porshee said:leicas are so hard to use compared to cams nowadays...have to select shutter, aperture, focus and create composition all at once when only the creating composition thing is done in other cams.. This is really what muti tasking is about..oh..and getting right exposure and focus quickly is so difficult.. try shoot with slides!! i did and i almost cried...
foxtwo said:What are you talking about?! I think your complaint only matters if one is shooting in P mode right? If your (nowadays) camera can toggle to M mode, you'll still have to dial in the settings yourself... geez.
If you're not familiar with handling a fully manual camera, you definitely shouldn't be trying to shoot slides with it too. Don't blame the equipment when it's your skill which is lacking. :nono:
XXX Boy said:I totally agree with you. The problems with many 'auto' photographers nowadays are relying too much on camera's technology that they had lost the instict of judging exposure, focus manually. And the worse part is that they blame the camera for their own lousy skills. That is the sad part of it.
canturn said:2. Most of the time, my focus is at infinity and at iso 1000 and f16, well, u basically just go in and shoot. Much faster and unobstrusive, frankly.
XXX Boy said:The technics of this kind of 'snap-shot' photography is not simpily focus at infinity with a iso1000 film and aperture set at f11. You are missing the whole point of it!
I would suggest that you can put in more creativity by selecting different aperture (wide-open for creating background blur so as to isolate the main subject and the background or f11 for utimate plane to plane sharpness).
Try to learn the technics of pre-focus and I'm sure to tell you that chances that you will reinvent your syle of photography.
canturn said:Little bit OT here.
Have long memorised the range / threshold of the various f-stops for all my lenses, setting to infinity is just ONE of the many technics of using RFs. Don't need you to teach me that, but thanks for the suggestion![]()
Those of us who bought a leica would jolly well know the advantage of it for available light photography as well as it's performance at wide open. My lenses are f1 - f2, no smaller. You think I would buy a leica optics to use @ f11? :bsmilie:
Pre-focusing technic can be done on any RF or cam, even my 1972 Konica can do that. So what's the catch? Buying it as a trophy? Sorry man, my leica is protected with black tape, so much so that no one would know what I'm using, even the front cap :devil:
Frankly, two main reasons why I still hold on to the M system even though digital seems to dominate now.
1. B&W. Tonality and the 3-D details that Leica can render is amazing.
2. Slides.
LimCB said:What's so great about knowing what aperture/speed to select and how to manual focus? Like these values will show up on your pictures? What's so great about manual cameras over auto ones? Like you can tell the difference which camera was used when shown a picture?
It's really the picture that counts. ALl these camera bashing are really for people who can't shoot.
XXX Boy said:It is much better to know your 'stuff' rather than letting the camera automation take all over.
A good photographer control the camera and not overwise.
For people like you, maybe the camera manufacturer can manufacture a camera that will automatic hunt for angle when mounted on the tripod and will take pics by itself. Haha...isn't it dumb?
I think you are really kind of person that your nick 'limcb' suggest! Get it?
LimCB said:A good photographer is one who can shoot, manual or auto. A bad photographer is one who thinks arguing over which mode is superior will make them a good photographer, i.e people like yourself. Yes it's dumb, but true.
PS: Moderators, are making fun of people's name allowed here as the above quoted poster in my thread so balatantly announced? Have the rules changed?