LX1 Rocks!!!

[toledosun]

Hi,

I'm shopping for a digital camera and saw the Z5 today. On my short list are the Fuji Z11 and the Canon S2 IS but I was very impressed by the telephoto capabilities of the Z5. I took a shot with the Z5 and another with the S2 IS at 12x. From the LCD screen the Z5's pic appears much sharper.

From what I've read so far, the F11's best quality is "low noise". How visible are these noise that we are talking about? The LX1 is supposed to have lots of noise but I don't see it on the pics in this thread. Is the noise only visible above a certain size (say 8R)? If so, then it won't be an issue for me because my pics are likely to be printed only inn 4R size. However, if the noise is something which is visible for outdoor overcast shots, then I'm likely to give it a pass.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[unseen]

how visible => depends on how much of the photo do you like to see at a time on your screen. if around 10% is enough, then the noise is very visible. Else, it's pretty much invisible. I've printed a FZ5 ISO400 photo @ 8R before, can hardly tell the noise (overcast weather full zoom). I doubt you can tell the noise from a 4R print.

I expect the same for LX1. The noise is only there if you like to zoom in at 100%. as long as you view it like a normal human, you'll not see much noise. like in this thread, you won't have the chance to zoom in do you?

As for sharpness, FZ5 VS S2 VS S1 VS minolta's Z5, FZ5 is the sharpest, and by a huge margin. I've deleted the photos, so you'll have to take my words for it.

 

[toledosun]

Thanks Unseen,

I was very impressed by the sharpness of the image on the Z5's LCD. Just so that I know what to expect... what happens if I were to take a night scene of say, Chinatown, at ISO400 and develop it in 4R (like what Weekh did) . Would it end up looking as sharp as that at 4R, or would that effect only be achievable at lower IS0 and slower shutter speed?

At the end of the day, which works better for night shots, a camera with high usable ISO like the FujiF11 or a camera like the Z5, with the OIS?

 

[weekh]

Hi,
The LX1 is supposed to have lots of noise but I don't see it on the pics in this thread. Is the noise only visible above a certain size (say 8R)? If so, then it won't be an issue for me because my pics are likely to be printed only inn 4R size. However, if the noise is something which is visible for outdoor overcast shots, then I'm likely to give it a pass.
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Once u resize the image to lower resolution, the noise will not be apparent.
Noise is only visible in shadow area... overcast shots have no effect in noise.

 

[metallilan]

Thanks Unseen,

I was very impressed by the sharpness of the image on the Z5's LCD. Just so that I know what to expect... what happens if I were to take a night scene of say, Chinatown, at ISO400 and develop it in 4R (like what Weekh did) . Would it end up looking as sharp as that at 4R, or would that effect only be achievable at lower IS0 and slower shutter speed?

At the end of the day, which works better for night shots, a camera with high usable ISO like the FujiF11 or a camera like the Z5, with the OIS?

the F11 is a well suited cam for night, since it has a good sensor which has low noise at high ISO's.

Frankly speaking, it depends on what you wish to take.

FZ5 is good because of the telephoto, high speed AF, but then when it comes to night shot...:sweatsm: okay okay ar, still need tripod ;p

F11 is good for night, but you don't need IS that much since it isn't a telephoto camera, and you can use the high iso.

so its up to ya buddy!

 

[pictograph]

I should show this list to Panasonic and ask them to pay me a commission.

You should totally get a commision Weekh, i'm also tempted to get LX1 now.. nice body too..;p

 

[Martin]

Thanks Unseen,

I was very impressed by the sharpness of the image on the Z5's LCD. Just so that I know what to expect... what happens if I were to take a night scene of say, Chinatown, at ISO400 and develop it in 4R (like what Weekh did) . Would it end up looking as sharp as that at 4R, or would that effect only be achievable at lower IS0 and slower shutter speed?

At the end of the day, which works better for night shots, a camera with high usable ISO like the FujiF11 or a camera like the Z5, with the OIS?

My taiwan photos in iso400, even in a daylight shot, all without flash, P mode, with the help OIS. (seems like my pics are small, but u can email me to get a big one)

Hope you hv a chance to compare wif F11 in ISO1600, eg shots in chinatown.

http://sg.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/martinclubsnap/my_photos

 

[toledosun]

Thanks to all who have given advice. Took the plunge and bought the F11 from Parisilk for S$515 (include 512 mb memory card, case andmini tripod). Decided on the F11 based simply on the fact that, at that price, it is the only compact camera that has all the "must have" features like long battery life, high usable ISO.

 

[BigBird]

I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Heard much good reviews on the F11, with their current Super CCD technology being one of the strong points for Fuji cams.

I myself am looking at the LX-1.. all thanks to weekh :sweatsm:

 

[xllms]

Get a portable backup harddisk lor.... more economical than getting extra SD cards.
The last time I went Bangkok, I rented one for about $30 for a week.

hey weekh, u mean u can connect the LX1 to the portable hdd n transfer the pix into the hdd directly?...do enlighten me

xllms

 

[BigBird]

Technically yes.. I believe what is meant here is a HDD based, portable storage device like the one shown here

This particular model is quite popular among CS members, and I believe they are up for rent over at the Consumer's Corner page.

 

[acroamatic]

A couple of photos to share.

From National Stadium


From Kallang River

 

[unseen]

Really makes me wonder.. does LX1 make your skill better or what? or are your photo taking skills just good?

From Kallang River => Not say spectular, but the photo just feels good... I like..

 

[wrx_sti_22b]

the F11 is a well suited cam for night, since it has a good sensor which has low noise at high ISO's.

Frankly speaking, it depends on what you wish to take.

FZ5 is good because of the telephoto, high speed AF, but then when it comes to night shot...:sweatsm: okay okay ar, still need tripod ;p

F11 is good for night, but you don't need IS that much since it isn't a telephoto camera, and you can use the high iso.

so its up to ya buddy!

I wonder wat abt TZ1... anybody here in this forum owns a TZ1? Not selling in shops yet but over the net already selling... maybe someone has bought?...

 

[acroamatic]

I shall be buay pai seh and say that my skills are... well, at least above average.

Seriously though, through the many threads in these forum, I think most people conclude that it's the person behind the camera, not the camera itself. This advice always comes up esp when newbies wonder whether to buy Brand X or Brand Y.

But... what the LX1 forces people to do is to think more about their shots. I think it forces people to be a bit more creative. Why? The 16:9 perspective is quite different from 3:2 and 4:3.

While the 16:9 perspective lends itself naturally to landscape shots, the real challenge is shooting people. And from this thread, esp with weekh's shots, you can see that creativity coming through. I've yet to experiment with my LX1 on people/portraits.

Really makes me wonder.. does LX1 make your skill better or what? or are your photo taking skills just good?

From Kallang River => Not say spectular, but the photo just feels good... I like..

 

[weekh]

Really makes me wonder.. does LX1 make your skill better or what? or are your photo taking skills just good?

I think it is the cam...
here's a clich shot and imo, the 16:9 format works better than the normal format.

 

[azul123]

I think it is the cam...
here's a clich shot and imo, the 16:9 format works better than the normal format.

I doubt the camera has auto compose, it is the preson behind the view finder, but indeed 16:9 format is such nicer to have for landscapes especially.

Want to ask a question for those with the LX1, is it more useful to have higher ISO (FX01) or better to have RAW files (LX1)

Thinking of getting before June.

../azul123

 

[litefoot]

I think it is the cam...
here's a clich shot and imo, the 16:9 format works better than the normal format.

Yah right. I will buy 10 LX1 and shoot 10 times better than you.

 

[acroamatic]

I think it is the cam...
here's a clich shot and imo, the 16:9 format works better than the normal format.

Weekh, you really do yourself and your shots injustice by claiming that it's the cam. The camera is a mere tool. Perhaps for the 16:9 format works better for you. That may not be true of other photographers.

Want to ask a question for those with the LX1, is it more useful to have higher ISO (FX01) or better to have RAW files (LX1)

Which is more useful to you?

 

[azul123]

Which is more useful to you?

I don't own an LX1... yet. Planning to get a P&S before June. I believe the FX01 was not released when the LX1 was announced.

That is why I asked the questions to LX1 owner, after using for a while would you wished having higher ISO capability without RAW files? or would you still preferred shooting at lower ISO and keep the RAW capabilities because it is more useful?

../azul123