LX2 Rocks???

[lsisaxon]

if thats the case there is no worry like what lsisaxon said... from all these pic the "watercolor" effect only really appear at high ISO

my conclusion - Panasonic have chuck out another mini beast

Maybe I'll find some time to do a test for different ISO to see when the water colour effect kicks in. Then again, like how some people can accept high ISO film grain as art, there is no reason why we cannot accept the water colour effect as art too. It's all in the mindset.

 

[zapp!]

yup making me super gian already.......i am looking for a nice P&S for a long time. Sometimes carry DSLR to wedding dinner is >.> everyone look at u. Some more, how to carry the big bag when wearing dinner suit etc...

 

[zapp!]

Maybe I'll find some time to do a test for different ISO to see when the water colour effect kicks in. Then again, like how some people can accept high ISO film grain as art, there is no reason why we cannot accept the water colour effect as art too. It's all in the mindset.

I am thinking some pple might get problems when they lose facial details at high ISOs, u know like those close up family shots, baby shots etc.

 

[lsisaxon]

I am thinking some pple might get problems when they lose facial details at high ISOs, u know like those close up family shots, baby shots etc.

If you're talking about close ups, then you won't have a problem at all. The watercolour effect is evident only when you blow the images to 1:1 on the monitor, so, maybe the eyelashes, the nose hair, pimples and pores will appear water-coloured but I don't think it will show up that well on 4R prints. Compare the images in #47. The watercolour is not evident in the resized image, just that it doesn't look that sharp.

 

[ExplorerZ]

I am thinking some pple might get problems when they lose facial details at high ISOs, u know like those close up family shots, baby shots etc.

should be still alright for print like 5r :bsmilie: but if talking about big print, i think dSLR is the way to go for those high ISO, big print shots. if the photographer is too minded about those find detail, then he/she should be good enough to know the limitation of all PnS.

 

[ExplorerZ]

Maybe I'll find some time to do a test for different ISO to see when the water colour effect kicks in. Then again, like how some people can accept high ISO film grain as art, there is no reason why we cannot accept the water colour effect as art too. It's all in the mindset.

maybe a small demo of zoomed in image let say 33%, 50%, 75% and 100% against diff ISO would be good. helps people to understand how big they have to roughly print in order to actually see the watercolor effect @ different ISO level.

 

[lsisaxon]

should be still alright for print like 5r :bsmilie: but if talking about big print, i think dSLR is the way to go for those high ISO, big print shots. if the photographer is too minded about those find detail, then he/she should be good enough to know the limitation of all PnS.

Like I posted in another thread in the Nikon subforum, if people can accept grains in high ISO film, I don't see why people should have a problem with high ISO noise/artifacts in digital cameras.

 

[ExplorerZ]

Like I posted in another thread in the Nikon subforum, if people can accept grains in high ISO film, I don't see why people should have a problem with high ISO noise/artifacts in digital cameras.

cos when it comes to digital, people will start all the pixel peeping. so far from all the pic you posted in the previous page, i find it very usable even for A4 prints and A3 print (for lower ISO shots) and maybe even bigger but i don print bigger than A4 normally, so no comment.. :lovegrin:

 

[zapp!]

how do u print your 16:9 shots? I think normal labs dun have 16:9 paper rite?

 

[ExplorerZ]

how do u print your 16:9 shots? I think normal labs dun have 16:9 paper rite?

gotta crop... what i mean is the image is very usable even for print up to A3 or even higher

 

[weekh]

LX1 / LX2 are both very good cams. They are among the best, if not the best, digicams available currently. No need to speed so much time comparing and worrying which is better.

 

[weekh]

I shoot RAW and nothing else.

But I screwed up and shot the following images in JPG. And despite it is the low resolution JPG, the file is very good! Straight out from the cam without any adjustment other than resizing and a little sharpening:

 

[lsisaxon]

how do u print your 16:9 shots? I think normal labs dun have 16:9 paper rite?

Doesn't matter. Just tell them you want Fit-In. Then they will fit the longest part of the image in and you'll get white borders at the top and bottom. Same as when you print 4:3 on 4R, you'll get white border on the sides.

 

[weekh]

Judge for yourself:

 

[Wolfgang]

Judge for yourself:

Erm.. the images are not showing... :embrass:

 

[lsisaxon]

Erm.. the images are not showing... :embrass:

Try refreshing? They show on mine.

 

[Newbiez]

I can see the images too.

btw.. curse you CS i'm now so tempted to get LX1 or LX2.

 

[Wolfgang]

Try refreshing? They show on mine.

Ooops.... Now they are.

I should be heading down to get the black version tomorrow... :heart: :lovegrin:

A big thank you to both Weekh & lsisaxon for answering alot of my questions.

 

[Wolfgang]

I can see the images too.

btw.. curse you CS i'm now so tempted to get LX1 or LX2.

Don't curse us. Love us. :lovegrin:

 

[lsisaxon]

I can see the images too.

btw.. curse you CS i'm now so tempted to get LX1 or LX2.

Don't get LX1, it's too noisy.. get LX2. :thumbsup: