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I think cheapest way to get the bokeh is to manage ur distance to ur subject and also the distance of back ground from ur subject. Esp if background are far.

Should be able to get decent bokeh with ur 25mm

Or buy a longer lens. :)
 

75mm at f1.8 does not work for you?
 

Of cos. I set it to Aperture priority. I set it to the smallest f number, in this case 1.4 (ie the biggest aperture)



Hahaha .. no lah. My expectation on bokeh is not high lah. The fact of the matter is I have no bokeh or shallow dof at all !

What I wish to reiterate is I cannot get the shallow dof or bokeh when I tried to shoot a subject (a human being) with a 3/4 body shot (ie from face to knee). If I stand near to the subject covering the face only, I can easily get the bokeh ...

So to get a shot covering from face to knee, I need to move further back and the lens distance to subject is no longer condusive for a shallow dof or bokeh ...


check this flickr from panaleica 25mm flickr group, it was shot at f1.6. Is the bokeh acceptable to you?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jainsama/10430631694/in/pool-1718910@N23/
 

check this flickr from panaleica 25mm flickr group, it was shot at f1.6. Is the bokeh acceptable to you?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jainsama/10430631694/in/pool-1718910@N23/

I would prefer a tad more bokeh.

But my problem is I cannot even get that.

That is because in this picture, I think because the lady is sitting down so the camera can go near the lady.

I wanted to take a pic of the human standing and be able to capture from head to knee ...

Thanks
 

Well, there are limits obviously with a smaller sensor.

m43 with 200mm/F5.0 and 300mm/F7.1:

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I think a longer lens is the answer. Thats why so called potrait lens are around 85mm and up such as the 135mm.. and they have fast apertures like 1.4 and 1.8.
Do you have the 40-150? That is a cheap and capable lens. Try shooting at 150mm @5.6.
 

I would prefer a tad more bokeh. But my problem is I cannot even get that. That is because in this picture, I think because the lady is sitting down so the camera can go near the lady. I wanted to take a pic of the human standing and be able to capture from head to knee ... Thanks

Think is your problem, not equipment problem.

Share with us some of your shots may help to look into your problem, rather guessing here.
 

Longer lens is always easier, plus of course brighter aperture and placement of subject with a background that's far away.

With Olympus 50-200 @ 200mm F3.5. In fact the background isn't that far.


With 75/1.8


With 75/1.8


With 75/1.8


Here's one with Voigtlander 25/0.95 as comparison, full body. Certainly tougher but if can find a background that's far, it's actually alright (for me)


It all depends on your expectations really, although you did mention you aren't really, if after seeing so many examples and still no ok, probably m43 is not for you
 

Of course he needs a longer lens. I thought that was already the consensus a few days ago.
 

Probably a picture of what he's asking would help (together with the settings and system/lens used) Rather than posting what we feel is acceptable.

Everyone's "bokelicious" is different.
 

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I think he is looking for something like the picture below (I borrowed from another website), which was taken with a Nikon 35mm F1.4 full frame at F1.8. Here, the subject is pretty close but yet the background is blurred. It's useful taking family pictures. The Voightlander 25mm 1.4 comes closest, but he doesn't seem to want that focal length.

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Not sure, I don't have this lens but very tempting to buy :)

Obviously the laptop is not far from the mouse and I was at least a meter away as that is the minimum focusing distance of the lens. Just used an E-P2 for this (so please pardon if the photo is a bit noisy) before I got poisoned by the E-P5 :D I know that everyone has different standards for bokeh but I just want to demonstrate how much can the 75mm blur the background. I was in a small room and I was pushing my back in a corner to try to make as much space as possible to include the laptop as well when taking the shot. The black blur to the left of the laptop is the back of an office chair. We all know what is the size of the mouse and laptop so I hope it can give you an idea on how far away you need to be from the subject when using the 75mm lens.


P9285444 by cain2143, on Flickr
 

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I think he is looking for something like the picture below (I borrowed from another website), which was taken with a Nikon 35mm F1.4 full frame at F1.8. Here, the subject is pretty close but yet the background is blurred. It's useful taking family pictures. The Voightlander 25mm 1.4 comes closest, but he doesn't seem to want that focal length.

110521_0029.jpg
Seriously? You don't need a Nikon 35mm F1.4 full frame at F1.8 for a shot like that.
 

Obviously the laptop is not far from the mouse and I was at least a meter away as that is the minimum focusing distance of the lens. Just used an E-P2 for this (so please pardon if the photo is a bit noisy) before I got poisoned by the E-P5 :D I know that everyone has different standards for bokeh but I just want to demonstrate how much can the 75mm blur the background. I was in a small room and I was pushing my back in a corner to try to make as much space as possible to include the laptop as well when taking the shot. The black blur to the left of the laptop is the back of an office chair. We all know what is the size of the mouse and laptop so I hope it can give you an idea on how far away you need to be from the subject when using the 75mm lens.


P9285444 by cain2143, on Flickr
He's talking about a standing person, not a tiny object.
 

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