the aperture.

Not a big issue lah.. Just my own preference.

I think it is a matter of getting used to it...... I gotten used to them, so quite ok....

but I need to wear a glove so that I would not overstretch my thumb..... I think maybe 7D grip too wide??? no such problem with 400D.... :think: