March 2009 SONY new bodies, new lens

[eow]

just like a car, get a face lift with some tweaks here and there

ya nothing revolutionary, existing owners shouldn't had anything to worry abt.. mabbe it time to concentrate on improving photography,buying better lenses and better accessories like replacing lousy filters with good one... so that no more complaint on cameras and lenses being soft and oof

 

[Rashkae]

ya nothing revolutionary, existing owners shouldn't had anything to worry abt.. mabbe it time to concentrate on improving photography,buying better lenses and better accessories like replacing lousy filters with good one... so that no more complaint on cameras and lenses being soft and oof

Well, let's see. They may have made tweaks to the AA filter, etc.

 

[Ouverture]

They won't mention anything until the NDA is lifted May 18th.

Yah, most publication website have probably "completed" their hands-on preview on these new models and just waiting for 18th May to officially post them on their websites.

 

[pipo999]

Interesting to know whether a new A380 can be on the par with an old A700.

 

[yokechye]

Interesting to know whether a new A380 can be on the par with an old A700.

of course it is not... its a300 series and it looks like its only a facelift with not much significant improvement

 

[kingfishers]

hi, very recently I just tried the the CZ 16-35mm,It seem that at the far left of the picture is very soft,dono whether is it my shooting skill or the opening of 35mm maximum causes this problems. The filter is B+W CPL.:think:

 

[pipo999]

of course it is not... its a300 series and it looks like its only a facelift with not much significant improvement

And this is based on what information? Two years between technology and no final release information yet. Let's see what Sony has in the bag. Apart from that, if I show you a few random shots of both the 350 and 700 you would not be able to tell the difference.

 

[eow]

hi, very recently I just tried the the CZ 16-35mm,It seem that at the far left of the picture is very soft,dono whether is it my shooting skill or the opening of 35mm maximum causes this problems. The filter is B+W CPL.:think:

so the center is alrite?
try off the micro-adjustment if it on

 

[kingfishers]

thank for yours advise, will look into it.

 

[jammerwong]

of course it is not... its a300 series and it looks like its only a facelift with not much significant improvement

It seems like the write up in the DL article confirms this: "Colours are punchy but past ISO800, details become smudged" , while the comments on the canicon cameras are " At ISO3200, the .....preserves better than some are tested here at ISO800", "Like the shots at ISO 3200 still maintain good details" ..... It is quite confirmed that Sony upgrades are only aesthetic..... I am not sure if a person looking to upgrade from PNS camera can accept this shortcoming.....

 

[Rashkae]

It seems like the write up in the DL article confirms this: "Colours are punchy but past ISO800, details become smudged" , while the comments on the canicon cameras are " At ISO3200, the .....preserves better than some are tested here at ISO800", "Like the shots at ISO 3200 still maintain good details" ..... It is quite confirmed that Sony upgrades are only aesthetic..... I am not sure if a person looking to upgrade from PNS camera can accept this shortcoming.....

1. Many review sites are biased. Even when their own data says otherwise.
2. 90% of the time, a person looking to upgrade from a PnS has no clue whatsoever what they want, what ISO is, etc, so long as a picture looks good on facebook and they look "more pro".

Do not look at entry-level cameras catering to the mass market with the eyes of someone who understands about ISO noise, detail smearing, JPEG compression, etc.

 

[jammerwong]

I am an example of a noobie who has upgraded from a C camp Point and Shoot to Alpha 300. I was bought over by the live view capability of the camera. I discovered that the shortcoming of the Alpha from day 1 especially when I need to take a photo indoor without flash. I tried taking similar photos on my friend's 500D and D60, and I immediately noticed the advantage of these 2 models. Less grainy indoor picture. Although the colour of Alpha is much livelier. I guess a person should expect this capability even from an entry level DSLR. Otherwise , he may be better off buying a SLR like camera, cheaper and smaller and easier to use...... I am unsure if Sony can maintain the Liveview advantage from the rest for long, before the big boys catch up and the story of Minolta repeat once more.....

Just my 2 cents worth.....

 

[Rashkae]

I am an example of a noobie who has upgraded from a C camp Point and Shoot to Alpha 300. I was bought over by the live view capability of the camera. I discovered that the shortcoming of the Alpha from day 1 especially when I need to take a photo indoor without flash. I tried taking similar photos on my friend's 500D and D60, and I immediately noticed the advantage of these 2 models. Less grainy indoor picture. Although the colour of Alpha is much livelier. I guess a person should expect this capability even from an entry level DSLR. Otherwise , he may be better off buying a SLR like camera, cheaper and smaller and easier to use...... I am unsure if Sony can maintain the Liveview advantage from the rest for long, before the big boys catch up and the story of Minolta repeat once more.....

Just my 2 cents worth.....

If shooting in JPEG, then there's a good chance the noise you're seeing actually comes from DRO. After all, Nikon uses Sony sensors.

So try shooting with and without DRO. Once DRO is switched off, you should see cleaner, but less "punchy" images.

 

[Galdor]

I am an example of a noobie who has upgraded from a C camp Point and Shoot to Alpha 300. I was bought over by the live view capability of the camera. I discovered that the shortcoming of the Alpha from day 1 especially when I need to take a photo indoor without flash. I tried taking similar photos on my friend's 500D and D60, and I immediately noticed the advantage of these 2 models. Less grainy indoor picture. Although the colour of Alpha is much livelier. I guess a person should expect this capability even from an entry level DSLR. Otherwise , he may be better off buying a SLR like camera, cheaper and smaller and easier to use...... I am unsure if Sony can maintain the Liveview advantage from the rest for long, before the big boys catch up and the story of Minolta repeat once more.....

Just my 2 cents worth.....

Did you view the pictures from the computer monitor or via prints? Did you noticed any details loss from the 500D & D60? I don't think the A300 is that bad.

 

[navlem]

A300 can't be as bad as you said, I owned that before and I find it better than my friend's 450D in terms of noise.

 

[lenrek]

Picture taken with a350 @ iso800



Noisy? Personally, I am quite happy with the result.

 

[Galdor]

Looks clean enough for me. :thumbsup:

 

[teodesson]

noise at ISO 3200, but still acceptable for me (from 1870 kit lens some more)

 

[Galdor]

noise at ISO 3200, but still acceptable for me (from 1870 kit lens some more)

ISO3200? :bigeyes:
:thumbsup:

 

[navlem]

ISO3200? :bigeyes:
:thumbsup:

OK wat, my previous A300 de ISO3200 also somewhat liddat, but slightly better. Nothing special.