crazypaladin
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Wah... if this is true then this spells more things to look forward to!gooseberry said:
increasing number of people selling off their D70 in less than a few months?
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nightwolf75 said:buying a DSLR doesn't make a person an exception photog overnite. tho i've heard of stories of people buying a DSLR as a P&S cam... sheesshhh... too much $$$ to burn.
You never see anyone bought a 1D Mk II for P&S right ?
Anyway ... what do you use your DSLR for anyway if not P&S?
Because I am not pro .. n not intending to be in near future .. so if not pro .. then ... its for fun and fun == P&S
I always said to myself : "photography is a cheaper hobby than cars" :bsmilie:
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swimcraze said:
It is evident from the questions posed here that many people who have purchased a D70 are not just newbies to SLRs or digital photography. Plenty are total newbies to photography in general.
Singaporeans, you know, are always in for a bargain. Cheap, cheap, must buy. Regardless of whether you use the item or not. The 300D and D70 (in chronological order) made DSLRs truly affordable to the masses. The culture of always wanting the newest, latest, tech stuff (also evident in our constant changing of mobile phones, PDAs and what have you) manifests itself in digital cameras too.
I'd venture to say some who are selling are either fed up by the learning curve - which is honestly not steep if you RTFM - or discovered that they don't play with their new 'toy' since they weren't really interested in photography in the first place.
I don't really buy the 'upgrade' argument. The D70 is terrific for its price. The D100 isn't exactly a step up and the D2H is a big price jump from the D70.
I'm keeping my D70, thank you very much.
Maybe some people have always wanted to pick up photography. It's just that the cost was too prohibitive. Just 2 years ago, a DSLR kit will cost a pretty amount. Now it's cheap and those who couldn't afford it, now can.
I'm sure it makes those snobbish mouldy polyester wearing yesteryear enthusiast uncomfortable. I have heard comments like these. Wah. Cannot even hold a camera, go and buy DLSR ah? Maybe there is a point there. But fact is, most who are intrested can actually afford to arm themselves with a DLSR now and technology has made it really simple to use. It's no longer an exclusive club it used to be.
I'm sure it makes those snobbish mouldy polyester wearing yesteryear enthusiast uncomfortable. I have heard comments like these. Wah. Cannot even hold a camera, go and buy DLSR ah? Maybe there is a point there. But fact is, most who are intrested can actually afford to arm themselves with a DLSR now and technology has made it really simple to use. It's no longer an exclusive club it used to be.
glennyong
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Polyester is can also be known as high impact / shock resistant / high quality plastic. Very resistant so light and medium shocks. However because its light, it makes the user feel like its like a toy...
Asian prefer light,cheap, easy to use camers.
While on the other hand......
Westerners like, love, prefer heavy duty, magnesium alloy, huge, big montrous bodies and lenses.
to them, cost is not important, and we, being asians, want things CHEAP, GOOD....
where can u find such pple ? Singapore lo...... :bsmilie:
then... and the worse part... when pple own SLrs.. it means that we as true photo-enthus are losing our rice bowls very soon...... so what can we do now ?
save up....
and move 2 medium format / FF cameras in the near future.....
we should dis-courage all or anyone with intention of getting D/ Slrs since they are not interested in Photography, so as to maintain the pool of photographers... when there are too many photographers around..... i think it will bring down the image and value of true / master photographers...
So basically i would say.... Newbies... buzz off.. you are not fit for photography.. with no interests.. y border ? rite ? tell them to play their barbie dolls or tell them to be ku-niangs and get a life of their own, rather then to follow the crowd...
when 1 gets a D70.. everyone gets it.... WHY ??
cuz.... we dun want to lose out... thats a very losing attitude....
get what u need.... if u take pictures for fun.. why get D70 when it belonged to a Professional grade camera ???
a normal PnS would get the job done wad.... sometimes.. the way pple hold their D70s/ Slrs really make me puke.. dun even have the caliber to hold camera, and yet want to own one....learning is one thing... but the interests is the most impt thing....
I believe D. photographing has become a fashion and will die off really soon, however if we are the true enthusiates, we will reign the market once again, and we will still win, flush, and disencourage the newbies.....
i dun post my photos ... WHY ? cuz i wanted to protect my copyrights.. and protect my value... its okay to post photos on the net.. but come to think of it... u lose money if u are taking pics for $, cuz pple can dl frm net, and will they buy frm u ? hahaha.... keep the good stuffs to ourselves... and share when the time comes for interaction....
thats my point of view, hope u guys dun mind and understand.. i juz dun like pple who dun like photography and yet buy a DSLR juz for making $ out of it.. while i love photography and need to use it to pay for my equipments and pay for my overseas trip... Nxt stop.. Africa.. muhhahahaa :bsmilie:
Asian prefer light,cheap, easy to use camers.
While on the other hand......
Westerners like, love, prefer heavy duty, magnesium alloy, huge, big montrous bodies and lenses.
to them, cost is not important, and we, being asians, want things CHEAP, GOOD....
where can u find such pple ? Singapore lo...... :bsmilie:
then... and the worse part... when pple own SLrs.. it means that we as true photo-enthus are losing our rice bowls very soon...... so what can we do now ?
save up....
and move 2 medium format / FF cameras in the near future.....
we should dis-courage all or anyone with intention of getting D/ Slrs since they are not interested in Photography, so as to maintain the pool of photographers... when there are too many photographers around..... i think it will bring down the image and value of true / master photographers...
So basically i would say.... Newbies... buzz off.. you are not fit for photography.. with no interests.. y border ? rite ? tell them to play their barbie dolls or tell them to be ku-niangs and get a life of their own, rather then to follow the crowd...
when 1 gets a D70.. everyone gets it.... WHY ??
cuz.... we dun want to lose out... thats a very losing attitude....
get what u need.... if u take pictures for fun.. why get D70 when it belonged to a Professional grade camera ???
a normal PnS would get the job done wad.... sometimes.. the way pple hold their D70s/ Slrs really make me puke.. dun even have the caliber to hold camera, and yet want to own one....learning is one thing... but the interests is the most impt thing....
I believe D. photographing has become a fashion and will die off really soon, however if we are the true enthusiates, we will reign the market once again, and we will still win, flush, and disencourage the newbies.....
i dun post my photos ... WHY ? cuz i wanted to protect my copyrights.. and protect my value... its okay to post photos on the net.. but come to think of it... u lose money if u are taking pics for $, cuz pple can dl frm net, and will they buy frm u ? hahaha.... keep the good stuffs to ourselves... and share when the time comes for interaction....
thats my point of view, hope u guys dun mind and understand.. i juz dun like pple who dun like photography and yet buy a DSLR juz for making $ out of it.. while i love photography and need to use it to pay for my equipments and pay for my overseas trip... Nxt stop.. Africa.. muhhahahaa :bsmilie:
I find your reply to be elitist and totally out of line.. so what if a beginner who doesn't know how to hold a DSLR buys one? He can afford it and ultimately, its HIS money and his decision..
I feel that if you feel threatened by a newbie who "dun even have the caliber to hold camera" stealing your rice bowl, then you'd better re-evaluate your photos.. maybe they're not good enough to compete? :dunno:
GYR
I feel that if you feel threatened by a newbie who "dun even have the caliber to hold camera" stealing your rice bowl, then you'd better re-evaluate your photos.. maybe they're not good enough to compete? :dunno:
GYR
glennyong said:
gooseberry
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Gymrat76 said:
Well said...
Wah very cheem leh. Sometimes people say D70 is a toy now it is pro grade !!. Newbies now also cannot buy DSLR only can use P&S. :dunno:
Mmmm I proposed that all photographer like driving a car get a licence to be a photographer and to purchase a DSLR you will require a licence to buy. All newbies better get your licence to shoot OK. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
Mmmm I proposed that all photographer like driving a car get a licence to be a photographer and to purchase a DSLR you will require a licence to buy. All newbies better get your licence to shoot OK. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
glennyong said:
*beep* It's spelt calibre.
I don't know what's wrong with holding a DSLR be it for people who aren't into photography or not. What's your definition of a photographer then?
Must be one that's a professional and can hold the camera properly and shoot pictures to earn money?
Photography represents two parts of a human life involvement, one's a work/job, the other's a hobby. You seem to have made photography holy and so awesome that none other should dabble in it.
I hope you do take as good pictures as you claim that it's your ricebowl. From what I've seen around, not many professionals take as good pictures as their job depicts them to, I've seen pros who shoots just for shooting, and when I make a comment, they get pissed and threatened my ass to stay out of Peninsula area. *sheesh*. And not to mention, some doesn't even know what f/2.8 is from f/4~f/5.6. Amazing, and they say they earn from photography and protect their copyrights by not posting their images. IMAGINE that!
Do teach me how to become a pro without first becoming a newbie, what does it take? 10 yrs of watching and learning and/or reading books available in the library? Please master, teach me.
Sheesh. I should start selling my stuffs then.
I don't make money out of it, and the way I hold it is terrible. Anybody wants a 17-35 f/2.8 for keeps? :devil:
I don't know what's wrong with holding a DSLR be it for people who aren't into photography or not. What's your definition of a photographer then?
Must be one that's a professional and can hold the camera properly and shoot pictures to earn money?
Photography represents two parts of a human life involvement, one's a work/job, the other's a hobby. You seem to have made photography holy and so awesome that none other should dabble in it.
I hope you do take as good pictures as you claim that it's your ricebowl. From what I've seen around, not many professionals take as good pictures as their job depicts them to, I've seen pros who shoots just for shooting, and when I make a comment, they get pissed and threatened my ass to stay out of Peninsula area. *sheesh*. And not to mention, some doesn't even know what f/2.8 is from f/4~f/5.6. Amazing, and they say they earn from photography and protect their copyrights by not posting their images. IMAGINE that!
Do teach me how to become a pro without first becoming a newbie, what does it take? 10 yrs of watching and learning and/or reading books available in the library? Please master, teach me.
Sheesh. I should start selling my stuffs then.
I don't make money out of it, and the way I hold it is terrible. Anybody wants a 17-35 f/2.8 for keeps? :devil:Yep you better sell got no licence right, cannot hold DSLR right always use tripot right. take it from you tonight.
espn said:*beep* It's spelt calibre.
I don't know what's wrong with holding a DSLR be it for people who aren't into photography or not. What's your definition of a photographer then?
Must be one that's a professional and can hold the camera properly and shoot pictures to earn money?
Photography represents two parts of a human life involvement, one's a work/job, the other's a hobby. You seem to have made photography holy and so awesome that none other should dabble in it.
I hope you do take as good pictures as you claim that it's your ricebowl. From what I've seen around, not many professionals take as good pictures as their job depicts them to, I've seen pros who shoots just for shooting, and when I make a comment, they get pissed and threatened my ass to stay out of Peninsula area. *sheesh*.
Do teach me how to become a pro without first becoming a newbie, what does it take? 10 yrs of watching and learning and/or reading books available in the library? Please master, teach me.
Sheesh. I should start selling my stuffs then.
espn said:Sheesh. I should start selling my stuffs then.
I'll take it off your unworthy hands.. and I'll even help you out for free, no need to thank me :bsmilie:
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