High ISO Noise: Questions & Observations

[tarandip]

All of you talk a lot , why not tell us what equipment you use , and which professional photographer uses iphone for his gigs? Why even bother with dslrs then. Sheesh.

If someone wants to gets any new gear for their photography , thats their business innit? Nobody is claiming their photos are better than yours. As for me i've already said my photos are for myself, and i have a idea of what are good photos to me , so obviously i will work towards that objective , not what your preconceived ideas are. Photography is about being happy about the images you capture, no about how low fi they are. And if quality images make u happier than noisy images , why not?

I'm a pixel peeper and proud to be one.

 

[sfoto100]

All of you talk a lot , why not tell us what equipment you use , and which professional photographer uses iphone for his gigs? Why even bother with dslrs then. Sheesh.

If someone wants to gets any new gear for their photography , thats their business innit? Nobody is claiming their photos are better than yours. As for me i've already said my photos are for myself, and i have a idea of what are good photos to me , so obviously i will work towards that objective , not what your preconceived ideas are. Photography is about being happy about the images you capture, no about how low fi they are. And if quality images make u happier than noisy images , why not?

I'm a pixel peeper and proud to be one.

true lah... u r not wrong to be a pixel peeper... that's your right what..

but if u wan to buy a900, then better wait longer, cos it is discontinued , a more exciting one coming... haha

 

[tarandip]

true lah... u r not wrong to be a pixel peeper... that's your right what..

but if u wan to buy a900, then better wait longer, cos it is discontinued , a more exciting one coming... haha

I've had the a900 for more than a yr now actually. And it's not discontinued actually.

 

[sfoto100]

I've had the a900 for more than a yr now actually. And it's not discontinued actually.

good to know that. congrats...

it's a good camera

 

[Aimevous]

Ha im surprised so many of you have the patience to explain so politely to someone who appears to be quite rude and stubborn.

If I were you guys, I would have moved on and let him/her be if he/she doesn't heed the valuable experience and expertise shared by the real veterans.

But truth be spoken, I've picked up quite a bit of knowledge just by reading these few pages of exchanges :thumbsup:

And I agree with the majority here, that its not the gears that make the photographer.

Enjoy photography!

 

[YuccaTheFlower]

Since high ISO cannot use, get a GTIZO
:thumbsup:

 

[boombox]

A7xx has been shown at PMA, but Sony seems rather quiet about its actual spec. Not sure what is going on. Rumours say, it has something to do with the video capability.

All these rumour should just treat as rumours la. Don't get too over excited about it.

I think Sony's been hard at work getting the main sensor LV AF to work at least - for the AVCHD video functions - to work properly. They have been successful with the NEX-5, but it's harder to implement it with the Mirror in the way.

I'm quite sure that you've heard and seen rumors of the pellicle mirror, the patent of the phase detector embedded sensor etc... Both are possible solutions... though on top of that they need to work on a more silent AF mechanism/motor, as well as the stepless control of the aperture during the filming of video. The NEX-5 for example, uses stepper motors for the aperture control and it's embedded inside the lens.

And the E-mount itself has a 10-contacts instead of the usual 8 for the a-mount. The NEX5 is already dropping some hints as to how the video-enabled DSLR is being implemented.

All in all, I think the wait is worth it. For budget and indie film makers who can't have a big crew and cheap equipment but want to have better filming ergonomics, but still want a 35mm format look without a DOF adaptor. I think Sony should get it right with the AVCHD enabled DSLR of the next generation.

 

[boombox]

Equipment helps people create works - but, IMHO, not as critical as the creative vision and the photographic eye.

 

[night86mare]

All of you talk a lot , why not tell us what equipment you use , and which professional photographer uses iphone for his gigs? Why even bother with dslrs then. Sheesh.

because no uwa for compacts lor....

shot with compact prosumer

 

[night86mare]

All of you talk a lot , why not tell us what equipment you use , and which professional photographer uses iphone for his gigs? Why even bother with dslrs then. Sheesh.

If someone wants to gets any new gear for their photography , thats their business innit? Nobody is claiming their photos are better than yours. As for me i've already said my photos are for myself, and i have a idea of what are good photos to me , so obviously i will work towards that objective , not what your preconceived ideas are. Photography is about being happy about the images you capture, no about how low fi they are. And if quality images make u happier than noisy images , why not?

I'm a pixel peeper and proud to be one.

true lah... u r not wrong to be a pixel peeper... that's your right what..

but if u wan to buy a900, then better wait longer, cos it is discontinued , a more exciting one coming... haha

good for you. i prefer to be a picture peeper, because that is what counts in photography, not pixels. :thumbsup:

bet you 98% of pixel peepers will not produce good pictures, because they are missing the big picture for the pixel. :sweatsm::sweatsm:

then they will console themselves that they are working towards their own goal of good photography. seen before, the photos like worse than out of my hello kitty p&s camera.

 

[bruce lee]

Thats interesting , i think you're the first person i've heard that says that. Gear is indeed very important , otherwise i would be satisfied with just framing with my fingers and saying that s a nice shot. I think you have to reconsider your position, can you function without gear? If you know how to use your gear properly , it can only aid in capturing better pictures.

Yes, gear is extremely important. Buy yourself the best gear in the world that you can afford. You are a professional shooter and you should use the best gear in the world that produces no noise.

 

[Agetan]

U have some seriously funny things about photography...

Hart

 

[night86mare]

Yes, gear is extremely important. Buy yourself the best gear in the world that you can afford. You are a professional shooter and you should use the best gear in the world that produces no noise.

for all that tarandip has spewed, about knowing how to use gear... up to now, based on the nonsense she has spouted.. i don't think she knows how to use gear.. so have to rely on equipment as crutch to make herself feel better. :lovegrin::lovegrin:

 

[riotvan]

she obviously doesn't get it, and never will

 

[night86mare]

she obviously doesn't get it, and never will

no no, 90% of the world doesn't get it , and never will.

gearwhores of the world unite! :heart: group hug! remember to put your expensive cameras on! :bsmilie:

 

[Agetan]

Guys... i don't think flaming is necessary....

Everyone is entitle to voice out and it is really up to them.

Hart

 

[Aimevous]

This forum needs a "Like" button.

 

[night86mare]

Guys... i don't think flaming is necessary....

Everyone is entitle to voice out and it is really up to them.

Hart

also voicing out mar... :bsmilie:

 

[tarandip]

good for you. i prefer to be a picture peeper, because that is what counts in photography, not pixels. :thumbsup:

bet you 98% of pixel peepers will not produce good pictures, because they are missing the big picture for the pixel. :sweatsm::sweatsm:

then they will console themselves that they are working towards their own goal of good photography. seen before, the photos like worse than out of my hello kitty p&s camera.

At the end of the day , it's whether you're satisfied or not. Like i said i'm the opposite , pictures people like you find great sometimes to me are just bad , noisy. So it's in the eye of beholder. The same goes for art. No to need throw the last part about consoling myself, because the same could be said for picture peepers.

The bottom line is what is a good picture , is it a good picture because you say so? Or someone else says so? Perhaps if you made money off photography that could well be the case. But for people like me, photography is whatever i make of it.

I dunno why but i cannot stand it when i look at 100% crops of pictures , and they're blotchy or smeared. Thats just how i am , i need my detail to be there even though most likely i will never need it. Given a choice between capturing someone or something with a iphone and a a900 , i would choose the a900 anytime as i want to capture as much detail as possible. For me i capture memories and events , not pieces of art. To me photography is not so much art as a visual recollection of people , events , places.

I'm glad i had a olympus e10 back in 2000 , as i captured some important moments back then. At 4mpx they still look good. At the moment , the a900/a850 is simply best value for money for pixel peepers.

 

[night86mare]

At the end of the day , it's whether you're satisfied or not. Like i said i'm the opposite , pictures people like you find great sometimes to me are just bad , noisy. So it's in the eye of beholder. The same goes for art. No to need throw the last part about consoling myself, because the same could be said for picture peepers.

good for you, whatever floats your boat. thankfully i have a mind, so i'm entitled to think and voice out what i feel about your statements.

what's so hard about buying an expensive dslr? picture peepers don't really need to be consoled.. a camera is a relatively small ticket item. believe me, most people on clubsnap could probably get the top of the crop cameras and lenses - at most just BBB with credit card and PPP (pay pay pay) later.. not as if it's a huge house, or a ferrari, which would be a different story. 10K, 20K is nothing in the world of consumerism today. so the pixel peepers who think that the picture peepers need consolation are just fooling themselves. you can't pay any amount of money to take a great picture. but you can always throw money into high end cameras, get cleaner images, and pat yourself on the back with the lack of noise. :bsmilie:

why stop yourself at full frame cameras? get a hassleblad. you can pixel peep the 39 megapixel image and jizz in your pants more frequently. :bsmilie:

i guess to some, photography is more of a camera-totting, magnifying glass wielding deal than actually taking good pictures. but as you say, eye of the beholder, eh? messy, cluttered and noise-free photos, every pixel peeper's favourite, can examine the detail closely. :bsmilie: