Need Lens HELP!
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unseenshadows
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Hmm, so far the only times I use a flash with my camera are when I cover events for my school, and when there is poor lighting (eg, school hall, auditorium, etc etc). My advise is you don't really need a flash for general purpose photography. If you do need a fill flash, there's always the pop-up flash, though it may be rather harsh.
If your interest is still life, then maybe you might want a flash to even out the lighting. Try a second hand one at the BnS on clubsnap?
Halfmoon
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Getting a flash is good, but I will not recommend 2nd hand flash as you do not know how much abuses the flash have gone through..... just my thoughts...
Flash is a totally different ball game, but I enjoy learning it..... I say, go for it, EX 430 if you just want to try out.. or a EX580II if you can afford...
xunjas
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sure, y not.. there are situations that need flash and flash photography is another skill to learn n master as well. 430ex would be sufficient, not too expensive and gd enough unless u need the flash to have a longer range, then u need 580ex.
WHAT? You mean flash photography is another cattle of fish altogether? Looks like every equipment has a 'little' story and skill set to say..... damn.... back to the drawing board....
So the question is, shall I dive into this seeing that I'm not even wet!
unseenshadows
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Yeah flash photography is another set of skills to learn altogether. From the top of my head, must know when to bounce flash, when to direct flash, and knowing how to custom WB is a plus, I think.
Now I'm curious, when using flash, how to correctly determine the white balance?
Depends on location. You may want to set WB to "Flash" or to AWB to adjust later. Most of the time I use preset the temperature and use "K". Anyway, shooting in RAW helps, you can always change the WB after.
xunjas
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my method is start with AWB. if the color turn out correct, then i can stick with AWB. AWB can be quite accurate. Otherwise you have to determine the type of lighting and set the WB to match the type of lighting. for advanced slrs, user can set the color temp which is much more accurate.
The slr user manual also teaches about custom white balance. You should read up on that as well.
I know what WB is, just that I couldn't imagine setting it up for flash. I do some underwater video and after I learnt about WB, my video came out great....
I guess its the settings on the camera.... but I find it hard to visualize as the flash is a split second thing whilst shooting without flash is much 'easier'....
Ad yes, I have read the manual, not in depth as yet, but I will eventually get there... Thanks again...
I guess its the settings on the camera.... but I find it hard to visualize as the flash is a split second thing whilst shooting without flash is much 'easier'....
Ad yes, I have read the manual, not in depth as yet, but I will eventually get there... Thanks again...
xunjas
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u should dive since this is an essential part of photography, you cant possibly do photography under good lighting all the time.
read articles from http://www.photonotes.org. There is one article on flash photography.
xunjas
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I know what WB is, just that I couldn't imagine setting it up for flash. I do some underwater video and after I learnt about WB, my video came out great....
I guess its the settings on the camera.... but I find it hard to visualize as the flash is a split second thing whilst shooting without flash is much 'easier'....
Ad yes, I have read the manual, not in depth as yet, but I will eventually get there... Thanks again...
to use or not to use flash depends on situations. even during daylight conditions, i have to use flash to remove or reduce shadows from faces.. i had to read up and experience and ask n learn from fellow photographers..
unseenshadows
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Yeah not knowing how to use flash properly can often make your lighting even worse.
Some tips for flash photography indoors.
Generally, some indoor and outdoor lighting conditions have the following colour temperatures (measured in Kelvins, or K)
Tungsten (includes some ballroom lighting fixtures; test fire and check) - 3,200K
Stage lights (no colour gels on them) - 3,200K
Fluorescent (this is a hard one; there's no standardised temperature) - 4,400K to 5,200K
Daylight - 5,500K to 5,800K (dependent on how clear the sky is, and what time the day is)
Flash - 5,500K
Generally, some indoor and outdoor lighting conditions have the following colour temperatures (measured in Kelvins, or K)
Tungsten (includes some ballroom lighting fixtures; test fire and check) - 3,200K
Stage lights (no colour gels on them) - 3,200K
Fluorescent (this is a hard one; there's no standardised temperature) - 4,400K to 5,200K
Daylight - 5,500K to 5,800K (dependent on how clear the sky is, and what time the day is)
Flash - 5,500K
unseenshadows
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tungsten, fluorescent and daylight are all preset on my 400D, so i suppose 40D should be the same also. dunno how accurate these are though.
xunjas
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fluorescent is abit more difficult cos there a range of temperature for that type of lighting.. I would take raw and adjust with software to get it correct..
unseenshadows
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For me so far, AWB works fine.
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