Looking to engage photography students for my upcoming wedding
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haha sorry one more post to gktat1, everyone treasures their wedding, that is the reason no one wants to engage non-professional, but I am given that chance by a good friend, she trusted me even I got noooooo experience at all and she knows I like to take photos, so I am grateful and want to give others a chance too.
Again want to mention, for someone who really wants to prove his talents, he will work doubly hard than the professionals, by this, how can one not produce something of worth?
Also, I am not looking for free service, it is not to be seen as a service but rather as an experience.
Again want to mention, for someone who really wants to prove his talents, he will work doubly hard than the professionals, by this, how can one not produce something of worth?
Also, I am not looking for free service, it is not to be seen as a service but rather as an experience.
yes, that's other people wedding, not up to me or others to say anything.
looking for free/cheap photographer, don't want to spend money on weddings... that's fine, for me, I'm cool with that, but for others, I'm not sure.
I'm not happy with his comment on his first post about professional photographers, as if he has hired all the professional photographers before.
I'm having my wedding end of next yr...
I'm keeping a lookout fer photographers even at this point of time.
I dun mind going on purpose to 'bump into gd photographers'
To mi, capturing the essence of my wedding is a commitment to my wedding itself.
And yes, i'm a freelance wedding photographer myself.
Followed a few professionals, from my POV...
They r reallie gd.
They constantly upgrade their photography skills by books, by practice...
So when u made ur statement, i feel sorry fer them.
Maybe u want leave mi ur contact,
i try to arrange a meet up fer u to view their portfolios...
to change ur views on these so called commercial photographers...
Thanks
I'm having my wedding end of next yr...
I'm keeping a lookout fer photographers even at this point of time.
I dun mind going on purpose to 'bump into gd photographers'
To mi, capturing the essence of my wedding is a commitment to my wedding itself.
And yes, i'm a freelance wedding photographer myself.
Followed a few professionals, from my POV...
They r reallie gd.
They constantly upgrade their photography skills by books, by practice...
So when u made ur statement, i feel sorry fer them.
Maybe u want leave mi ur contact,
i try to arrange a meet up fer u to view their portfolios...
to change ur views on these so called commercial photographers...
Thanks
Excellent suggestion! Then he won't be able to flame professional photographers anymore. Better still get his future wife to come and see the quality of prof photogs work so that when their wedding photos come out, she can mentally do a comparison of what they could have got out of this glorious occasion of theirs and what they will actually get! Then forever she'll remind him of this! For the next 40 -50 years! Ha! I won't want to live with that! Can you imagine the scenario - You so cheap - you dont want to spend money to hire a professional.... now no memories....
Don't mean to flame amateurs but there is a time and place for them but to be the only ones doing an actual day shoot, well.....
Exactly....
What I am not happy with is the sweeping remarks the TS made about professional photographers. He has no idea how many pros there are in this forum. For every remark / statement made, one should be accountable and justify it even if it's a personal thought.
It's fine if you keep your thoughts in your head. But if you post them openly in a thread for all to read, be prepared to stand by your comments and support them or this forum of professional photographers will tear you down bit by bit.
I'm having my wedding end of next yr...
I'm keeping a lookout fer photographers even at this point of time.
I dun mind going on purpose to 'bump into gd photographers'
To mi, capturing the essence of my wedding is a commitment to my wedding itself.
And yes, i'm a freelance wedding photographer myself.
Followed a few professionals, from my POV...
They r reallie gd.
They constantly upgrade their photography skills by books, by practice...
So when u made ur statement, i feel sorry fer them.
Maybe u want leave mi ur contact,
i try to arrange a meet up fer u to view their portfolios...
to change ur views on these so called commercial photographers...
Thanks
Wahh... bro! U also getting married soon!
COngrats!!!
Oops... sorry for the O.T.
Anyway... take it easy guys...
COngrats to those whos getting married soon!
Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm SENG! ;p
blue monster
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Kudos to leejay!
Actually many people are forgetting something: No matter how pro you are, you can only be you can only cover 1 angle at a one time, be it critical or not. Sometimes I feel limits the possibility of getting creative shots which can be spectecular. The effect achieved from a totally different point of view can send couples bursting out in laughter and remembering the moments forever.
Not to say pros are no good, but I fee pros take shots that will covers their asses. Yes, they have captured all the critical moments with perfect technicality and composition to do what's right but after browsing through lots of wedding photos, I personally find them mundane and lacking of originality and maybe what you call the 'fun factor'
Maybe TS just wants to cast a bigger net, increase the probability of getting photos which might appeal to him by using students instead of sticking to one pro with consistent results?
Actually many people are forgetting something: No matter how pro you are, you can only be you can only cover 1 angle at a one time, be it critical or not. Sometimes I feel limits the possibility of getting creative shots which can be spectecular. The effect achieved from a totally different point of view can send couples bursting out in laughter and remembering the moments forever.
Not to say pros are no good, but I fee pros take shots that will covers their asses. Yes, they have captured all the critical moments with perfect technicality and composition to do what's right but after browsing through lots of wedding photos, I personally find them mundane and lacking of originality and maybe what you call the 'fun factor'
Maybe TS just wants to cast a bigger net, increase the probability of getting photos which might appeal to him by using students instead of sticking to one pro with consistent results?
fotoudavid
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To TS,
Show me the names of so call pros that are no good in your standards. If not, show me how many pros u have see b4 right infront of u, and also, how many albums u have see. 100? 200? 300? or 1 thousands wedding u attended, 1000 albums u see b4, 1000 pros u have visited, HOW MANY???
Do u know how many weddings are there in singapore per year?
Pros are sloppy??? How many pros u see b4??? How many commercial studio u visited b4? Have u talk to them?
Or simply put it, tell me the names u think are sloppy, cannot make it pros. Tell me!!!
If cannot, then shut ur mouth, cos u insulted thousands of pros in singapore, cos all are sloppy.
Show me the names of so call pros that are no good in your standards. If not, show me how many pros u have see b4 right infront of u, and also, how many albums u have see. 100? 200? 300? or 1 thousands wedding u attended, 1000 albums u see b4, 1000 pros u have visited, HOW MANY???
Do u know how many weddings are there in singapore per year?
Pros are sloppy??? How many pros u see b4??? How many commercial studio u visited b4? Have u talk to them?
Or simply put it, tell me the names u think are sloppy, cannot make it pros. Tell me!!!
If cannot, then shut ur mouth, cos u insulted thousands of pros in singapore, cos all are sloppy.
fotoudavid
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By the way TS, pls tell us ur wedding date, ur name etc, so that we will not cover ur wedding, shooting u this kind of ppl wedding will sure lose weight, vomit blood.
If u think i make a bad statement cos i dun even know u, dun understands u, dun know ur character, cos u think u are a good person, dun deserve this, then i tell u, u also never know all pros as well.
So if u never eat a good prata, dun ever say singapore cannot produce good prata, cos u never eat b4.
If u think i make a bad statement cos i dun even know u, dun understands u, dun know ur character, cos u think u are a good person, dun deserve this, then i tell u, u also never know all pros as well.
So if u never eat a good prata, dun ever say singapore cannot produce good prata, cos u never eat b4.
William Hung springs to mind here.
fotoudavid
Senior Member
and where is william now???
A bit OT... I'm not siding Pros or freelance photographers.. Juz some frank thots...
Actually I think it's very common these days for couples to engage non-pros to be their main photographer. I've heard a handful doing so. In fact, I have 2 colleagues who have recently done so. One of them even paid only $500 for a 3-day job! I looked at the photos... and know what... I think they are very decently taken. Some are nice too.
At the end of the day, the couples should be satisfied. Some just don't want to invest so much for the actual day shoot.
Well call it the curse (for the pros) or blessing (for everyone into photography) of the digital age. Photography has never been easier. Think 20-30 years back. Beginners will freak out holding an SLR cam. These days, every think is so intelligent -- E-TTL, multi-point, accurate and fast AF, sophisticated metering, etc. Even newbies these days are talking about owning pro level L lenses.
Well it's really up to the couple to choose. Pros are always there to do their job. But they are facing a tougher time indeed and have to be work much harder to prove their worth.
Actually I think it's very common these days for couples to engage non-pros to be their main photographer. I've heard a handful doing so. In fact, I have 2 colleagues who have recently done so. One of them even paid only $500 for a 3-day job! I looked at the photos... and know what... I think they are very decently taken. Some are nice too.
At the end of the day, the couples should be satisfied. Some just don't want to invest so much for the actual day shoot.
Well call it the curse (for the pros) or blessing (for everyone into photography) of the digital age. Photography has never been easier. Think 20-30 years back. Beginners will freak out holding an SLR cam. These days, every think is so intelligent -- E-TTL, multi-point, accurate and fast AF, sophisticated metering, etc. Even newbies these days are talking about owning pro level L lenses.
Well it's really up to the couple to choose. Pros are always there to do their job. But they are facing a tougher time indeed and have to be work much harder to prove their worth.
fotoudavid
Senior Member
who he use is not everyone problems, the concern here is he says pros are sloppy and never work hard on job.
read the posts in this thread...
why do you guys bother with this guy, only two things possible here, he is pulling your leg looking to stir a fight, or he really does not care about how the photos come out. either way, he has nothing to offer. what we need to be doing is looking at ourselves.
regarding giving someone experience, a pro photog can offer another photog an opportunity to tag along, and LEARN instead of EXPERIMENT. In my view, if all you guys doing wedding shoots or event shoots can offer a "junior" a spot to tag along learn, then do it.
when csers do offer gigs at no pay, i see so many of them getting piled on with this same rhetoric. so really, make a choice; invite people and teach them to give them the experience and don't bash guys when they give legit opportunites for experience. i don't agree with what this guy is doing but people cannot have it two ways.
there are heaps of times i get extra passes for photogs at events but i don't post it here and offer it to other csers because there will be someone crying about pay and exploitation even if my only intention would be to get a photog inside the ropes and to get in the mix.
if you cannot give a photog an opportunity to tag along and teach them and give them experience, then don't bash others that are willing to take them along even if it means no pay. granted this guys situation is not ideal but instead of whining about it do something about it and invite other photogs to your shoots when possible. that way guys like this won't have any value to photogs looking for experience. don't get me wrong i agree with the majority here but if it matters to you, then you gotta do more about situations like these instead b*tch about it.
if i said anything harsh i apologize and it's not meant for any one person i felt this had to be said already in the hopes that instead of taking the easy way out and pointing fingers and b*tching at guys like this you should take matters in your own hands and offer something to the forum and to those that want experience.
not picking a fight here just offering a different point of view. i realize not everyone can bring a "junior" along, but those that can should. if none of us do, then in my view none of us should be b*tching.
all the best and you guys have a good day...
why do you guys bother with this guy, only two things possible here, he is pulling your leg looking to stir a fight, or he really does not care about how the photos come out. either way, he has nothing to offer. what we need to be doing is looking at ourselves.
regarding giving someone experience, a pro photog can offer another photog an opportunity to tag along, and LEARN instead of EXPERIMENT. In my view, if all you guys doing wedding shoots or event shoots can offer a "junior" a spot to tag along learn, then do it.
when csers do offer gigs at no pay, i see so many of them getting piled on with this same rhetoric. so really, make a choice; invite people and teach them to give them the experience and don't bash guys when they give legit opportunites for experience. i don't agree with what this guy is doing but people cannot have it two ways.
there are heaps of times i get extra passes for photogs at events but i don't post it here and offer it to other csers because there will be someone crying about pay and exploitation even if my only intention would be to get a photog inside the ropes and to get in the mix.
if you cannot give a photog an opportunity to tag along and teach them and give them experience, then don't bash others that are willing to take them along even if it means no pay. granted this guys situation is not ideal but instead of whining about it do something about it and invite other photogs to your shoots when possible. that way guys like this won't have any value to photogs looking for experience. don't get me wrong i agree with the majority here but if it matters to you, then you gotta do more about situations like these instead b*tch about it.
if i said anything harsh i apologize and it's not meant for any one person i felt this had to be said already in the hopes that instead of taking the easy way out and pointing fingers and b*tching at guys like this you should take matters in your own hands and offer something to the forum and to those that want experience.
not picking a fight here just offering a different point of view. i realize not everyone can bring a "junior" along, but those that can should. if none of us do, then in my view none of us should be b*tching.
all the best and you guys have a good day...
i suppose there's nothing wrong w asking for a free service. it's just that the forum people don't seem to tolerate hypocrites. it might be better to say it outright, rather than saying so much about working pros and then say not much is need from a student photogr, followed by a list of specifications that might work for the job.. bla bla..
it makes a oxymoron. you get the drift?
it's like saying someone saying, 'hey sotong, pls don't call people names..'
:bsmilie:
don't worry man! won't don't need much. use some of your creativity is enough.
but be sure you are good in panning, tilting, master your flash etc.. no need technique one.
just shoot!
even groom not in pic also nevermind, it's creative!
:bsmilie:
apologies if i may sound sarcastic. (another tok cok statement).
but be sure you are good in panning, tilting, master your flash etc.. no need technique one.
just shoot!
even groom not in pic also nevermind, it's creative!
:bsmilie:
apologies if i may sound sarcastic. (another tok cok statement).
XC Pictorial
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Hi i am really keen on this as well...
Quite tired of conventional style of shooting wedding.
Hoping to try some really creative type of shots, i volunteer my own equipment as well (20D + 400f5.6L).
david_goh
New Member
Hi i am really keen on this as well...
Quite tired of conventional style of shooting wedding.
Hoping to try some really creative type of shots, i volunteer my own equipment as well (20D + 400f5.6L).
400mm for the whole wedding??? Talk about creativity.... :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes:
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