Newbies wonder wat is "stop", pls highlight...

[sino238]

Noted! I will keep on improve on it! Thanks guys here

Dear sino238,

Concept is correct, but f22 at night?????
Sheesh !!! try using only f5.6, or f8 max.. Otherwise, everything will be streaky !!
Unless of course, that's the effect you want.

Cheers

 

[coolthought]

CT bro, I read your explanation, not only TS confused but ME also confused :sweat:

opps.... this is what happen when I was multi tasking many things and didn't think through..... at least ts got with your explanation.

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

Meaning I no to need do those math mad calculation tat u teach me ar? Just let camera meter to do tat for me? Unless is a other filter like ND than I need to do those calculation? Can I say tat? Sorry for my stupid Q again...

Yes, more or less correct. A high-stop ND filter basically cuts out so much light that:
a) you can't see anything through the viewfinder.
b) same, the camera's meter also can't see anything

With CPL it's not so dark. It's designed not to confuse the camera's meter, so just trust the read-out and compensate only a bit if necessary.

I would not advise using apertures smaller than f/13 or f/16. You can end up negatively affecting your image quality.

 

[sino238]

No lar...Cos am stupid lar. U two are good guys willing to teach me this newbies. Realli feel thankful

opps.... this is what happen when I was multi tasking many things and didn't think through..... at least ts got with your explanation.

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

No lar...Cos am stupid lar. U two are good guys willing to teach me this newbies. Realli feel thankful

Everyone starts from zero

 

[sino238]

Wei wei u said u not advise to use f/13 or f/16 and below? Even snapping at nite? Or mainly day time and evening time? Don feel angry with me for asking and asking hor

Yes, more or less correct. A high-stop ND filter basically cuts out so much light that:
a) you can't see anything through the viewfinder.
b) same, the camera's meter also can't see anything

With CPL it's not so dark. It's designed not to confuse the camera's meter, so just trust the read-out and compensate only a bit if necessary.

I would not advise using apertures smaller than f/13 or f/16. You can end up negatively affecting your image quality.

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

Wei wei u said u not advise to use f/13 or f/16 and below? Even snapping at nite? Or mainly day time and evening time? Don feel angry with me for asking and asking hor

Read up about small aperture diffraction.

At f/22, aperture is really really small, pretty much like pin-hole cam
Curious why you think that f/22 is good for night scenes.

 

[hotwork77]

Wei wei u said u not advise to use f/13 or f/16 and below? Even snapping at nite? Or mainly day time and evening time? Don feel angry with me for asking and asking hor

Read up about small aperture diffraction.

At f/22, aperture is really really small, pretty much like pin-hole cam
Curious why you think that f/22 is good for night scenes.

Huh??? Bros...both of you still on computer ah? Instead of theory...go out and shoot lah. All the theory with no shooting cannot gain skill leh? I waiting by the kopitiam and already see so many young guys with lowepro and kata bags with tualengkong lens and camera so big that the table got no place for booze. Haha...

 

[michael chick]

@ hotwork77 FULLY AGREE WITH YOU !!!
hahahahaha

And they shoot what with those Linggha-Sized lenses?

 

[hotwork77]

@ hotwork77 FULLY AGREE WITH YOU !!!
hahahahaha

And they shoot what with those Linggha-Sized lenses?

:bsmilie: :bigeyes: :bsmilie:

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

Huh??? Bros...both of you still on computer ah? Instead of theory...go out and shoot lah. All the theory with no shooting cannot gain skill leh? I waiting by the kopitiam and already see so many young guys with lowepro and kata bags with tualengkong lens and camera so big that the table got no place for booze. Haha...

Yeah... TS, go out and experiment for yourself to see the results.

I learnt my basics from trial and error. Maybe my engineering background helped me to grasp it just that little bit quicker that's all.
I really believe that nothing beats experimentation and self-discovery

 

[sino238]

Story started one nite I go snapping, a Malay guy saw me shooting and shooting, he come over and told me to set F22. Than stopwatch urself lor...

Here is the picture. Pls comment

Read up about small aperture diffraction.

At f/22, aperture is really really small, pretty much like pin-hole cam
Curious why you think that f/22 is good for night scenes.

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

What mode you shoot at? Aperture priority? Manual exposure?

 

[michael chick]

NICE !!!! The image looks really really sharp from the foreground to infinity.
Howver, did you really wan that railing as part of the shot?
Trees/ leaves normally soften up the shot by quite a bit...

I shot the following at only f4, and yet, it looks equally sharp from the foreground till infinity. The Aperture controls the DOF, besides limiting the amount of light hitting the film/ CCD.

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Anyone else has pictures to share?

 

[sino238]

Manual mode, F22. ISO and white balance is 100(auto). Shutter speed =time. How u think?

What mode you shoot at? Aperture priority? Manual exposure?

 

[allenleonhart]

oh yea. zero, u might wanna let them know that there are also such stuff as 1/2 stop and 1/3 stops. which i find totally irritating hahaha

 

[sino238]

Still got one more. Also shoot at F22. I don know is it the rite way to take a nite scene. But am
Been doing tat all the while...

 

[Atarandas]

F22 as might not gI've you best iq results as mentioned due to diffraction.

To convince yourself go back to take the same night scene but using f16 or f11 and compare to see the difference

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

oh yea. zero, u might wanna let them know that there are also such stuff as 1/2 stop and 1/3 stops. which i find totally irritating hahaha

Baby steps!!

I find that I don't think mathematically with all this "how many stops?" thingy... I trust my camera's meter a lot :angel:

 

[sino238]

Okies! I will go back this weekend by using F16 or f11

F22 as might not gI've you best iq results as mentioned due to diffraction.

To convince yourself go back to take the same night scene but using f16 or f11 and compare to see the difference