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sinned79
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i think u are too obessive with HDR photos. Not all HDR photos turn out nice unless you do it correctly. Your last photo looks very much like camera shake photos. Too ambitious to do long exposure + HDR. For me it is either long exposure or just HDR, you can't simply combine them both (unless u are using one raw file done with long exposure to stimulate HDR). Look at the clouds, that is a result when mapping during HDR process cannot be done. Even your light house looks like double vision (probably the tripod in the water shake when the water moves).
while i talked too much, here's what i done previously. Shot a photo doing long exposure, using one single raw file to stimulate HDR effect then converted to b/w because the color version aren't as appealing as b/w version. Here's the end result. At least my photo dun have so much double vision problems due to multiple files having difficulty mapping into one.
i tried what u done currently, but it just dun work, multiple files of long exposure photos cannot be make into a single HDR photo. Cos you wun get the same exact arrangement of the various subjects in your photo in one place for each long exposure photo.
and my usual words to those who are obsessive about HDR. not all photos need to be HDR'ed. HDR photo doesn't means good photos unless u do a good job. And sometimes a non HDR photo looks nicer then a HDR photo.
while i talked too much, here's what i done previously. Shot a photo doing long exposure, using one single raw file to stimulate HDR effect then converted to b/w because the color version aren't as appealing as b/w version. Here's the end result. At least my photo dun have so much double vision problems due to multiple files having difficulty mapping into one.
i tried what u done currently, but it just dun work, multiple files of long exposure photos cannot be make into a single HDR photo. Cos you wun get the same exact arrangement of the various subjects in your photo in one place for each long exposure photo.
and my usual words to those who are obsessive about HDR. not all photos need to be HDR'ed. HDR photo doesn't means good photos unless u do a good job. And sometimes a non HDR photo looks nicer then a HDR photo.
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Thanks for the long long comment. Sorry if you are not an HDR fanatic. Im just enjoying my hobby & still learning this kind of processing
sinned79
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Thanks for the long long comment. Sorry if you are not an HDR fanatic. Im just enjoying my hobby & still learning this kind of processing
well if u think u are doing it right, continue to do so.
i am just sharing you what i have learnt before and based on my own experience, multiple long exposure photos cannot be merged into a single HDR photo, it just don't work simply. Just think of the floating boat logic, one moment it is swaying left, one moment swaying right and even especially in long exposure u cannot get the same photo with the boat in a single position, so do u can u get a 100% mapping correct? 100% mapping accuracy is a crucial factor to get your HDR photos right.btw, I am a fan of HDR but i am not an obsessive fan, I only do HDR only when i feel that the photo had the potential to. I don't do HDR for all my photos.
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SomeFormOFhuman
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Your HDR processing is good but watch your clouds, really. A good photographer knows that is not possible to see double visions in the sky. All my photos are HDR and here's a little trick, in one of your bracketing shots select a nice sky - smooth and neat (im pretty sure you used a ND Grad)Use the gradient tool in Photoshop and merge it from the top to manually fix the ghosting effect in the clouds. Other than that... enjoy!
sinned79
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not only skies, the sea, water etc as well. especially floating subjects.
u can also stimulate HDR photo using 1 single raw file, it can be done and much simpler to go via this method. Just click on the youtube tutorial in my previous post.
or alternatively, u can use the single raw file to produce another +1 and -1 jpg file on top of the original jpg file from this raw file. This will also help solves the ghosting problem.
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SomeFormOFhuman
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I appreciate your tutorial, but sorry man, I do not use single image HDRs to do my shots. People do multiple bracketing exposures to attain the highest or actual brightness (usually for foreground) and darkest realistic exposures for contrast areas... and achieve the highest, or lowest possible dynamic exposures for the final rendered image. This comes in handy when you're doing manual blending of HDRs in Photoshop before tone mapping it.
In fact, there are many ways to solve ghosting issues. Other than that, that's why most of my photos don't contain stationary moving objects like boats and etc. Unless whereby, in a situation the boat, for example, is not moving and winds are low, that's your chance to do bracketing exposure. (It's pretty much a "gut-feeling" kinda thing but anticipating wind direction and its rhythm is a must) A very mild movement can be solved by patching the selected areas of the boat with another image that best suits the final exposure of the final image. The only issue with multiple exposures (I deal with 11 exposures for most of my HDRs, eleven!! :bsmilie: ) is to make sure there is no single tripod movement or this whole shoot is a bust. It's a tedious task but still, well just my 2 cents point of experience. Still, thanks!!
In fact, there are many ways to solve ghosting issues. Other than that, that's why most of my photos don't contain stationary moving objects like boats and etc. Unless whereby, in a situation the boat, for example, is not moving and winds are low, that's your chance to do bracketing exposure.
(It's pretty much a "gut-feeling" kinda thing but anticipating wind direction and its rhythm is a must) A very mild movement can be solved by patching the selected areas of the boat with another image that best suits the final exposure of the final image. The only issue with multiple exposures (I deal with 11 exposures for most of my HDRs, eleven!! :bsmilie: ) is to make sure there is no single tripod movement or this whole shoot is a bust. It's a tedious task but still, well just my 2 cents point of experience. Still, thanks!!
sinned79
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I appreciate your tutorial, but sorry man, I do not use single image HDRs to do my shots. People do multiple bracketing exposures to attain the highest or actual brightness (usually for foreground) and darkest realistic exposures for contrast areas... and achieve the highest, or lowest possible dynamic exposures for the final rendered image. This comes in handy when you're doing manual blending of HDRs in Photoshop before tone mapping it.
In fact, there are many ways to solve ghosting issues. Other than that, that's why most of my photos don't contain stationary moving objects like boats and etc. Unless whereby, in a situation the boat, for example, is not moving and winds are low, that's your chance to do bracketing exposure.
the solution i gave is one of the many. but all solution is definitely better then what TS is doing now for sure.
bademiya21
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:thumbsup: Wonderful shot!
bademiya21
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This is in Singapore? If it is, it has never been discovered!!
Yes, taken @ Changi Boardwalk., near jetty going to Pulau Ubin.
Thanks for viewing ^__^
tend to agree withhttp://www.clubsnap.com/forums/members/95583-sinned79http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/members/95583-sinned79 bro, sinned79.
Up till now, I am still unable to appreciate HDR images. Most of them look so artificial and unreal. But if done "perfectly" then I guess they look "arty".
Up till now, I am still unable to appreciate HDR images. Most of them look so artificial and unreal. But if done "perfectly" then I guess they look "arty".
Keep it up, but do keep the over processing down
I like the Changi Boardwalk series except viewpoint#14, for the same reasons mentioned by sinned79.
I like the Changi Boardwalk series except viewpoint#14, for the same reasons mentioned by sinned79.
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