Mr John Ricard explain why M9 is good


artspraken

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It is mid 2011 and people are still raving about M9.

Actually,

. alot of what he says is applicable to Rangefinders in general, even film. Not really unique to M9.

. alot of what he says is good reason for market segment to move away from DSLRs.

To me, the M9 did not create a new market segment, but merely awakened a wider group of consumers to a market segment that has always been there in the first place.

Mr John Ricard's long talk about Leica M9 is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtj1o9oy4c&feature=player_embedded#at=88
 

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art,

thanks for the link. i think the person explains it very well. :)

raytoei
 

It's sad that almost all camera manufacturers focus so much on functions and bells and whistles... And Leica is the only one that goes the opposite direction and have found a niche for itself.

If Epson had continued with a full frame RD-2, I don't think Leica will have such rave today....
 

chiif said:
It's sad that almost all camera manufacturers focus so much on functions and bells and whistles... And Leica is the only one that goes the opposite direction and have found a niche for itself.

If Epson had continued with a full frame RD-2, I don't think Leica will have such rave today....

I'm please to see Epson coming out a full frame RF, Leica been monopoly the Digital RF market, is not healthy
 

But he didn't explain why Leica lenses are no good! He's using Carl Zeiss!:bsmilie::lovegrin::bsmilie::p:sweat:
 

I'm please to see Epson coming out a full frame RF, Leica been monopoly the Digital RF market, is not healthy

I think Chiif meant there won't be another Epson RF. I personally don't think they will either.
 

The Boss of my favourite 2nd hand camera store told me his Leica's sell because they are expensive. He even suggested that should I want to trade in something with him, better bring something expensive, like those EX EX ASPH lenses, not vintage LTM nikkor/canon nor V/C, very hard for him to sell. Hmmm...

I tested a ZM 35f2 Biogon. It's every bit as good as a summicron at half its price. But according to the Boss, v hard to sell. People simply don't believe that it is as good. Go figure.

I know it is about the M9 not the Zeiss lens but I guess the mentality is the same. "Good stuff can't be cheap".
 

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I think if the M9 costs less a lot of the complaints especially those about lack of features will stop.

But my question is, if the M9 is really so overpriced and yet still selling faster than can be manufactured, why isnt another manufacturer stepping in?

Could it be that the M9 is really not that cheap to manufacture? I think Zeiss did mention that at this point in time, they cant make a full frame digital rangefinder to compete with the M9 and still be cheaper and profitable.
 

I think if the M9 costs less a lot of the complaints especially those about lack of features will stop.

But my question is, if the M9 is really so overpriced and yet still selling faster than can be manufactured, why isnt another manufacturer stepping in?

Could it be that the M9 is really not that cheap to manufacture? I think Zeiss did mention that at this point in time, they cant make a full frame digital rangefinder to compete with the M9 and still be cheaper and profitable.
 

I think if the M9 costs less a lot of the complaints especially those about lack of features will stop.

But my question is, if the M9 is really so overpriced and yet still selling faster than can be manufactured, why isnt another manufacturer stepping in?

Could it be that the M9 is really not that cheap to manufacture? I think Zeiss did mention that at this point in time, they cant make a full frame digital rangefinder to compete with the M9 and still be cheaper and profitable.
 

I think if the M9 costs less a lot of the complaints especially those about lack of features will stop.

But my question is, if the M9 is really so overpriced and yet still selling faster than can be manufactured, why isnt another manufacturer stepping in?

Could it be that the M9 is really not that cheap to manufacture? I think Zeiss did mention that at this point in time, they cant make a full frame digital rangefinder to compete with the M9 and still be cheaper and profitable
 

I think if the M9 costs less a lot of the complaints especially those about lack of features will stop.

But my question is, if the M9 is really so overpriced and yet still selling faster than can be manufactured, why isnt another manufacturer stepping in?

Could it be that the M9 is really not that cheap to manufacture? I think Zeiss did mention that at this point in time, they cant make a full frame digital rangefinder to compete with the M9 and still be cheaper and profitable
 

The Boss of my favourite 2nd hand camera store told me his Leica's sell because they are expensive. He even suggested that should I want to trade in something with him, better bring something expensive, like those EX EX ASPH lenses, not vintage LTM nikkor/canon nor V/C, very hard for him to sell. Hmmm...

I tested a ZM 35f2 Biogon. It's every bit as good as a summicron at half its price. But according to the Boss, v hard to sell. People simply don't believe that it is as good. Go figure.

I know it is about the M9 not the Zeiss lens but I guess the mentality is the same. "Good stuff can't be cheap".


Sad fact really.

There are many good lenses available on the market out than Leica but most see no point in getting them
 

im currently very happy with wat i can afford
although i still wan tat sumilux....
 

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