[ NEWS ] - official response from olympus

[clubgrit]

if this E-5 is set to SGD1000 on official release to for all the oly flagship, mid range and entry level.... why not! :bsmilie:

If they are thinking of setting it at SGD>2k then they are really loose in their nuts. How to compete siah with all the full frame already coming lower in prices.

With this announcement, in my interpretation, if they were blunt, they would say that E systems don't sell well, E-PL1 sales showed them the way to m4/3.

They may have their heart in E system, but the head says better earn money first for this camera division for future research and development of even better solutions.

My heart wants the E-5, but my head says no :think:.


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[microcosm]

With this announcement, in my interpretation, if they were blunt, they would say that E systems don't sell well, E-PL1 sales showed them the way to m4/3.

They may have their heart in E system, but the head says better earn money first for this camera division for future research and development of even better solutions.

My heart wants the E-5, but my head says no :think:.


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I think you are right. By cutting down the number of models available for the E-System it really helps cut losses and boost sales since there is now effectively the E5 and E620 to choose from (if the latter is not announced as end of line).

And I am sure with any company, bottom line is important and the PEN really showed the camera division the rainbow after the storm.

Maybe you should wait a little longer for the 2011 Pen. Since you are already shooting some really good pictures with your current one. Can hold out a little more, unless gear lust takes over common sense... like me.

 

[clubgrit]

I think you are right. By cutting down the number of models available for the E-System it really helps cut losses and boost sales since there is now effectively the E5 and E620 to choose from (if the latter is not announced as end of line).

And I am sure with any company, bottom line is important and the PEN really showed the camera division the rainbow after the storm.

Maybe you should wait a little longer for the 2011 Pen. Since you are already shooting some really good pictures with your current one. Can hold out a little more, unless gear lust takes over common sense... like me.

Oh, I have good respect for the Pen ... otherwise, dropped a long time ago ...


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[napalmdog]

theyve already lose thier nuts bro... coz I think this will cost around 2.4K SGD???

i LOL at lose their nuts. their voice probably very high now :bsmilie:

 

[jonathann]

Would you sell your entire E-system for a 7D and lens system? I don't think so right? Plus,its more than just a camera, you have to look at the entire system before deciding

oops i mean from a first time buyer point of view.

 

[spidey89]

oops i mean from a first time buyer point of view.

First time buyer point of view will also differ, based on different needs

 

[jonathann]

First time buyer point of view will also differ, based on different needs

from my point of view as a first time buyer then. as I mentioned. I would rather buy the 7d then the e5 if its priced at $2400. my opinion. not anybody's opinion but my opinion. 7d and not e5.

 

[kuanwk]

from my point of view as a first time buyer then. as I mentioned. I would rather buy the 7d then the e5 if its priced at $2400. my opinion. not anybody's opinion but my opinion. 7d and not e5.

1st time owner can and will buy 7d?
sigh, std of living gone up liao.. again..

altho honestly speaking, if i am a 1st time dslr buyer now, i wun consider e620..
dunno how to see in what way the zuiko glass is better, but can see that the other systems has better higher iso performance that i'll can do with..

back then, if i need to upgrade lens, i dun need to spend a bomb, and the dust cleaning and fold out lcd was the icing..
(i still dun and wun know how to clean sensor.. 8P )
competitors have all that now..

 

[nstclicks]

If I were a first-time buyer, I'd just go for m43 or Sony NEX. I suspect "full-sized" SLRs are headed the way of Medium Format. Question is whether the survivors will be the "full-frame" (which is already smaller than MF) or one of the cropped sensors. On numbers alone, more likely that APS than 4/3 will survive in 20 years time, but then with digital systems, both the software and hardware count, so hard to tell. In any case, 20 years is a long way away.

 

[albertri]

First time buyer point of view will also differ, based on different needs

For 1st time buyer will skip E5 entirely thats for sure. I thin it's very clear Oly is not anymore asking new comers to 4/3 camp but rather to m4/3. With E5 how can you attract those new comers to 4/3?

What Oly is doing with E5 just a delaying tactics or a wait and see... if m4/3 fails they go back to 4/3? but by the time all 4/3 fan base all long been gone. :thumbsd:

 

[Evilmerlin]

Why can't an m4/3 user jump to the 4/3? They have already made it quite clear that for users upgrading from PnS, they want them to go to m4/3 now. The E-5 was never aimed at a new user.

 

[elgkh]

Why can't an m4/3 user jump to the 4/3? They have already made it quite clear that for users upgrading from PnS, they want them to go to m4/3 now. The E-5 was never aimed at a new user.

They cannot use m4/3 lenses on 4/3 bodies. Which is why I think that once the pro m4/3 lenses and bodies come out, it will be the end of 4/3.

 

[Evilmerlin]

Doesn't mean that just because you can't use m4/3 lenses on 4/3 bodies thus you cannot own a 4/3 system right? 4/3 system still provides certain advantages like fast focusing and fast lenses that the m4/3 system doesn't have. God knows when Olympus or Panasonic will be able to push out an m4/3 body that can rival a DSLR and if you need one now, why not get it?

 

[elgkh]

I was thinking more of the (very far?) future, when there is no performance difference.

For those m4/3 users without any 4/3 lenses, 4/3 might as well be another system altogether. Kind of like Nikon DX users with DX lenses having to buy FX lenses when they upgrade to the D700/D3.

Right now though, 4/3 is still a viable upgrade path, given the lack of pro m4/3 lenses.

 

[nightpiper]

Doesn't mean that just because you can't use m4/3 lenses on 4/3 bodies thus you cannot own a 4/3 system right? 4/3 system still provides certain advantages like fast focusing and fast lenses that the m4/3 system doesn't have. God knows when Olympus or Panasonic will be able to push out an m4/3 body that can rival a DSLR and if you need one now, why not get it?

Also doesn't mean m43 owners won't switch to other brands if they want to uograde to DSLR right? Since m43 lenses cant use on 43, then the advantage of reusing old lenses investment goes down the drain. Either also buy new sys & new lenses, might as well look at all other brands right?

The GH2 is more or less rivaling a DSLR liao. I want one now (flying off tonite) but they dun release it till yr end. 1st to market has its advantage :sweatsm:

I was thinking more of the (very far?) future, when there is no performance difference.

For those m4/3 users without any 4/3 lenses, 4/3 might as well be another system altogether. Kind of like Nikon DX users with DX lenses having to buy FX lenses when they upgrade to the D700/D3.

Right now though, 4/3 is still a viable upgrade path, given the lack of pro m4/3 lenses.

Actually Nikon allow DX users to use their DX lenses on FF, the cam will auto crop the image size to match the smaller image circle. Sony also can. Only exception is Canon, that brand u need to buy the FF lenses all over again. :thumbsd:

 

[spidey89]

For 1st time buyer will skip E5 entirely thats for sure. I thin it's very clear Oly is not anymore asking new comers to 4/3 camp but rather to m4/3. With E5 how can you attract those new comers to 4/3?

What Oly is doing with E5 just a delaying tactics or a wait and see... if m4/3 fails they go back to 4/3? but by the time all 4/3 fan base all long been gone. :thumbsd:

In the first place,the E-5 was designed for enthusiasts as well as professionals, never aimed at newbies,regardless of what Olympus has recently said about their entry level DSLRs

 

[Evilmerlin]

Also doesn't mean m43 owners won't switch to other brands if they want to uograde to DSLR right? Since m43 lenses cant use on 43, then the advantage of reusing old lenses investment goes down the drain. Either also buy new sys & new lenses, might as well look at all other brands right?

The GH2 is more or less rivaling a DSLR liao. I want one now (flying off tonite) but they dun release it till yr end. 1st to market has its advantage :sweatsm:






Actually Nikon allow DX users to use their DX lenses on FF, the cam will auto crop the image size to match the smaller image circle. Sony also can. Only exception is Canon, that brand u need to buy the FF lenses all over again. :thumbsd:

Of course, nothing is stopping them but if they did get into a 4/3 system then they can be assured that any lens they buy would work with the m4/3 without having to worry about whether the lens has a manual aperture mode or not. I know it sucks that Olympus has shifted the 4/3 focus to advance amateurs/enthusiasts/professionals rather than covering the entire gamut of users but thems the breaks.

As to whether the GH2 is rivalling a DSLR, I wouldn't know until some reviews come out though it does look very promising.

Bottom line is that the E-5 isn't for everybody and Olympus has said so as much. If it doesn't suit you, don't buy.

 

[albertri]

i believe its the various guffaws and follow-up interviews are already quite clear in Oly's direction, 4/3s will only cater for advanced users (E5 and possibly E30 mid-level replacement). so no new primes and no entry level bodies for 4/3s.

m4/3s will be the focus in terms of product development for a while. m4/3 primes are on the way once the entry level zooms are all in the market.



if a camera produces unusable files, no one needs to think twice before dumping a system.

in any system, the lenses define what the system is capable of. if the camera is capable in the PASM modes, whatever new camera features / technologies are a bonus.

in my view, the greatest investment in a camera system is the time taken to actually take photographs that matters to us, photographs that means something to us. the time spent on the lenses and camera you have now is better than that switching and learning a new system again. if your fundamentals are already strong, it doesn't matter what camera you are using.

time spent on justifying our monetary investment on the internet or comparing spec sheets doesn't improve our photographs.

Thats the painful part Zuiko are one of the best I would say affordable comparing to other brands lenses. But thier Cam body still abit behind... AF speed still a bit behind. No doubt Olympus produces par better photos than of Sony but where's the consumer confidence when you hear something like that?

I have been playing with A33 for few days I must say its a fun camera to use and comparing it with my E620 it's a lot snappier... but I must admit thier glass is not a good as Zuiko... Even my wife can tell the difference How I wish I could mount my Zuiko to Sony I think it would be a blast sadly I can't... But my missus told me this "Sony is a nice camera also coz it has fast AF not like your Oly we are having stiff jaw smiling waiting for it to AF and shot our pictures" :bsmilie:

The problem rightnow is where do I go from here? go up E5 which will burn my pocket 2.4K or move down to m4/3???

 

[albertri]

Of course, nothing is stopping them but if they did get into a 4/3 system then they can be assured that any lens they buy would work with the m4/3 without having to worry about whether the lens has a manual aperture mode or not. I know it sucks that Olympus has shifted the 4/3 focus to advance amateurs/enthusiasts/professionals rather than covering the entire gamut of users but thems the breaks.

As to whether the GH2 is rivalling a DSLR, I wouldn't know until some reviews come out though it does look very promising.

Bottom line is that the E-5 isn't for everybody and Olympus has said so as much. If it doesn't suit you, don't buy.

I agree with you bro! E-5 is not for everyone I still like the form factor of E620...... if this series is no longer has future... a lot of these users will be forced to move camp I bet few would want to go up E5 or go m4/3.... also m4/3 lens are more expenssive than 4/3 lenses

 

[bousozoku]

Thats the painful part Zuiko are one of the best I would say affordable comparing to other brands lenses. But thier Cam body still abit behind... AF speed still a bit behind. No doubt Olympus produces par better photos than of Sony but where's the consumer confidence when you hear something like that?

I have been playing with A33 for few days I must say its a fun camera to use and comparing it with my E620 it's a lot snappier... but I must admit thier glass is not a good as Zuiko... Even my wife can tell the difference How I wish I could mount my Zuiko to Sony I think it would be a blast sadly I can't... But my missus told me this "Sony is a nice camera also coz it has fast AF not like your Oly we are having stiff jaw smiling waiting for it to AF and shot our pictures" :bsmilie:

The problem rightnow is where do I go from here? go up E5 which will burn my pocket 2.4K or move down to m4/3???

I get the feeling that the Olympus workers who are enthusiastic about photography operate their E-system cameras the way I do--like an OM-series camera. They don't use auto focus and only use up to ISO 400. They just like the E-system for the lack of film and dust. :bsmilie: