In view of today's announcement and in retrospect...

[Quest]

Since the Nikon marketing material said that D3 model aim for News and sports photographers , i think they gonna come out with the non-pro model ( equal to canon 5d ) like d3x, d3h or something like that . I hope so.

u can expect d3x (16MP?) and d3h (15fps?) by end 2008. 1 yr to release an upgrade will be reasonable as d40 upgraded to d40x took only a few mths.

 

[Ansel]

Forex and equity markets move faster... make some money and the D3 could be yours free

Ah....but the market can go the other way, and what happens then, not only you got no D3, may even lose your pants :nono:

 

[Ansel]

another thing i find an issue.. for a while nikon tells customers the DX format is fine. It is good, DX lens can be made cheap and light etc etc.. basically pacifying customers' demands for FF, next moment they come out with D3, and i am sure they will market FF "benefits".. Of cos, its all marketing. But i still dont like the change in tone..

I dont own many DX lens, mainly only the 18-200 and 18-70, but i wonder how those who started on nikon only few years back and have dump alot into DX lens..

Next i wonder how much is 2nd hand nikon 12-24 and 17-55 going to drop to..

Boy am i glad i held on to my FF sigma 12-24, nikon 17-35 and 28-70 :bsmilie:

If these DX lenses drop price on the 2nd market, I'll tell people quick grab them!

I think D3 launch will not affect my satisfaction with DX format lenses. I've got both 12-24 and 17-55. These lenses are not only usable, they are spectacular. If I do get a D3 FF, that's a big IF, I am rest assured that my investments are still recognised and respected by the new body, unlike the other camp where I can't even mount a EF-S lens on the top pro body.

As far as Nikon is concerned, they are responding to market demand for FF, but DX is still alive and kicking with the D300 as proof.

 

[AJ23]

After so many posts, one very important question is being left out.......

WHO WILL BUY THE NEW SPANKING D3??? :devil: :devil: :devil:

 

[King Tiger]

After so many posts, one very important question is being left out.......

WHO WILL BUY THE NEW SPANKING D3??? :devil: :devil: :devil:

Me :embrass:

 

[RossChang]

After so many posts, one very important question is being left out.......

WHO WILL BUY THE NEW SPANKING D3??? :devil: :devil: :devil:

Me... if STI hit 4200 points... to h.e.l.l. with subprime... :bsmilie:

 

[bigfoot888]

and now the BBB virus starts crawling....:devil:

 

[lsisaxon]

Since the Nikon marketing material said that D3 model aim for News and sports photographers , i think they gonna come out with the non-pro model ( equal to canon 5d ) like d3x, d3h or something like that . I hope so.

Probably a D300X for semi-pro FX. D3X is still going to be a pro body.

 

[vortex]

Me... if STI hit 4200 points... to h.e.l.l. with subprime... :bsmilie:

if that happens..i buy 2 x D3...one i mod into IR :bsmilie:

 

[sammedia]

Wait for D3X? ;p

Nope..wait for a D3Xs. :bsmilie:

Too bad the D300 is not a cheaper FF in the answer for the Canon 5D.

If the D300 is a FF which cost around 3.8K, it will be the best news for all Nikon user.

 

[nikkie]

Let fujifilm fight 5D. maybe nikon reserved the slot for fuji? just wild guess. partners in crime has to have its privileges right?
Clearly Fujifilm can also do a 12mp fullframe SuperCCD. like 'S6fx'? hehehhe.

 

[sammedia]

I personally felt the FF announcement was a fast response to

for the price tag of D3.. i would go for the other camp.

Basically nikon need to have a range like canon.

PS: I used nikon from many years back, I have dump in alot more into my nikon system than canon. I am definitely not biased.

For the price of maybe 1-1.5K more than a 1D MIII, you get a FF & almost the same FPS speed.Still can use back all your DX lens with 1.5x crop factor which is a plus for sport & action photography.Still not good enough?:dunno:

It will be unfair to compare D3 with a 1Ds. Frankly speaking, how many can affort a 1Ds at more than $10k? The new D3 from Nikon is to answer to the new 1D MIII, not to the 1Ds. If you really into photgraphy which require very high MP, i think you will go for a MF with a digital back instead. What for spend 10k over when it is still a 35mm format base?FYI, Most pro who are into products, fashion eg. which require very high MP count are using MF with digital backs, not a 1Ds. Frankly speaking, the 1DS for us is overkill, as for those pro who really need high MP count,it is still not up the standard.

As for the answer to the Canon 5D, yes, I agree Nikon have no answer for the time being. the D300 is still not the amswer to 5D, more likely to aim at the canon 40D. If it is a FF which cost around 3k, it could be the best deal. But if you compare it to the new Canon 40D, it really trash & kick the butts of it. :bsmilie:

Still up to you whether to switch camp, both have pro & con. If you look at the other side, some canon users also have complains on their system & which wanted to switch side also.:bsmilie:

It is a never ending wars with both system. Who know, canon will be coming out a new 1Ds MIII which cost less then 8k or same price with the D3.:bsmilie:

 

[TMC]

For the price of maybe 1-1.5K more than a 1D MIII, you get a FF & almost the same FPS speed.Still can use back all your DX lens with 1.5x crop factor which is a plus for sport & action photography.Still not good enough?:dunno:

It will be unfair to compare D3 with a 1Ds. Frankly speaking, how many can affort a 1Ds at more than $10k? The new D3 from Nikon is to answer to the new 1D MIII, not to the 1Ds. If you really into photgraphy which require very high MP, i think you will go for a MF with a digital back instead. What for spend 10k over when it is still a 35mm format base?FYI, Most pro who are into products, fashion eg. which require very high MP count are using MF with digital backs, not a 1Ds. Frankly speaking, the 1DS for us is overkill, as for those pro who really need high MP count,it is still not up the standard.

As for the answer to the Canon 5D, yes, I agree Nikon have no answer for the time being. the D300 is still not the amswer to 5D, more likely to aim at the canon 40D. If it is a FF which cost around 3k, it could be the best deal. But if you compare it to the new Canon 40D, it really trash & kick the butts of it. :bsmilie:

Still up to you whether to switch camp, both have pro & con. If you look at the other side, some canon users also have complains on their system & which wanted to switch side also.:bsmilie:

It is a never ending wars with both system. Who know, canon will be coming out a new 1Ds MIII which cost less then 8k or same price with the D3.:bsmilie:

nah. 1DsM3 is not really an option for most people. That one is meant to compete against the MF. 1DM3 and the current 5D would be the D3`s counterpart. Just 1 good camera and you get the best of both worlds. What is it in Nikon`s range that doesnt match up to Canon`s?

 

[XC Pictorial]

Frankly speaking, how many can affort a 1Ds at more than $10k? The new D3 from Nikon is to answer to the new 1D MIII, not to the 1Ds.

If you really into photgraphy which require very high MP, i think you will go for a MF with a digital back instead. What for spend 10k over when it is still a 35mm format base?FYI, Most pro who are into products, fashion eg. which require very high MP count are using MF with digital backs, not a 1Ds. Frankly speaking, the 1DS for us is overkill, as for those pro who really need high MP count,it is still not up the standard.

As for the answer to the Canon 5D, yes, I agree Nikon have no answer for the time being. the D300 is still not the amswer to 5D, more likely to aim at the canon 40D. If it is a FF which cost around 3k, it could be the best deal. But if you compare it to the new Canon 40D, it really trash & kick the butts of it. :bsmilie:

Still up to you whether to switch camp, both have pro & con. If you look at the other side, some canon users also have complains on their system & which wanted to switch side also.:bsmilie:

For someone putting in 7.5K into D3, what is another few more for almost 2X the resolution for the best in the market? Price is not the main issue, value for money is. Show me that its worth it, and i will pay. Basically if D3 gives at least 16-18MP i will pay for it. However now we are looking only into same MP as 5D, at double the price. For most people here, i believe they have already dump in at least near 10K..

I will no issues with D300, looking forward to see its improvements over D200, which i already have but came with some disturbing issues (low batt life, some errors, rubber grip peeling etc), otherwise ok.

People who use SLRs, have their reasons to do so. Read up more up to date magazines and interviews you will know. Eg. people who do big time publications, covering very lucrative action sports, money is not issue at all. And just because i use SLR, doesnt mean i dont need or want high resolution. Of cos, shooting ADs like you do, a 6MP will more than suffice since usual prints are 4-6R, but there are applications that does.

Lastly, I am already using both systems, and others too.

 

[IForYou]

For someone putting in 7.5K into D3, what is another few more for almost 2X the resolution for the best in the market? Price is not the main issue, value for money is. Show me that its worth it, and i will pay. Basically if D3 gives at least 16-18MP i will pay for it. However now we are looking only into same MP as 5D, at double the price. For most people here, i believe they have already dump in at least near 10K..

I will no issues with D300, looking forward to see its improvements over D200, which i already have but came with some disturbing issues (low batt life, some errors, rubber grip peeling etc), otherwise ok.

People who use SLRs, have their reasons to do so. Read up more up to date magazines and interviews you will know. Eg. people who do big time publications, covering very lucrative action sports, money is not issue at all. And just because i use SLR, doesnt mean i dont need or want high resolution. Of cos, shooting ADs like you do, a 6MP will more than suffice since usual prints are 4-6R, but there are applications that does.

Lastly, I am already using both systems, and others too.

Actually,
I believe there's a reason why Nikon kept the megapixels at 12.
If not for doing that, they might not have managed to get the ISO boosted to 25600.

 

[ultrazoom]

i'll go and buy another big sweep ticket and pray

I'll buy 10 more, but I don't pray.

 

[Scaglietti]

For someone putting in 7.5K into D3, what is another few more for almost 2X the resolution for the best in the market? Price is not the main issue, value for money is. Show me that its worth it, and i will pay. Basically if D3 gives at least 16-18MP i will pay for it. However now we are looking only into same MP as 5D, at double the price. For most people here, i believe they have already dump in at least near 10K..

I will no issues with D300, looking forward to see its improvements over D200, which i already have but came with some disturbing issues (low batt life, some errors, rubber grip peeling etc), otherwise ok.

People who use SLRs, have their reasons to do so. Read up more up to date magazines and interviews you will know. Eg. people who do big time publications, covering very lucrative action sports, money is not issue at all. And just because i use SLR, doesnt mean i dont need or want high resolution. Of cos, shooting ADs like you do, a 6MP will more than suffice since usual prints are 4-6R, but there are applications that does.

Lastly, I am already using both systems, and others too.

You are comparing the wrong things. 5D and D3 are totally different animals. D3, with the AF system and fps, are more geared towards fast action photography. This is the domain of Canon's 1Dmk3. Both are priced at US$4999. With 12MP, 9fps, FX format, D3 has outcompete the 1Dmk3.

The 1Dsmk3 is in a totally different league way up there. No reply from Nikon yet. Rumour has it that a high MP FX DSLR is due mid 2008. Let's wait and see.

In the 5D arena, there is no contender from Nikon yet, no reliable rumour on that yet.

D300 has set new standards for the semi-pro bodies. 40D is nowhere near.

With D80 still holding ground in the lower end market, I think things looks bright:think: on the dark side...

BC

 

[yyD70S]

Who says we can only bet one way???

Anyway, I'm waiting for the 2nd coming of Nikon FX... something line the Dxxx series but FX. It should be more affordable.

Ah....but the market can go the other way, and what happens then, not only you got no D3, may even lose your pants :nono:

 

[lsisaxon]

For someone putting in 7.5K into D3, what is another few more for almost 2X the resolution for the best in the market? Price is not the main issue, value for money is. Show me that its worth it, and i will pay. Basically if D3 gives at least 16-18MP i will pay for it. However now we are looking only into same MP as 5D, at double the price. For most people here, i believe they have already dump in at least near 10K..

I will no issues with D300, looking forward to see its improvements over D200, which i already have but came with some disturbing issues (low batt life, some errors, rubber grip peeling etc), otherwise ok.

People who use SLRs, have their reasons to do so. Read up more up to date magazines and interviews you will know. Eg. people who do big time publications, covering very lucrative action sports, money is not issue at all. And just because i use SLR, doesnt mean i dont need or want high resolution. Of cos, shooting ADs like you do, a 6MP will more than suffice since usual prints are 4-6R, but there are applications that does.

Lastly, I am already using both systems, and others too.

D3X would be the camera for you. D3 is like D2H, it with a reduced resolution for high speed, but it probably did not earn the H this time because the resolution is more than sufficient for the media that the output is going to. D1H and D2H really sacrificed the resolution for speed. D3 didn't.

If the noise of D300 is good at ISO3200, it will not be long to see a 20+MP count D3X with at least 8-10MP at DX crop mode. At the same pixel density of a 12MP DX sensor, a FF sensor would give 27MP.

D3 is just getting ready for Olympics next year, just as D2H was 4 years ago.

 

[lsisaxon]

Nope..wait for a D3Xs. :bsmilie:

Too bad the D300 is not a cheaper FF in the answer for the Canon 5D.

If the D300 is a FF which cost around 3.8K, it will be the best news for all Nikon user.

D300X?.. probably also a 12MP FF using the D3 sensor but slower. They cannot release that now or the D3 won't sell.. ;p I believe Nikon has something up their sleeve.. Nikon may be behind in terms of releasing product but so far their products works very well from the beginning.