Hmm, this sounds like a fantasy dream to me...
Is it true that SLR/DSLR users dun use full auto mode?
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Hmm, this sounds like a fantasy dream to me...
XMM = Xiao Mei Mei, young girl, usually refer to female teenage aspiring models who like to pose for photoshots.
limwhow
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She must have been drunk. Why did you worry? I am sure she was as much a XMM as you were a XDD.
XMM+XDD = good.... photography mah.
By "Auto", I presume it is referring to Full Auto (green rectangle on canon camera).
If you're going to take a portrait and trust the camera to select the correct AF point under full auto, If you're taking sports and trust the camera to select a sufficiently fast shutter speed, if you're taking landscape and trust the camera to select a small aperture, well, to each his own as you said.
If, the photographer has played a part in deciding any of the exposure parameters such as aperture, shutter speed or ISO, or AF point, then it is strictly not Full auto already.
Are you sure you always let the camera take full decision? if not, then it is not considered "auto" in the context of the poll I guess.
The issue here is that the photographer decides on specific parameters such as aperture, and let the camera do the calculations for the correct exposure for the other parameters. In this case, the photographer has played a part in decision making. That is not Full Auto already.
If Av, Tv, and P (where the PG decides whether to use flash) are all considered "Auto", then there is little meaning to the poll already. As the poll reveals, majority don't use "Auto" modes. I believe not all of them calculate and set all the exposure parameters down to all of aperture And Shutter And ISO. These PGs decide on certain parameters and let the camera calculate the rest.
By Auto it should refer to the case where the camera makes full decision, such as whether to flash, and all parameters of the exposure w/o involvement by the PG other then pressing shutter button. And TS did explicitly state "Full Auto" mode.
How many PGs actually trusts the cameras so much?
If you're going to take a portrait and trust the camera to select the correct AF point under full auto, If you're taking sports and trust the camera to select a sufficiently fast shutter speed, if you're taking landscape and trust the camera to select a small aperture, well, to each his own as you said.
If, the photographer has played a part in deciding any of the exposure parameters such as aperture, shutter speed or ISO, or AF point, then it is strictly not Full auto already.
Are you sure you always let the camera take full decision? if not, then it is not considered "auto" in the context of the poll I guess.
The issue here is that the photographer decides on specific parameters such as aperture, and let the camera do the calculations for the correct exposure for the other parameters. In this case, the photographer has played a part in decision making. That is not Full Auto already.
If Av, Tv, and P (where the PG decides whether to use flash) are all considered "Auto", then there is little meaning to the poll already. As the poll reveals, majority don't use "Auto" modes. I believe not all of them calculate and set all the exposure parameters down to all of aperture And Shutter And ISO. These PGs decide on certain parameters and let the camera calculate the rest.
By Auto it should refer to the case where the camera makes full decision, such as whether to flash, and all parameters of the exposure w/o involvement by the PG other then pressing shutter button. And TS did explicitly state "Full Auto" mode.
How many PGs actually trusts the cameras so much?
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Other than being part of "PASM" that camera reviewers mention, I don't know a thing about the Auto mode.
I can't imagine long time photographers ever having used the Auto mode simply because a lot of us didn't have cameras with any kind of automatic exposure, i.e. prior to the Canon AE-1 and Minolta XG-1 of the 1970s.
I'd guess that the only people using full Auto mode are those moving up to dSLRs from compact cameras. A lot of professionals I've seen trust the camera, though, and just aim the camera and hold the shutter release so who knows? :bsmilie:
I can't imagine long time photographers ever having used the Auto mode simply because a lot of us didn't have cameras with any kind of automatic exposure, i.e. prior to the Canon AE-1 and Minolta XG-1 of the 1970s.
I'd guess that the only people using full Auto mode are those moving up to dSLRs from compact cameras. A lot of professionals I've seen trust the camera, though, and just aim the camera and hold the shutter release so who knows? :bsmilie:
Haha when I got my first dslr, i jumped straight to manual.. (not showing off here) because I was so fed up with the auto mode and the preset modes in my PnS. But I do have some problems adjusting the right exposure. Not quite a big problem though.
The modes I would usually use are Manual mode or Auto mode. Auto mode when I am really lazy to adjust the settings, you get what I mean. :bsmilie:
The modes I would usually use are Manual mode or Auto mode. Auto mode when I am really lazy to adjust the settings, you get what I mean. :bsmilie:
allenleonhart
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agreed. in my sch i have retards who go asking me what camera shld i buy. i want a dslr tat is easy to use. and to quote them, "i just need press pictures come out can very nice already"
i'll just roll eye and ask say. u wanna buy cause its cool right? cause i look cool while taking right? (damn bhb)
the purpose of dslr is to give u more control over ur camera and wad u can take right? wads the point of going full auto when u can get a pns to do tat?
and wad else. i got jokesters who go after me telling. hey i put auto mode. dun have zoom button.
i wanna strangle them
note i do not refer to the technology such as metering and auto focus. those 2 are life savers.
wad i meant is like. i need fast shutter speed to freeze moments. but my dslr auto mode isnt tat smart to think tat way.
and hence the usual aperture priority. its like driving a semi auto ats all
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madmartian
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Maybe difficult.. coz the camera may not know what the PG actually wants to achieve.
Fireworks is a typical example as mentioned. Normal setting is medium aperture and long exposure. But the camera may decide on a max aperture and higher shutter speed, and the result may not be what the PG wants.
For portraits, maybe still possible with auto face detection, but it may not work 100% of the times, and what if there is 2 or more person in the frame? how would the camera decide who is the subject?
In the end, the PG still have to provide some input to the camera and let it decide on the rest. But still the decision for the other parameters may not always be the "correct" one.
If the PG wants the 100% of the result the way he desires 100% of the time, then he cannot 100% of the time depend on the camera to make 100% of the decisions. Even more so for artistic PGs.
Fireworks is a typical example as mentioned. Normal setting is medium aperture and long exposure. But the camera may decide on a max aperture and higher shutter speed, and the result may not be what the PG wants.
For portraits, maybe still possible with auto face detection, but it may not work 100% of the times, and what if there is 2 or more person in the frame? how would the camera decide who is the subject?
In the end, the PG still have to provide some input to the camera and let it decide on the rest. But still the decision for the other parameters may not always be the "correct" one.
If the PG wants the 100% of the result the way he desires 100% of the time, then he cannot 100% of the time depend on the camera to make 100% of the decisions. Even more so for artistic PGs.
how to convince u that i do leave it to my cam most of the time?
if u r a canon user,
try this scene.
subject with a strong backlight.
lets see how fast u need to get it right from the moment u decide to shoot.
trust me, my little green window usually beats me.
well, i didn't know the AF point is part of the parameters,
thought this is an exercise on the metering mode.
but i'll hv to say, if the cams i own (40D, 5D & 5DII) has cross type throughout the points,
i'd trust it to the green window all the time.
Burnings
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I think it depends on the situation. If you have all the time in the world then go ahead and fine tune the shot till the cows come home. There are just some situations when the camera is actually faster than your mind in deciding what aperture, shutter speed and iso.
End of the day, it is the picture that counts, not the mode that it is shot in. Besides these are pros that dialed in the various auto mode ya?
End of the day, it is the picture that counts, not the mode that it is shot in. Besides these are pros that dialed in the various auto mode ya?
madmartian
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Manual mode? Think you got to depress the clutch so that you can engage the gears & shift from 1st to 2nd & so forth? hmmmmmmmm...........:think: :dunno: I'm lost
What are we talking about here?Can't help but agree.
CS TAN
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Yeah, me too. I thought Av is audio/visual mode and Tv is television mode... ;pManual mode? Think you got to depress the clutch so that you can engage the gears & shift from 1st to 2nd & so forth? hmmmmmmmm...........:think: :dunno: I'm lost
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