NS

[sheree]

not to scare u guys or anythign but...

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20090425/tap-820-second-saf-regular-serviceman-de-231650b.html

another ns man just died

 

[raptor1988]

not to scare u guys or anythign but...

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20090425/tap-820-second-saf-regular-serviceman-de-231650b.html

another ns man just died

yeah.. 2nd death in recent times. RIP guys.

 

[Yappy]

pls do not generalize or stereotype...nt all ppl tat age acts tat way...

n character building in ns? sorry to say tat in ns u learn more wrong character than good 1...

i do agree we need a army to protect ourselves and we are able to build bond in ns...but with the current system and ppl...it will only make ppl hate ns...y? coz we are treated like cheap labour than a human...in ns we basically have lost our human rights in short...

It is how you look at NS.

Are you saying what you learnt prior to and after NS are all of good values?

Are U saying that you can fight a war without training? U only need them during emergency. But if you dont train them now, it will be too late..

So what are the treatment you think you should be getting.... if you strongly feel that there is ill treatment, voice it out.

I think there are some unscrupulous soldier out there who abuse and missue their authority. However, these happened everywhere! If they dont treat their soldier well, during emergency, the first to be short will be these soldiers and by their own ppl!

The saying.. To have peace, prepare for WAR.

 

[+evenstar]

if one is used to the "abuse" by higher ranking staff in SAF, at least it keeps us mentally prepared if there's ever war and we become POW..

i have a cousin who's a recce..and he was telling us about the POW part of their training..we can look back and laugh at the experience now, but should the real thing comes, at least we have a picture of what's going on and how to react.

 

[loserow]

of course we all curse and swear when we are in the army... or doing things that we think are cheap labour...

but NS is necessary. For the security of the nation.

And NS is getting better and better. 2 years, 5 days... And think... scores of ppl have went thr NS.

 

[Yappy]

if one is used to the "abuse" by higher ranking staff in SAF, at least it keeps us mentally prepared if there's ever war and we become POW..

i have a cousin who's a recce..and he was telling us about the POW part of their training..we can look back and laugh at the experience now, but should the real thing comes, at least we have a picture of what's going on and how to react.

Only those who had gone through the POW training know what it is all about. The rule is simple. If you fail this, the chances of you being appointed as an army officer is almost zero.

 

[raptor1988]

Remember to observe Op Sec.. Don't reveal anything you're not supposed to. :nono:

 

[TheTengTheory]

i haven't gone through it myself yet but i personally think so what...its two years....if i didn't have to do it i probably wouldn't...but since we have to do it as citizens then might as well get the most out of it....

and plus from what i've seen, alot of singaporean kids these days are wayyy too sheltered...everyone handed to them on a platter. NS will/should give them a kick in the rear and a reality check.

 

[romeo tango]

food for thought:
many regulars tat joined the SAF is nt because of passion,pride or integrity...but for the money...

HI,

Don't know where you get that notion (no offence intended), but I signed on with the intention to serve and to protect and I do believed that there are many others out there that shared my thoughts

Served 8 years and volunteer to go back reservist barely 2 months after I ROD

 

[singscott]

i haven't gone through it myself yet but i personally think so what...its two years....if i didn't have to do it i probably wouldn't...but since we have to do it as citizens then might as well get the most out of it....

and plus from what i've seen, alot of singaporean kids these days are wayyy too sheltered...everyone handed to them on a platter. NS will/should give them a kick in the rear and a reality check.

Nehh now a days NS is a cake walk for these singapore kids. I swear I seen junior ranks men talk to their officer "like friend that can joke and pull fun at the officer" my time we will go to detention barrack if we do that. My time OO is not accessible but now I like they are petty busy. With king coil beds, internet access and the new 3rd generation army officer that say please to their order.

 

[Buggy]

imo. ns is necessary. just look at the big picture.

 

[dreamerz]

It is how you look at NS.

Are you saying what you learnt prior to and after NS are all of good values?

Are U saying that you can fight a war without training? U only need them during emergency. But if you dont train them now, it will be too late..

So what are the treatment you think you should be getting.... if you strongly feel that there is ill treatment, voice it out.

I think there are some unscrupulous soldier out there who abuse and missue their authority. However, these happened everywhere! If they dont treat their soldier well, during emergency, the first to be short will be these soldiers and by their own ppl!

The saying.. To have peace, prepare for WAR.

i oot from bmt due to spine injury...so im a REC awaiting recourse...but im in service for nearly 1yr...n there is some spec/officer think they very big...gone thru sispec/ocs...can yaya...dun treat us with respect...so is this kind of treatment i should get for serving ns?...voice out to my csm liao...he talk to the spec n officer...but so wat? they still dun treat us with respect...they do things behind ur back...u nv noe...

i dun blame the implementation of ns... but its the system n ppl in saf tat made ppl hate saf so much...

 

[dreamerz]

HI,

Don't know where you get that notion (no offence intended), but I signed on with the intention to serve and to protect and I do believed that there are many others out there that shared my thoughts

Served 8 years and volunteer to go back reservist barely 2 months after I ROD

lol...how i noe? coz i noe alot of csm n oc...when working with them, i casually asked them y they sign on...8-9/10 tell me they sign up for the money n education...n many tell me they regretted signing on...

 

[+evenstar]

Nehh now a days NS is a cake walk for these singapore kids. I swear I seen junior ranks men talk to their officer "like friend that can joke and pull fun at the officer" my time we will go to detention barrack if we do that. My time OO is not accessible but now I like they are petty busy. With king coil beds, internet access and the new 3rd generation army officer that say please to their order.

that's because these days, your PC can be someone you know (same batch). when i was in camp, i knew 2 of the PCs from schooling days. even my BMT PC was my school senior

 

[redstone]

that's because these days, your PC can be someone you know (same batch). when i was in camp, i knew 2 of the PCs from schooling days. even my BMT PC was my school senior

wah so coincidental

 

[Tango Wasp]

I am glad to have served my 2.5 years. I learnt a lot of flowery terms in different dialects/languages, how to act blur when I am lazy and how to move fast when the need arises.

Did NS serve me well? I say a definitive YES. Back in the 90s when I was send to work overseas and that country was undergoing major upheaval. I am glad that my training allowed me to stay calm when the order came to evacaute. Those that had served NS helped the whole team move decisively and we got everyone home.

Eventually, I got a watch to show for my efforts (& the yearly income tax deduction too) - that watch's compass also got me out of the snow blitz when I lost my way driving in Germany.

So go serve and the experience will repay you many times in many different ways.

 

[kohweeloon]

sometimes i don't get it. it only NS. what the big deal. suck it in and deal with it.

 

[Tango Wasp]

sometimes i don't get it. it only NS. what the big deal. suck it in and deal with it.

Hear hear...

 

[raptor1988]

sometimes i don't get it. it only NS. what the big deal. suck it in and deal with it.

haha.. my dad has this mentality too.. When i was bitching about BMT, he'll go 想当年... :sweat:

 

[+evenstar]

haha.. my dad has this mentality too.. When i was bitching about BMT, he'll go 想当年... :sweat:

and you should reply.."dad, policemen wore shorts during your time";p