Nikkor 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED and 800mm f/5.6E FL ED VR lenses officially announced


Blur Shadow said:
I was referring to the time of the 6MP era, where we only have the cheaper APS-C cameras, the advanced APS-H sensors and the pioneer FF models. The 17-40mm is only useful (and probably solely due to its value then outright quality) at the higher end models of yester-year. The 17-40mm had no place in the crop sensor cameras.

In today's world of incredibly powerful full frame sensors, it is my contention that the 17-40mm f/4 is redundant, kept alive by budget FF photographers, which I think is an odd category.
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Quite frankly, I don't think budget FF users are odd. If anything, they will be increasing in numbers given the introduction of D600 and 6D.
 

Kit said:
Quite frankly, I don't think budget FF users are odd. If anything, they will be increasing in numbers given the introduction of D600 and 6D.
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Hmm... I cannot deny that the Nikon D600 and the Canon 6D has unlocked a new market segment. And I certainly get your point, because these folks are appearing by the hundreds daily. Still, I cannot help but wonder why one would go for a good quality full frame camera only to cripple oneself with a mediocre lens? I can only imagine that they are either misinformed or limited by financial considerations, by which they may be happier with a DX or APS-C solution.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the reviews for this latest Nikon variable aperture lens!
 

Blur Shadow said:
Hmm... I cannot deny that the Nikon D600 and the Canon 6D has unlocked a new market segment. And I certainly get your point, because these folks are appearing by the hundreds daily. Still, I cannot help but wonder why one would go for a good quality full frame camera only to cripple oneself with a mediocre lens? I can only imagine that they are either misinformed or limited by financial considerations, by which they may be happier with a DX or APS-C solution.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the reviews for this latest Nikon variable aperture lens!
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What has the format to do with the quality of the equipment? Nothing. It's time to get back to where we were more than 15 years ago.
 

Blur Shadow said:
Hmm... I cannot deny that the Nikon D600 and the Canon 6D has unlocked a new market segment. And I certainly get your point, because these folks are appearing by the hundreds daily. Still, I cannot help but wonder why one would go for a good quality full frame camera only to cripple oneself with a mediocre lens? I can only imagine that they are either misinformed or limited by financial considerations, by which they may be happier with a DX or APS-C solution.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the reviews for this latest Nikon variable aperture lens!
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That's because you have the impression that the 17-40mm is not good. I don't know what you might have experienced or heard but this lens is a great bang for the buck considering the performance of the earlier wide angle zooms. Like I mentioned before, I've got no problem using it with a 5D MKII, even for commercial work.
 

Kit said:
That's because you have the impression that the 17-40mm is not good. I don't know what you might have experienced or heard but this lens is a great bang for the buck considering the performance of the earlier wide angle zooms. Like I mentioned before, I've got no problem using it with a 5D MKII, even for commercial work.
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Heh. Perhaps it is just me then!
 

DEF BE BUYING TWO OF THE 800MM !!

hahaha...... :)

But to be honest..... this IS now the sharpest NIKKOR ever looking at the MTF !! Wow !!
 

Kit said:
Higher resolution also demand better camera handling techniques. Yes, people are complaining about ultra high resolution cameras. On the other hand, I still see people insisting that they can handhold 1/8th sec shots with the latest and greatest VR/IS. There you go.
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Blur Shadow said:
Hahaha! Yes. I am always so amazed by such people and their purported skills.
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Hmm I don't use VR/IS extensively to comment, but I do note that the latest VR III lens - the 70-200mm f/4's acclaimed 5-stop VR is as good as it claims.

I did manage to get sharp photos at 1/6s at 200mm over 50% of the time, but that's on a D600. I don't think it will 1/6s on 200mm on a D800 will make it though. :bsmilie:

Edit: posted a sample of 1/6s, 200mm at the 70-200mm f/4 VR III thread some time ago :)
 

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avsquare said:
Hmm I don't use VR/IS extensively to comment, but I do note that the latest VR III lens - the 70-200mm f/4's acclaimed 5-stop VR is as good as it claims.

I did manage to get sharp photos at 1/6s at 200mm over 50% of the time, but that's on a D600. I don't think it will 1/6s on 200mm on a D800 will make it though. :bsmilie:

Edit: posted a sample of 1/6s, 200mm at the 70-200mm f/4 VR III thread some time ago :)
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That's fine if you have a realistic expectation of the results.
 

Any idea what the SG pricing is for the 18-35?
Silent on Nikon SG website.
 

Comparison with the Canon.


Price USD 17,899

[TABLE="width: 496"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Performance
Focal Length
800 mm
Comparable DX Focal Length: 1200 mm
Aperture
Maximum: f/5.6
Minimum: f/32
Camera Mount Type
Nikon F
Format Compatibility
Nikon FX/35mm Film
Nikon DX
Angle of View
3° 10"
DX Picture Angle: 2°
Minimum Focus Distance
19.36' (5.9 m)
Maximum Reproduction Ratio
1:6.6
Groups/Elements
13/20
Diaphragm Blades
9

[TABLE="width: 496"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Features
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Image Stabilization
[/TD]
[TD]Yes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Autofocus
[/TD]
[TD]Yes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tripod Collar
[/TD]
[TD]Yes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 496"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Physical
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Filter Thread
[/TD]
[TD]52 mm
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dimensions (DxL)
[/TD]
[TD]Approx. 6.30 x 18.15" (160 x 461 mm)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight
[/TD]
[TD]10.12 lb (4.59 kg)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[/TD]
[TD]
Price USD13,249

[TABLE="width: 462"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Performance
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Focal Length
[/TD]
[TD]800 mm
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Aperture
[/TD]
[TD]Maximum: f/5.6
Minimum: f/32
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Camera Mount Type
[/TD]
[TD]Canon EF
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Format Compatibility
[/TD]
[TD]35mm Film / Full-Frame Digital Sensor
Canon (APS-C)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Angle of View
[/TD]
[TD]3.5°
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Minimum Focus Distance
[/TD]
[TD]19.7' (6 m)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Magnification
[/TD]
[TD]0.14x
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Maximum Reproduction Ratio
[/TD]
[TD]1:7.14
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Groups/Elements
[/TD]
[TD]14/18
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Diaphragm Blades
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 462"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Features
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Image Stabilization
[/TD]
[TD]Yes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Autofocus
[/TD]
[TD]Yes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tripod Collar
[/TD]
[TD]Yes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 462"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Physical
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Filter Thread
[/TD]
[TD]52 mm
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dimensions (DxL)
[/TD]
[TD]Approx. 6.4 x 18.1" (16.26 x 45.97 cm)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight
[/TD]
[TD]9.9 lb (4.49 kg)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 

boxerfan said:
Any idea what the SG pricing is for the 18-35?
Silent on Nikon SG website.
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Nothing new here. Nikon SG publishes prices one hour after it hits the local stores usually. They are pretty fast here.
 

An drew said:
Comparison with the Canon.

Price USD 17,899

[TABLE="width: 496"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Performance
Focal Length800 mm
Comparable DX Focal Length: 1200 mm
ApertureMaximum: f/5.6
Minimum: f/32
Camera Mount TypeNikon F
Format CompatibilityNikon FX/35mm Film
Nikon DX
Angle of View3° 10"
DX Picture Angle: 2°
Minimum Focus Distance19.36' (5.9 m)
Maximum Reproduction Ratio1:6.6
Groups/Elements13/20
Diaphragm Blades9

[TABLE="width: 496"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Features[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Image Stabilization[/TD]
[TD]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Autofocus[/TD]
[TD]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tripod Collar[/TD]
[TD]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 496"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Physical[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Filter Thread[/TD]
[TD]52 mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dimensions (DxL)[/TD]
[TD]Approx. 6.30 x 18.15" (160 x 461 mm)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight[/TD]
[TD]10.12 lb (4.59 kg)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[/TD]
[TD]Price USD13,249

[TABLE="width: 462"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Performance[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Focal Length[/TD]
[TD]800 mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Aperture[/TD]
[TD]Maximum: f/5.6
Minimum: f/32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Camera Mount Type[/TD]
[TD]Canon EF[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Format Compatibility[/TD]
[TD]35mm Film / Full-Frame Digital Sensor
Canon (APS-C)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Angle of View[/TD]
[TD]3.5°[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Minimum Focus Distance[/TD]
[TD]19.7' (6 m)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Magnification[/TD]
[TD]0.14x[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Maximum Reproduction Ratio[/TD]
[TD]1:7.14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Groups/Elements[/TD]
[TD]14/18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Diaphragm Blades[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 462"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Features[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Image Stabilization[/TD]
[TD]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Autofocus[/TD]
[TD]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tripod Collar[/TD]
[TD]Yes[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 462"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Physical[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Filter Thread[/TD]
[TD]52 mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dimensions (DxL)[/TD]
[TD]Approx. 6.4 x 18.1" (16.26 x 45.97 cm)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight[/TD]
[TD]9.9 lb (4.49 kg)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Quite a price difference, it has be a lot better.
 

Dfive said:
DEF BE BUYING TWO OF THE 800MM !!

hahaha...... :)

But to be honest..... this IS now the sharpest NIKKOR ever looking at the MTF !! Wow !!
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agreed, it is amazing
 

niccon2 said:
from chart on the sharpness, yes.
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ageha said:
Don't forget it's a calculated chart, not a measured one. ;)
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I "measure" it at 500-600mm more than the previous king/s of sharpness the 200mm f/2 and 300 f/2.8 ;) :)

If MTF correct this may be the sharpest thing around from any brand..... ??
 

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ageha said:
Don't forget it's a calculated chart, not a measured one. ;)
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I am not sure but I remembering reading somewhere that Nikon provides measured MTF charts while Canon's are calculated or computed MTF charts. I could be wrong.
 

An drew said:
I am not sure but I remembering reading somewhere that Nikon provides measured MTF charts while Canon's are calculated or computed MTF charts. I could be wrong.
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I think Carl Zeiss is pretty much the only lens maker who publishes measured MTF charts.
 

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