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Duhville,
When you feel like your work has been stolen, you are right. What's more, copyright misappropriation is not only wrong, it is ILLEGAL !!! :nono: So you are right pressing on.
Now, it might be you will be just ignored by them. Why? Your letter was too informal and too nice. So they will hope that if they pretend you don't exist, at the end you will just buzz off . Please, prove them wrong.
If you have a friend who is a lawyer, maybe he could write another letter to the editor, this time a true nasty-gram in convoluted legalese? :devil: That, for sure will not be ignored by the editor like the letter you wrote. :angry:
When you feel like your work has been stolen, you are right. What's more, copyright misappropriation is not only wrong, it is ILLEGAL !!! :nono: So you are right pressing on.
Now, it might be you will be just ignored by them. Why? Your letter was too informal and too nice. So they will hope that if they pretend you don't exist, at the end you will just buzz off . Please, prove them wrong.
If you have a friend who is a lawyer, maybe he could write another letter to the editor, this time a true nasty-gram in convoluted legalese? :devil: That, for sure will not be ignored by the editor like the letter you wrote. :angry:
Zaren, not all. A lot of people buy dubbed CDs/VCDs/softwares with pride.zaren said:if your letter is ignored, write to the recipient's immediate superior and keep on doing so until you get a reply. by the time it reaches the minister, you can betcha you'll get a reply.
after all, singapore prides itself and its citizens on the virtues of honesty and integrity.
Yea, let's see you say the same when you write a software and some bengs freeloaded(read pirated) it for their personal use without informing you or paying you for your hardwork.CoExist said:
Sounds like stealing photos for own use to me. How many of you here haven't watched a pirated VCD in your entire life ? It's a copyright infringement left right centre however you cook it. But that's ok I guess to some.
snowspeeder
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If you have not received a response from them after 2 weeks or so. Write another letter to this editor with the 1st letter attached. But this time, "cc" the letter to MITA or your lawyer friend. Clearly indicate your intention to take further action if the matter is not resolved soonest.
And as mentioned numerous times in this thread before, this is not just about a single picture. It is about the principle and the values we excercise (and not just cheap talk) in today's society. It is clearly a struggle between doing what's right and letting the wrong do its will. There is no neutrality or middle ground to this.
And perhaps this notion is so eloquently expressed by Edmund Burke who wrote: "The Only Thing Necessary For Evil To Flourish Is For Good Men To Do Nothing."
And as mentioned numerous times in this thread before, this is not just about a single picture. It is about the principle and the values we excercise (and not just cheap talk) in today's society. It is clearly a struggle between doing what's right and letting the wrong do its will. There is no neutrality or middle ground to this.
And perhaps this notion is so eloquently expressed by Edmund Burke who wrote: "The Only Thing Necessary For Evil To Flourish Is For Good Men To Do Nothing."
I can relate to the post...
My photos at pbase was copied and published in the frontpage of a section of The Star. I was their stringer at time. I sent out an email to friends, including a few reporters at The Star, inviting them to visit the latest gallery.
A week later the pictures appeared in paper. Nobody has called me or asked for my permission to publish those pictures. I had not submitted the pictures to the editor. Someone in the office has copied my pictures at pbase and submitted them together with the article--with no acknowledgement to my authorship.
I know they were copied because it was the only place those pix were available. I was shocked and angry.
I called up the reporters at The Star and confronted them. They admitted to copying my pictures without my permission. They apologized.
Two days later, I called up the regional editor, told him what had happened and demanded for a compensation. The ed reacted angrily to me. "You are asking for a compensation??? I don't want to hear from you again. I will check with my reporters and decide what to do next."
I forwarded my demands in writing three months ago. There is no news from The Star since then. I face the dilemma of whether to keep on fighting this or just forget about it. But it is upseting when such big publications pay no courtesy or hold no integrity. I won't say everyone in the org is as such but it shows a lot of apathy towards copyrights and distain towards a photographer.
After all, it is only a photograph. How hard can it be to take one.
My photos at pbase was copied and published in the frontpage of a section of The Star. I was their stringer at time. I sent out an email to friends, including a few reporters at The Star, inviting them to visit the latest gallery.
A week later the pictures appeared in paper. Nobody has called me or asked for my permission to publish those pictures. I had not submitted the pictures to the editor. Someone in the office has copied my pictures at pbase and submitted them together with the article--with no acknowledgement to my authorship.
I know they were copied because it was the only place those pix were available. I was shocked and angry.
I called up the reporters at The Star and confronted them. They admitted to copying my pictures without my permission. They apologized.
Two days later, I called up the regional editor, told him what had happened and demanded for a compensation. The ed reacted angrily to me. "You are asking for a compensation??? I don't want to hear from you again. I will check with my reporters and decide what to do next."
I forwarded my demands in writing three months ago. There is no news from The Star since then. I face the dilemma of whether to keep on fighting this or just forget about it. But it is upseting when such big publications pay no courtesy or hold no integrity. I won't say everyone in the org is as such but it shows a lot of apathy towards copyrights and distain towards a photographer.
After all, it is only a photograph. How hard can it be to take one.
snowspeeder
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louispang said:
A friend of mine who is a freelance photographer told me that when a newspaper wishes to use a certain photo taken by a freelancer/amatuer, the rate for each of the image is about S$80 or so. Can someone confirm on this?
acroamatic
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The establishment/authorities/whatever you want to call them try to clamp down on pirated goods. It's relatively easy for the powers-that-be to impose their will on pirates. It's not so easy for an individual citizen to assert his copyright. THAT, to me is absurd.Minoxman said:
Yah, no doubt many people on the forum have used pirated software or purchased pirated VCDs/DVDs. Still, Microsoft et. al. and TimeWarner/Sony/Disney et. al. make BILLIONS despite "rampant" pirating.
This issue is not merely about copyright infringement. It's is about the power certain groups to exercise their rights over others. In this case, an individual.
Microsoft, under the umbrella of the Business Software Alliance, has every right to (and does) go after pirated software manufacturers together with local authorities. The RIAA, on behalf on the powerful media conglomerates, has every right to (and does) go after mp3 users. The Singapore Police Force has made it all but impossible to purchase pirated VCDs/DVDs here. Duhville, even though he does not belong to some mega-rich corporation, has EVERY RIGHT to pursue this matter. In fact, I would say that it's even more important for him to do so.
Following your logic, if a robber's house gets robbed, the robber does not have recourse to justice. And other robbers who witnessed this robbery should shut up. But I guess that's okay to some.
The bottom line is that the Berita Harian reporter and/or his editor have no journalistic integrity. Whether CSers have ever infringed copyright in their lives is not relevant to the fact that duhville's copyright has been infringed.
Belle&Sebastain
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Minoxman said:
my is the real McCoy here.
StreetShooter
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Minoxman said:
Don't assume.
acroamatic said:
So it's ok to for people here to infringe copyright issues, but not ok when the BH guy did the same. How cool.
If Duhville is still keen, just engage a lawyer to fight the case.
It's just that the irony is so thick here it's choking.
(pot calling kettle black etc)
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