Next Camera to buy after C5050z?

[Goondoo]

Hi, your wild guess is quite accurate. The focusing function of most AF lenses is based on colour contrast. With more light entering (f2.8), the colour contrast is more obvious and focusing on the subject is much faster.

However, when the aperture is large (f2.8), the depth of field is very shallow, hence when we shoot macro, we use f22-f40 to increase the depth of field. We make up for the small amt of light through the use of strobes.

I pay a premium for lenses with large apertures when I need to shoot in situations with low light where I do not use any flash.

Going through the Canon's lense list. Most wide angle lense are F2.8 and above. Lenses with very low F value like 1 or 2 normally only present for portraits lenses and zoom, tele lenses for allowing faster shutterspeed.

with my limited knowledge, I believed that
1) there won't be much difference if we are both shooting at F8, using a C-5060 and a C-5050 at the same time.
2) C-5060 have a faster focusing speed than C-5050 after I tested, I remembered photosmart verified that too. So the brighter lense story doesn't really work. The reason I assumed why C-5060 have a higher F value is because it has a build in wide lense, just like C-7070. While C-5050 might have better value available for portraits shots.
3) focus speed depends not only on the lense, it depends on the mechanism that drives the lense and the CMOS that provide the instructions. Which is why USM lenses (in Canon) focus alot faster than non-USM ones, regardless of the F-value.

I believe Olympus is smart enough to use forward technology which they thinks benefit everyone more as a whole.

 

[waisj]

I guess the next thing to note would be performances with the attachments like wide angle lenses and macro lenses.

Can anyone verify whether the lens moves when in wide & telephoto?
and also how much wider would the UWL-100 be on the C7070.

 

[siaoon]

i dunno abt using it with UWL-100...
but found something abt 5060...
regarding the usage of the dome port between Olympus Housing and Ikelite Housing.


5060 Coverage In Degrees With Olympus and Ikelite Housings

Olympus Housing

No WAL Standard Port :56 deg.
With WAL PPO-2 Port:68 deg.

Ikelite Housing
No WAL Flat Port :56 deg.
No WAL Dome Port:78 deg.
With WAL Dome Port :97 deg.

WAL shld be the WCON-07C...

i think the diff of lens and its mechanism between 5060 and 7070 will be minimal..

 

[waisj]

i dunno abt using it with UWL-100...
but found something abt 5060...
regarding the usage of the dome port between Olympus Housing and Ikelite Housing.


5060 Coverage In Degrees With Olympus and Ikelite Housings

Olympus Housing

No WAL Standard Port :56 deg.
With WAL PPO-2 Port:68 deg.

Ikelite Housing
No WAL Flat Port :56 deg.
No WAL Dome Port:78 deg.
With WAL Dome Port :97 deg.

WAL shld be the WCON-07C...

i think the diff of lens and its mechanism between 5060 and 7070 will be minimal..

Yeah.. corresponds with my friend's and my testings. If so, then the C7070 will suffer the same fate as the C5060. However, with Ikelite housings becoming popular(TTL and Wide angle Attachments) it might be a good camera to consider. Though more expensive than the PT-series.

Sigh sharpness and details of the picture is still not as good as a prime lens...

 

[lovells19]

Yeah.. corresponds with my friend's and my testings. If so, then the C7070 will suffer the same fate as the C5060. However, with Ikelite housings becoming popular(TTL and Wide angle Attachments) it might be a good camera to consider. Though more expensive than the PT-series.

Sigh sharpness and details of the picture is still not as good as a prime lens...

ah yeah.. different range mah.. cannot compare cannot compare

 

[gernie]

read Konica Minolta DG-5W price at 80,000 yen :bigeyes: :mad2: :bsmilie:

Pentax OptioWP to be confirmed at PMA :think:

 

[siaoon]

hmmm if i'm not wrong.. both of this are waterproof camera.. but only up to 1.5 m depth...
sigh...

why cant they produce something that can do 40m depth at least???

 

[gernie]

1.5m enough for snokeling mah.... but at this price 80,000 yen....sigh siao la..
:bheart:

 

[lovells19]

1.5m enough for snokeling mah.... but at this price 80,000 yen....sigh siao la..
:bheart:

I snokel to 5m depth one leh hahah 80k yen not worth it 8k yen maybel

 

[kthan]

ok, prob the replacement for C-5050 has arrived in the mould of C-7070, but for those who like the former, there is one for sale in the buy/sell thread.....

C-5050 + PT-015 + Inon D180

Buy, buy, buy

 

[kthan]

bigfatfish selling it for $700, cam + housing.

not that great a price for strobe though.

 

[eric69]

As u ppl know.. C5050z already discontinued, and C5060z housing rumored to have problem.. C8080z too many failure points..

so.. wat do u ppl recommend if someone wanna to get a camera for UW photography??

someone says canon A70, S70..
some says fuji F810..

anyone got more to recommend?

i tried handling F810.. which so called to be the next C5050z in other diving forum..
Noted some points as follow:

Pros:
- very min. Shutter Lag
- Compact
- Fuji super CCD sensor

cons:
- Proprietary Battery only
- Short battery life ( asked the shop owner.. says last around 1 hr)
- support only xD card
- card and battery compartment are the same.

Personnally, i dun think this is ready to replace our trustworthy c5050z ( supports multiple cards, using AA batteries,etc)

guess we got to wait again... :|
dun really like olympus after sales..

hopefully fuji can come out a killer fast fast.. hoho.. ;p

I shared your sentiment on the C-5050Z. Myself, I'm waiting "impatient" for the C-7070. I think with the introduction of C-7070 into Singapore market (anytime soon now..), the infux of C-5050Z's into the 2nd-hand market will explore! I think C-7070 is well-placed to take over the reputed diving companion, C-5050Z.

 

[kthan]

I shared your sentiment on the C-5050Z. Myself, I'm waiting "impatient" for the C-7070. I think with the introduction of C-7070 into Singapore market (anytime soon now..), the infux of C-5050Z's into the 2nd-hand market will explore! I think C-7070 is well-placed to take over the reputed diving companion, C-5050Z.

other than pixel count, the only upgraded feature of the C-7070 which I like is VGA 640X480 @ 30 fps video mode.

The questi0n is whether it is worth paying $500-$800 more for this feature (considering $500-800 is the price diff btw a new 7070 + housing and the selling price of my 5050 + PT-015)

 

[siaoon]

hmm... u may wan to think it through....

from wat i gather last time..

- c7070 uses proprietary battery.. (so u cant reuse all your AA batts..)
- same lens mechanism as c5060.. (so u may face prob of using wide angle lens at its fullest. not sure though as we havnt seen the housing.. ;p)
(Note: for 5060, vignetting will occurs at its widest for both olympus and ikelite housing.. when using with a wide angle lens)
- not sure abt housing.. but u ppl may wan to take a gd gd look at it.. be sure that its doesnt repeat the "potential" problem faced by 5060...

heres the improvements for c7070
- 2 additional UW modes (more suitable for beginners.. think my mode can settle that)
- able to support fat32.. (so can use 2gig card and above.. not for me.. coz i cant afford such a big card..)
- 7.1 meg pixels( not a big deal to me..)
- video mode (SHQ (640x480 @ 30fps) recording is limited to 20 seconds, the length in HQ, SQ1 and SQ2 is limited only by available memory)


well.. as we discussed b4.. i dun think its ready to take over 5050...
hey eric.. in my personal opinion.. i think its better for u to keep yr whole setup wor...

*some personal thoughts from a 5060 user..

 

[kthan]

think I'll just go buy this toy and put it in a ewa marine bag

http://www.asia.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=218&subcategory=263&product=11175&nav=2

Video mode is 640X480
AAA rechargeables
6mp
built in flash
MP3 player
direct TV out
Singapore product!!!!